Do we need a dedicated power adder forum?
 

Moxie just posed the question in the Site Feedback forum that we could use a dedicated forum for the discussion of power adders (Nitrous, Turbos, and Superchargers). Therefore, I thought I'd create a poll in the main tech forum here asking everyone's opinion to see if everyone thinks this would be a good idea, and if it is really need. I.e. would it be heavily used?

I don't think there would be enough traffic in there, I could be wrong though.

There is a decent amount of power adder questions in the tech forums, but they ARE tech questions so I believe thats where they should be posted.

Myself and alot of other members spend most of the time in the windsor and lounge forums. This is where I have learned probably about 70% of my Mustang and general mechanics knowledge.

If I come across a power adder question, I will read it just to learn (or if simple enough, maybe try to help out). I don't own nor am I in the market yet for a power adder so I think that taking the power adder topics out of the Tech forums would be a mistake.

This is just me though, I guess we should let the guys with the power adders decide this one huh?

Yes!!!
 

Nitrous/Turbos/superchargers more and more people are going to them including me and I think it would be great and as far as traffic goes some of the forums here are dead but I think a power adders forum would be alive and kick'n

Probably half of the people here have power adders, and the other half want them. How could you go wrong:confused:

I simply agree with everything fiveohpatrol said. I dont have a power adder and really not in the market right know. But I enjoy reading the posts about them trying to learn as much as possible.

Brad

I don't think the Windsor forum is quite what it used to be and still needs more posts. I think adding another forum will take away from the traffic and the number of responses users get in the Windsor and 4.6 forum(s).

How about a power adder / stroker forum, More people would respond on these issues if they didnt have to filter through everything else in the windsor forum. If it did slow down traffic in the windsor forum who cares it would make the site more user friendly

I feel the same as Dark_5.0, more and more people are turning to power adders and would like to be able to have a place to ask there questions about them without having to go to another message board just to find out about that one thing. it might not take off right away but i think it's worth a try.

I love this site and I try to visit it as much as possible but I don't have a lot of time after work.
I would like to visit all the forums and answer all the questions I can and talk to all my friends that I have made here.
The truth is I really do not get to visit all the forums and one more would just be another one that I did not have time to visit; I would never see the posts that are in there I would never have a chance to answer where if it is posted in the Windsor forum I would have seen it and if I knew the answer to the question I would answer it.

We really do not have enough traffic in the other forums to add another. When I get on this site, I can see all the posts on one page for the day and can browse all the posts with out having to load another page and that saves me a lot of time.

I have a very fast connection (cable) but still do not like to jump from page to page. Some people on the site do not have a fast connection.

These are just my opinions and I am looking forward to hearing what others have to say.
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I don't believe the addition of another forum is necessary. Not only would the Windsor forum lose traffic, the mostly quiet Modular Madness forum would as well. Also, the modular engines are popular power adder receipents, and I could see advice not being consistant for both the Windsor engines and the Modular engines.

I think it's best to keep the tech seperated as it is now, that way you can learn about which superchargers worked well with the engine you have.

Unit, I agree completely with your point. I can see how people could easily get confused that way.

Come on!
 

4.6's have there own forum, 4 cylinders have there own forums and the lightning, bullit, Svt cars have there own forum..............Cars with power adders and stroker kits are a whole other animal and should be treated as such. most of the people I have seen that are against it argue that it would take traffic away from the windsor forum....Take a look at the post in the windsor forum right now there are 4 or 5 post that would fit in a power adder forum...


Well Hell, heres what I am saying, if noone uses the forum whats it going to hurt and if people do use the forum its a touchdown.

When I first read the subject I was thinking it would be a great idea. Unit does have a good point, it makes alot of sense. On the other hand, it couldn't hurt(I don't think).

I haven't checked out the windor forum in quite some time(probably a yr or more) until real recently because.. some old 'what tire will fit', which tb, generic chip question, gears and so on gets tiring after a yr or so. I actually once looked forward to the windsor forum, now its just somewhat tiring to me. If there was a poweradder/stroker forum I'd be checking that out before the lounge(where I usually hang these days). It may even get the attention of any new comers(like Girls can too did) to the site. I'm sure we could learn alot from it but I'm also afraid that it would take away from the windsor forum but....... it may just add to it(new members and/or more participation). It doesn't hurt to change and if it did hurt anything... we could always go back.

Change is progress. Lets move forward..

You could try it, and some people may use it, some may not. As I've watched the number of forums expand on this site, I've noticed a couple different scenerios.

Long time members continue using their favorite forums. Some new users post in the proper forum (which experiences low traffic) and therefore doesn't necessarily get the best advice. Some new users just plain post anywhere.

Dark_5.0, we do have separate forums for Mod engines, and Windsor engines, and the Small Ponies, and the Classics. They cover all the aspects of that type of engine/car. Adding a forum for a type of modification would mearly cause the 4 banger turbo's, the forced induction 3.8's, 4.6's, 5.0's etc etc to all be grouped together for tech advice. I don't think that is a very good idea.

It's also much more difficult for dialup users, like what I'm stuck with at the moment. Changing from forum to forum takes time. Somebody posting in the Forced Induction Forum might not get the opportunity to have all the knowledgeable people responding to his/her thread if they don't visit that forum and instead stick to say Windsor Power. Wading through topics that may or may not relate to your engine or car when you are looking for answers quick may also be a problem. When you go to Windsor Power, you know you'll be getting information for the 5.0/5.8 engines about 90% of the time. When you go to Modular Madness, you know you'll be looking at information for your 4.6L car, not some old 5.0. Right now I feel it's organized for the quickest easiest way to search for topics you need info on, find and answer questions that you have knowledge to spread, and avoid unnecessary wading through irrelevant material.

I agree with you Kell, but this is also the reason I think a power adder/stroker forum may be useful.

I could not have said it better unit!

If we had a way to check a couple of boxes for the forums we wanted to visit and they would all be loaded on the same page then that would help me with this issue and I don't mean a way to load every post on every forum for that day, just the ones you want to visit.

Hey Dan can you do that? If so I would be up to giving the new forum a try and would even visit it.

What does everyone else think of this idea?

Uint does have a good Point about the Winsor Guys and the Mod Guys it could be a bit confusing at times But I would be Up for a test Run of it I will Post in It as much as I could. I realy dont like it when there are about 3 of more Place I might make my post and If I did not know what one would be the best place to post it I dont think the Windsor Power forum as to much Traffic to realy need a new One.

My take:
 

Well I think no matter what we do, it's not that big of an issue. But here's what I think.

Say I have a 1995 Mustang GT (:D ). Now when I look at my car's performance I see the whole car. So I want to install a blower. Great I could go to this new forum and find out which SC to buy, how much boost to run, etc. But then when I pick my cam or heads or intake or throttlebody where to I go? Windsor or the new power adder site? What about if you get comfortable in the power adder board and then you have a question on suspension?

Now we all know that all those parts vary drastically between a 3.8, 5.0, or 4.6. So now I'm not sure whose going to get the best advice on the intake I should pick. Well if I go to the Power adder forum, I could get some one who knows only about the 4.6. Well that doesn't help any. Of course the arguement could be made that a 5.0 guy could pick up the question, but hey if you post in windsor you know you're going to get an answer from someone who knows the car. I just think that if we all owned only engines that would be fine, but our cars are made up of a lot more.

Then what happens if you have one thing posted in the power adder forum and the same post in windsor or mod forum? You lose some of the "discussion". I don't know about you, but if I see someone posting the same topic in 2 (or more) boards, I ignore the 2nd or 3rd posts.

Either way the board will still be great, but I think we should keep our forums together. Who knows maybe then we should have a "Turbo" forum and a "Supercharger" Forum and definately a "Nitrous" forum. Where does the specialization end?

Hmmm.. Alot of good points. Maybe it is better like it is.. :confused:

Power Adder Post's
 

Not only do I think we need a dedicated power adder section, If it was up to me, and I have absolutely no idea what is involved, such as cost, etc....I would have separate sections for Nitrous, Superchargers, and Turbo's, they are radically different in how you tune them, i think separate areas would be justified.

Let's (it already is) make this the best stang site on the net!

Power adder section
 

I think it would be a great addition.

I would also sign up for the moderators job if you were looking. I am currently a moderator for the nitrous forum of www.motownmuscle.com.

So I have experience!:)

I think the 4.6 and 5.0 lumped together idea is a non-issue. Most people know what they are dealing with and know enough to separate the advice between the two. I think the new forum is a good idea. It could possibly attract several new faces, maybe a whole new group of power adder people that dont care for the separate Windsor and 4.6 forums.
andy

Its a great idea, do it!

Who would want to wade through a bunch of crap when looking for power adder advice?

The more specific the forum, the more you can find better quality people to answer the questions.

And also, between blowers, turbos, and nitrous, there is enough material to keep another forum busy.

I wish I had read the replies before casting my vote, because they have changed my mind. My first reaction was to do it, and that is how I voted, but now I'm not so sure. There really isn't that much traffic here as it is, and due to peoples time constraints, most can only view one or two forums at a time. Inevitably, that will lead to reduced traffic in the Windsor forum, which means less experience to share. Eventually, I think it would be a great idea. Maybe by the summer there will be enough traffic to justify it, but right now, I'm not so sure.

Take care,
-Chris

So what I'm seeing is a dedicated N20 forum, and Supercharger, and Stroker, and Turbo. The more specialized, the better.

Now, say you want to ask a question about which is best. You have to post in 5 forums. Also, I didn't say you couldn't wade through the topics and weed out the ones that don't apply, but that's exactly what sux about it for slow connection users. Opening up 5 topics, waiting for them to load, then finding out it relates to a windsor engine and not a mod engine would certainly frustrate the crap outta me.

I find it very easy to do a quick scroll through the topics in Windsor to find the ones that relate to strokers or N20, or superchargers, or turbos, etc. I do not find it easy to switch from BOL, to Windsor, to Classic, to SRC. There are obvious reasons for the seperation there.

I don't find there to be a significant difference between stroker engines and stock engines. As for forced induction, most of the same principles cross the boards here too. While they are very different about how they go about making power, the parts selection for the best results are often the same (save for camshafts). Having all the posts in a single forum IMHO likely improves traffic, keeps misinformation down, and improves the knowledge base of all our users. The more specialized you get, less the knowledge base there is to share.

More specialization has been less than stellar for some of our forums. Apperance, Built Ford Tough, Corner Carvers Delight, Club SVT, and Drag Racer aren't super active. Not to say they aren't good forums, I think they've accelerated in use as more new members come here, but how many more of the small forums do you really want to have where somebody posts in a larger forum saying they couldn't get the help they wanted in the smaller one?

I guess it's just my opinion.

I agree with you, too many forums. I personally have never been to any of the forums you listed but the "Built Ford Tough" forum. I made a post and I think someone replied.. I think. The only forums I care about(personally) would be the lounge, girls can too(I like the girls), street racing, Mod Motors and the Windsor forum. Those are the only places I've been since I've been here. I'm not saying the others aren't good forums.. I'm sure they are great, lots of info going back and forth.

All I'm saying is that, alot of us have strokers, nos, turbos, blowers or a combination of them. I'm not gonna make a post asking what timing would be best in the windsor forum.. who would answer?? If there was a forum for this type of thing, I'd personally feel better about making the post. I'd be more confidient in the replies. Alot of us have outgrown the windsor forum..

I actually felt guilty today about the earlier posts I made, thinking I was selfish wanting a dedicated forum. The thing is.. there are alot of us.. I realized that just reading the replies tonight.

I'm not saying we wouldn't come to the windsor forum, I'm just saying I honestly think it would help the site grow.

Just lump turbos/Nitrous/and superchargers together and get a moderator that knows whats up and it will be a touchdown period.

I think a power adders forum would attract people that really race there car at the track and want to go faster and faster.
This year I will be entering some of the money races at the track and I will need lots of help with trying to get consistency and reliability out of my nitrous system.

The less students in a class the more attention you get from the teacher.;)

Like I said in my earlyer post, if there were some check boxes that you could check and then you could visit only those forums at the same time on the same page then I would be a lot happier about the new forum.

Yes definitely!! That is the only reason I go to the Corral. The all motor guys might not care much, but when you're trying to find power adder specific information, it takes FOREVER to scroll through pages of other tech questions. Big two thumbs up for a power adder forum here!
LS1.com takes it another step further and splits nitrous from forced induction which I also like a lot. It's easier to categorize (takes up a bit more space) in the start, and then you can find stuff easier.

I believe it would be a good idea to have a "Power Adder" forum, and I believe there would be eanough users looking on it to keep it active.I believe the reason these forums that are not active, are not active because not as many people are interested in them.

A lot of people are interested in "power adders" and would like to learn more. another suggestion I would have for this new forum would be to tell the difference between turbocharger vs supercharger like on this site http://members.tripod.com/tomak3/page10.html

Mo Power Adder
 

Im with rbatson on this one. I still like the Mustang Works but find myself in the Corral for the tech side of things. They have some very good conversations on tech stuff because of the different boards like "Power Adder". The conversations are more advanced and technical. Focusing in on subjects makes it easier than sifting thru the bs. jmo. later.....

I must just be a simple Guy I dont go there becuase they have so many I dont like I will stay here no matter what But I like the way it is And I realy dont see that many Post that another is need. if there was more I would say yes.

Ok, I waited while on purpose to respond to this thread after I started it. I wanted to see what kind of response and voting it got for a while. It seems that between those who said "NO", and those who where undecided, there is a greater majority on not adding this forum at this time. Therefore, at this time I'm not going to add another forum and we'll let things sit as is for a while longer and just revist this another time if it becomes more neccesary.

Thanks for all your input.

Thanks Dan. I think this topic has raised alot of good questions and I am glad you did ask our opinions before you just went and did. That shows you at acknowledge that we are here and you want the best for the site as a whole.

Brad

Hey dan I think that if you could have some buttons that you could select the rooms you wanted to visit and you could visit them all at one time that would be a great help for some one like me who is short on time.
Can you do this?

What does everyone else think of the idea?

pony_power_90 - Exactly. That's why I posted a poll and asked for feedback on the existing forum it would mostly affect.

FiveO - I guess I get what you are saying, but VBulletin does not have that functionality built into it.

I say go for it.

Go look at the Corral and check out how crowded their Windsor forum is. Post a topic and refresh constantly to watch it drop off the 1st page into the never to be read 2nd and 3rd pages. That is because they need more forums because their user base is so big. To me that makes the site undesirable to go for help because there are just too many people posting in the same forum. This site will be as bad some day.

As for other forums on here not getting the traffic they should that is more our fault that anything. If we (the readers) would utilize these forums it would make this site SO much better. I know I'm just as guilty as the next person when it comes to hanging in the Windsor and Lounge forums only, but I do try to sneak into the Corner Carver section to see what's going on every now and then. I'm also guilty of posting a topic in the Windsor forum just because I know it will get the most hits there. We can all help these new forums grow by posting our topics in the appropriate forums.

Anyway, I think a power adder forum would do good here.

Oh yeah, there's a couple typos in the forum descriptions in the forum list:
Performance Industry
A forum to [discussion the performance industry].

Appearance & Detailing
Discussion on appearance related topics, such as body work, hoods, [windgs], car care and detailing, etc...

I would hope that if Dan does make the new Forum in the future, that you keep it to the more technical questions than "whats the difference between a supercharger and a turbo"...Thats the kind of extremely basic question that keeps knowledgeable people away, and over at the corrals forums for superior technical content.

This forum should be for advanced tuning issues and recommendations, not "what is a power adder" type questions imho..

Just look at the 'Girls can too' forum. We have quite a few people here that otherwise would not be here. I think a nos/blower/stroker forum would do the same thing, maybe even more so.