Does this amount of hp seem odd for this setup..

Smokedawg · 08-30-2001, 11:27 AM

check out these 2 combos

rebuilt 302 to 306 street engine 312 horse
stock '87-95 heads
10:1 silv-o-lite* .030 over pistons
302 block checked and bored .030
new hastings rings
stock rods - checked and conditioned
street killer wolverine 280/.475 flat tappet camshaft
new clevite 77 bearings (rod main and cam)
seasoned crank turned to .010 .010
new dynagear oil pump and pump drive
new dynagear double roller timingchain
standard steel rockers and pushrods.
valve covers
oil pan & front cover

fully assembled complete price** $900 + shipping.

rebuilt 302 to 306 street engine 350 horse
stock '87-95 heads magnafluxed with new valve job
10:1 silv-o-lite* .030 over hypereutectic pistons
302 block checked and bored .030
new hastings rings
stock rods - checked and conditioned
street killer wolverine 292/512 camshaft
new clevite 77 bearings (rod main and cam)
seasoned crank turned to .010 .010
new dynagear oil pump and pump drive
new dynagear double roller timingchain
standard steel rockers and pushrods.

fully assembled longblock price** $1095 + shipping

I am looking to install a 306 into a fox 4banger body..What all do I have to change for this to work right?? Will I be in need of a new tranny? Rearend?? What else..
Thanks

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

[This message has been edited by Smokedawg (edited 08-30-2001).]

89 Cobra LX · 08-30-2001, 12:43 PM

I don't know about anyone else, but those HP #s seem a little high with stock 87-95 heads.

Smokedawg · 08-30-2001, 12:59 PM

Thats what I was thinking also. He said they have been fully ported, polished and milled...

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

exgmguy · 08-30-2001, 01:00 PM

I agree. Depending on induction, etc.. I would guess more like 250-260 hp at the most.

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1988 Mustang GT
11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01)
1992 BadAzz Wrangler
1993 Explorer

See my car at: www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?179

Smokedawg · 08-30-2001, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by exgmguy:
I agree. Depending on induction, etc.. I would guess more like 250-260 hp at the most.

260hp at the wheels or crank?
I would add a set of 1.6 or 1.7rr's and either a trick flow or edelbrock intake.

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

95mustanggt · 08-30-2001, 01:30 PM

I don't know, good ported and polished heads should be good to more than 250HP. It would depend on the induction components; upper and lower intake, TB, MAF, and cam (which looks like both engines have).

I think the 300HP number sounds resonable. 350 sounds a little too optimistic though.

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1995 Mustang GT

Smokedawg · 08-30-2001, 01:39 PM

I would set this up with about a 73mm MAF and a 65mmTB..24lb injectors..

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

Smokedawg · 08-30-2001, 02:21 PM

Correction: Now the guy says that only the exhaust side has been cleaned up to help with those flow problems..I could port the intake side myself if need be...

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

95mustanggt · 08-30-2001, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smokedawg:
Correction: Now the guy says that only the exhaust side has been cleaned up to help with those flow problems..I could port the intake side myself if need be...

Ya 350 sounds pretty unrealistic.

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1995 Mustang GT

Smokedawg · 08-30-2001, 02:40 PM

what about the motor thats suppost to be putting out 312..the guy said its possible to get those numbers with a good carb setup but maybe with a fuelie...

89 Cobra LX · 08-30-2001, 03:23 PM

Don't fool with that motor. It doesn't even have a roller cam.

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Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe
302 - Cobra Intake - GT40p heads - TFS stage 1 cam - FRPP 1.6 roller rockers - Naturally Aspirated
3:73 gears - KYB shocks and struts - Eibach springs - HPM Mega-bite Jr lower control arms - HPM upper control arms

Smokedawg · 08-30-2001, 03:43 PM

Thanks for the replies..I will stay away from these..

08-30-2001, 11:27 AM	#1
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	Does this amount of hp seem odd for this setup.. check out these 2 combos rebuilt 302 to 306 street engine 312 horse stock '87-95 heads 10:1 silv-o-lite* .030 over pistons 302 block checked and bored .030 new hastings rings stock rods - checked and conditioned street killer wolverine 280/.475 flat tappet camshaft new clevite 77 bearings (rod main and cam) seasoned crank turned to .010 .010 new dynagear oil pump and pump drive new dynagear double roller timingchain standard steel rockers and pushrods. valve covers oil pan & front cover fully assembled complete price** $900 + shipping. rebuilt 302 to 306 street engine 350 horse stock '87-95 heads magnafluxed with new valve job 10:1 silv-o-lite* .030 over hypereutectic pistons 302 block checked and bored .030 new hastings rings stock rods - checked and conditioned street killer wolverine 292/512 camshaft new clevite 77 bearings (rod main and cam) seasoned crank turned to .010 .010 new dynagear oil pump and pump drive new dynagear double roller timingchain standard steel rockers and pushrods. fully assembled longblock price** $1095 + shipping I am looking to install a 306 into a fox 4banger body..What all do I have to change for this to work right?? Will I be in need of a new tranny? Rearend?? What else.. Thanks ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del. [This message has been edited by Smokedawg (edited 08-30-2001).]

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08-30-2001, 12:43 PM	#2
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	I don't know about anyone else, but those HP #s seem a little high with stock 87-95 heads.

08-30-2001, 12:59 PM	#3
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	Thats what I was thinking also. He said they have been fully ported, polished and milled... ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

08-30-2001, 01:00 PM	#4
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I agree. Depending on induction, etc.. I would guess more like 250-260 hp at the most. ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT 11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01) 1992 BadAzz Wrangler 1993 Explorer See my car at: www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?179

08-30-2001, 01:30 PM	#6
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	I don't know, good ported and polished heads should be good to more than 250HP. It would depend on the induction components; upper and lower intake, TB, MAF, and cam (which looks like both engines have). I think the 300HP number sounds resonable. 350 sounds a little too optimistic though. ------------------ 1995 Mustang GT

08-30-2001, 01:39 PM	#7
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	I would set this up with about a 73mm MAF and a 65mmTB..24lb injectors.. ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

08-30-2001, 02:21 PM	#8
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	Correction: Now the guy says that only the exhaust side has been cleaned up to help with those flow problems..I could port the intake side myself if need be... ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

08-30-2001, 02:40 PM	#10
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	what about the motor thats suppost to be putting out 312..the guy said its possible to get those numbers with a good carb setup but maybe with a fuelie...

08-30-2001, 03:23 PM	#11
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	Don't fool with that motor. It doesn't even have a roller cam. ------------------ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 302 - Cobra Intake - GT40p heads - TFS stage 1 cam - FRPP 1.6 roller rockers - Naturally Aspirated 3:73 gears - KYB shocks and struts - Eibach springs - HPM Mega-bite Jr lower control arms - HPM upper control arms

08-30-2001, 03:43 PM	#12
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	Thanks for the replies..I will stay away from these..