BBK cold air induction

fastang · 03-05-2001, 02:42 PM

I have a K&N drop in filter, a TB and a MAF. Will the cold air induction realy make a difference? I was considering buying one from summit for $169.00 Anyone know dyno numbers? Will I realy get the ten-15 hp. I seriously doubt it but I would realy appreciate some input....thanks

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

rtz · 03-05-2001, 02:47 PM

I'd like to get this for my car, but I don't want to shell out ~$90 for it. :/

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?catcode=34002

It'd sure beat having that stock air box though.

fastang · 03-05-2001, 03:36 PM

I believe that setup is for a fox, I have an SN95 5.0 Still I have heard that they are actualy worse than the stock setup because they suck up heat from the motor (which kinda eliminates the "cold" in "cold air induction" Im thinking about saving the cash for a GT40 intake but if this will really help then Im gonna buy it too.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

dinomite · 03-05-2001, 03:42 PM

You can expect 15 horsepower if you had a small child or kitten stuck in your airbox.......but other wise, no. Over stock you get about 5-7, almost in the range as the infamous pullies that everyone loves. Get a k&n cone, and then rip out your airbox. Look at how stuff needs to be routed, then go to Home Depot and look at all the lovely PVC piping in the plumbing department. If you don't like the white look, you can get ABS piping thats next to all the PVC stuff, simmilar, just black the ABS is. If you have an unnatural fascination with PVC piping, like myself, you will eventually understand its powers and make new things: http://www.goldmann.com/spudgun.html

CJ's94GT · 03-05-2001, 05:50 PM

I thought it was a good idea too. I got tired of waiting on BBK so I got the MAC one. After I lost my THIRD $40 K&N filter doing 70mph on the freeway I decided it wasn't worth 10 hp and ripped it off.

When it was on, I "thought" it felt more powerfull. Sounded great, though. Really heard the air getting sucked into the motor.

Besides, one of my sillycone hoses that connects the tube to the TB got ripped and I can't find a replacement anywhere.

Has BBK actually started making these things yet? I waited a year and a half and, last I heard, they still didn't have any production pieces yet.

fastang · 03-05-2001, 05:56 PM

yeah, check the summit catalog. It looks totaly sweet. If its worth it Im gonna pick it up.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

Mr 5 0 · 03-05-2001, 07:51 PM

I've had the Moroso 'cheapie' model cold-air induction kit since '99 and I love it.
Easy install and no problems. They give you about 3-4 HP (maximum) over a K&N in a stock airbox. The '15 HP gain' is more like 10, at best, and only if you had a stock filter in a stock housing and the silencer still in place.

My recommendation is that this is a nice mod if you have (and intend to keep) stock heads and cam and are trying to squeeze every available HP out of a basically stock 5.0.
That would be me.
If you have or intend to get heads, etc then the few HP a cold-air induction kit gives you is not going to be noticed and isn't really worth the money, in my opinion.
They do clean up the engine bay and if that's important to you, than you may want to invest in a kit. I suggest the Moroso for price and because of my good personal experience with it, but it's not a 'looker'.
Finally; they do sound great at WOT!

fastang:

FYI: The cold-air induction kits place the filter in the inner wheelwell (away from the road) and do suck up cooler 'outside' air.
The older K&N kits that placed the oversized fiter in the engine compartment were not a great mod and not the same as the newer, cold-air induction kits.

[This message has been edited by Mr 5 0 (edited 03-05-2001).]

fastang · 03-05-2001, 08:18 PM

Mr.5.0 I have seen these advertized on fox bodies before where the filter was in the wheelwell but not for my SN95. Does Moroso make one for my car? All the setups I see for my car keep the filter in the engine bay with a metal plate behind it to block heat.
My friend of mine ran over a mud puddle in his integra and his fender mount cold air induction sucked up water and hydrolocked a piston. Have you ever heard of this happening to a stang? Thanks for your advice, you have been quit helpful so far

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

03-05-2001, 09:45 PM

Why don't you just make one like I did. I had a picture of it posted in the lounge a couple weeks back. Its the same thing..

chris91LX · 03-05-2001, 09:54 PM

The BBK kit is a piece of S...!! I ordered it and it didn't fit right. For $160 I expected it to at least fit, but the angles were all a little off and the whole thing felt like it would pop off the second I opened up the throttle. I sent it back to Summit and bought the Mac kit from GTR for $30 less and it fit very well. I didn't notice a huge increase in hp or anything but it sure looks cool. The Mac kit also doesn't have a big plaque on it advertising their name like the BBK one does. I haven't had any problems with it, but my pony has been in storage for the winter. I took it out for the first time on Saturday and it rocked! My $.02 is to stay away from the BBK if your gonna go for it. It's mostly for looks as far as I'm concerned, I'm not expecting a huge hp increase.

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91 LX 5.0
Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

rtz · 03-05-2001, 11:05 PM

MAC 94-95 Mustang Cold Air induction: $140.00

http://www.jdsperformance.com/index....id=94&fcmd=cat

fastang · 03-06-2001, 09:37 AM

Sweet. Thanks guys Ill get the Mac.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

88COBRA · 03-06-2001, 09:49 AM

I sell the MAC cold air inatkes, much cheaper then anyone else.

Check out my site, under the Stang Shop!

Ian

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Ian Sim
webmaster@stangpower.com
STORED: 1988 Mustang GT "Canadian Cobra", stock, AOD, loaded
LOTS OF PRODUCTS, AWESOME PRICES! Visit my site:
http://www.stangpower.com

2FastLX · 03-06-2001, 09:56 AM

I've heard a lot of people say the BBK units are crap. Do yourself a favor and get the MAC unit if you are going to get one. And get a fenderwell one while you are at it. To me it would just be worse if the filter was right next to the engine sucking up all that hot air. Just an opinion though.

If you already have a K&N you probably won't notice any difference in power, but to me it's worth it to have one because they make the engine bay look so much cleaner.

Go here and check out their price on the MAC unit... http://www.mustangwarehouse.com
That's a site I did for a guy out of New York and he has some pretty good prices on stuff.

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Buy your parts here

terrible0ne · 03-06-2001, 03:27 PM

I have the bbk cold air on my 87lx and it does fit tight but if you take your time it will go on and it does help in power over the stock set up but how much can depend they say for every 10degree drop is worth 1% so it depends on the temp but I would say 7-10 on a good day and a clean filter

chris91LX · 03-06-2001, 04:54 PM

Just for the record I got mine from GTR High Performance in Rancho Cucamonga (I love that name) California. Delivered to my door it was $132.24 and it got here in the Chicago area in 4 days. Their phone # is 888-HIPOGTR and their web address is www.ietoday.com/gtrhipo

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91 LX 5.0
Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

chris91LX · 03-06-2001, 04:55 PM

Sorry, double post.

[This message has been edited by chris91LX (edited 03-06-2001).]

03-06-2001, 06:43 PM

I know they make em cause I have one sitting right here with my heads, intake, injectors, etc. waiting for the snow to melt to dump into my 393 stroker

03-05-2001, 02:42 PM	#1
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	BBK cold air induction I have a K&N drop in filter, a TB and a MAF. Will the cold air induction realy make a difference? I was considering buying one from summit for $169.00 Anyone know dyno numbers? Will I realy get the ten-15 hp. I seriously doubt it but I would realy appreciate some input....thanks ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

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03-05-2001, 02:47 PM	#2
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	I'd like to get this for my car, but I don't want to shell out ~$90 for it. :/ http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?catcode=34002 It'd sure beat having that stock air box though.

03-05-2001, 03:36 PM	#3
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	I believe that setup is for a fox, I have an SN95 5.0 Still I have heard that they are actualy worse than the stock setup because they suck up heat from the motor (which kinda eliminates the "cold" in "cold air induction" Im thinking about saving the cash for a GT40 intake but if this will really help then Im gonna buy it too. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

03-05-2001, 03:42 PM	#4
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	You can expect 15 horsepower if you had a small child or kitten stuck in your airbox.......but other wise, no. Over stock you get about 5-7, almost in the range as the infamous pullies that everyone loves. Get a k&n cone, and then rip out your airbox. Look at how stuff needs to be routed, then go to Home Depot and look at all the lovely PVC piping in the plumbing department. If you don't like the white look, you can get ABS piping thats next to all the PVC stuff, simmilar, just black the ABS is. If you have an unnatural fascination with PVC piping, like myself, you will eventually understand its powers and make new things: http://www.goldmann.com/spudgun.html

03-05-2001, 05:50 PM	#5
CJ's94GT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wichita,KS Posts: 59	I thought it was a good idea too. I got tired of waiting on BBK so I got the MAC one. After I lost my THIRD $40 K&N filter doing 70mph on the freeway I decided it wasn't worth 10 hp and ripped it off. When it was on, I "thought" it felt more powerfull. Sounded great, though. Really heard the air getting sucked into the motor. Besides, one of my sillycone hoses that connects the tube to the TB got ripped and I can't find a replacement anywhere. Has BBK actually started making these things yet? I waited a year and a half and, last I heard, they still didn't have any production pieces yet.

03-05-2001, 05:56 PM	#6
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	yeah, check the summit catalog. It looks totaly sweet. If its worth it Im gonna pick it up. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

03-05-2001, 07:51 PM	#7
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	I've had the Moroso 'cheapie' model cold-air induction kit since '99 and I love it. Easy install and no problems. They give you about 3-4 HP (maximum) over a K&N in a stock airbox. The '15 HP gain' is more like 10, at best, and only if you had a stock filter in a stock housing and the silencer still in place. My recommendation is that this is a nice mod if you have (and intend to keep) stock heads and cam and are trying to squeeze every available HP out of a basically stock 5.0. That would be me. If you have or intend to get heads, etc then the few HP a cold-air induction kit gives you is not going to be noticed and isn't really worth the money, in my opinion. They do clean up the engine bay and if that's important to you, than you may want to invest in a kit. I suggest the Moroso for price and because of my good personal experience with it, but it's not a 'looker'. Finally; they do sound great at WOT! fastang: FYI: The cold-air induction kits place the filter in the inner wheelwell (away from the road) and do suck up cooler 'outside' air. The older K&N kits that placed the oversized fiter in the engine compartment were not a great mod and not the same as the newer, cold-air induction kits. [This message has been edited by Mr 5 0 (edited 03-05-2001).]

03-05-2001, 08:18 PM	#8
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Mr.5.0 I have seen these advertized on fox bodies before where the filter was in the wheelwell but not for my SN95. Does Moroso make one for my car? All the setups I see for my car keep the filter in the engine bay with a metal plate behind it to block heat. My friend of mine ran over a mud puddle in his integra and his fender mount cold air induction sucked up water and hydrolocked a piston. Have you ever heard of this happening to a stang? Thanks for your advice, you have been quit helpful so far ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

03-05-2001, 09:45 PM	#9
rbatson Guest Posts: n/a	Why don't you just make one like I did. I had a picture of it posted in the lounge a couple weeks back. Its the same thing..

03-05-2001, 09:54 PM	#10
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	The BBK kit is a piece of S...!! I ordered it and it didn't fit right. For $160 I expected it to at least fit, but the angles were all a little off and the whole thing felt like it would pop off the second I opened up the throttle. I sent it back to Summit and bought the Mac kit from GTR for $30 less and it fit very well. I didn't notice a huge increase in hp or anything but it sure looks cool. The Mac kit also doesn't have a big plaque on it advertising their name like the BBK one does. I haven't had any problems with it, but my pony has been in storage for the winter. I took it out for the first time on Saturday and it rocked! My $.02 is to stay away from the BBK if your gonna go for it. It's mostly for looks as far as I'm concerned, I'm not expecting a huge hp increase. ------------------ 91 LX 5.0 Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

03-05-2001, 11:05 PM	#11
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	MAC 94-95 Mustang Cold Air induction: $140.00 http://www.jdsperformance.com/index....id=94&fcmd=cat

03-06-2001, 09:37 AM	#12
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Sweet. Thanks guys Ill get the Mac. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

03-06-2001, 09:49 AM	#13
88COBRA STANGPOWER.COM Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,045	I sell the MAC cold air inatkes, much cheaper then anyone else. Check out my site, under the Stang Shop! Ian ------------------ Ian Sim webmaster@stangpower.com STORED: 1988 Mustang GT "Canadian Cobra", stock, AOD, loaded LOTS OF PRODUCTS, AWESOME PRICES! Visit my site: http://www.stangpower.com

03-06-2001, 09:56 AM	#14
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	I've heard a lot of people say the BBK units are crap. Do yourself a favor and get the MAC unit if you are going to get one. And get a fenderwell one while you are at it. To me it would just be worse if the filter was right next to the engine sucking up all that hot air. Just an opinion though. If you already have a K&N you probably won't notice any difference in power, but to me it's worth it to have one because they make the engine bay look so much cleaner. Go here and check out their price on the MAC unit... http://www.mustangwarehouse.com That's a site I did for a guy out of New York and he has some pretty good prices on stuff. ------------------ Indiana Stangers Association Buy your parts here

03-06-2001, 03:27 PM	#15
terrible0ne Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: elgin ,iL,USA Posts: 36	I have the bbk cold air on my 87lx and it does fit tight but if you take your time it will go on and it does help in power over the stock set up but how much can depend they say for every 10degree drop is worth 1% so it depends on the temp but I would say 7-10 on a good day and a clean filter

03-06-2001, 04:54 PM	#16
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	Just for the record I got mine from GTR High Performance in Rancho Cucamonga (I love that name) California. Delivered to my door it was $132.24 and it got here in the Chicago area in 4 days. Their phone # is 888-HIPOGTR and their web address is www.ietoday.com/gtrhipo ------------------ 91 LX 5.0 Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

03-06-2001, 04:55 PM	#17
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	Sorry, double post. [This message has been edited by chris91LX (edited 03-06-2001).]

03-06-2001, 06:43 PM	#18
stroker393 Guest Posts: n/a	I know they make em cause I have one sitting right here with my heads, intake, injectors, etc. waiting for the snow to melt to dump into my 393 stroker