E303 equivalant-without the probs?

sn95gt19 · 05-29-2002, 09:46 AM

i have the e 303 cam in my 95 and am looking for a cam with about the same duration and lift, without the problems, i drive it on the street everyday so it cant be too big, nothing with a really lopey idle, thanks (my mods are below)

Smokedawg · 05-29-2002, 10:06 AM

What problem is the E-cam giving you??

sn95gt19 · 05-29-2002, 10:07 AM

low vaccum, surging idle not the power increase i was looking for.

mysweetlx · 05-29-2002, 01:11 PM

I've got the F cam and I've got the same sort of problems.......low rpm bucking anoys the hell out of me. I'm looking into an AFM cam.

sn95gt19 · 05-29-2002, 01:28 PM

i had the b303 cam in my old motor and it was the worst cam i have ever had, power band was only from 4000-5000 rpms. so if anyone is looking into that cam i would into another kind. from my past experiance and from hearing others opinions on the ford cams, i dont think i will ever buy another frpp cam.

fiveohpatrol · 05-29-2002, 10:37 PM

The problem isn't your cam, its the fact that you have it in an Sn95. Those computers do not addapt well at all to cams.

The B303 is NOT a bad cam by any means. I wasn't expecting much out of mine, but I am extremely impressed. In my car, it pulls very hard from 3000 all the way up to the rev limiter, and wants to go even further than that.

If you are gonna slap a cam in an SN95, then you are gonna need a custom chip or EEC tuner if you want it to run decently.

sn95gt19 · 05-29-2002, 11:44 PM

i had the b303 in an 89lx, and i have the pms from anderson on order(its on back order for 2 weeks) so well see what happens after i get that and get it all tuned in. one thing that i didnt have was a chip or programmable computer in my 89, i heard that you need one or the other to make the car run right. that might have been the prob. in that car.

Unit 5302 · 05-30-2002, 12:34 AM

Most of the time it's not the cams fault, it's a mismatched combo. There are a lot of people who have success with the B303, especially with 1.7's, and many many more who perform well with the E303.

The SN95 cars can certainly take cams, but you have to be picky about which ones you select. You need to make sure the cam isn't too crazy, and it has a good LSA.

sn95gt19 · 05-30-2002, 09:45 AM

no one has anwered my ?yet, which is a good cam that is close in duration and lift to the e303, i have heard that the steeda cams are pretty good, also the trick flow and afm. let me know

Christoph · 05-30-2002, 08:29 PM

I have heard of many SN95 owners using the Crane 2031...

I believe the main problem with the SN95 computers and aftermarket cams involve the LSA. Look for a cam with a higher LSA such as some of the Comp Cams grinds...

Good luck!!

Chris

slo95 · 05-30-2002, 09:04 PM

steeda 19 for our cars is suppose to be nice. the LSA has to be like 14*-16* most of the off the shelf grinds are around 10-12.

Mach 1 · 05-31-2002, 08:22 AM

comp has some cams with a wide LSA and short duration. thats what you need.

sn95gt19 · 05-31-2002, 10:12 AM

once i get the pms from anderson, i shouldnt need to get a different cam right? being able to program it will eliminate the poor computer problems.

andy669 · 05-31-2002, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sn95gt19
once i get the pms from anderson, i shouldnt need to get a different cam right? being able to program it will eliminate the poor computer problems.

Exactly.

The only thing I liked better about my Autologic chip over the PMS was the ability to control the fan. The Autologic software gives you the ability to turn the fan on earlier. The PMS does not.

andy

sn95gt19 · 05-31-2002, 12:44 PM

i ran mine to a switch, when the switch is on the fan is always on, but when the switch is off the fan acts like it would on its own, through the computer. its always on though, my fan doesnt turn on until its in the red for some reason. do you know what that could be?

andy669 · 05-31-2002, 01:37 PM

Good idea with the switch!

I would suspect the ECT is the culprit on the fan turning on late.

andy

slo95 · 05-31-2002, 02:25 PM

just a guess...ECT? I have had mine go bad with no codes and cause it to run hot (Fan not kicking in)

sn95gt19 · 05-31-2002, 03:14 PM

yeah, you just splice a wire into the purple w/green stripe from the plug thats on he side of the overflow, and run it to a switch and ground it, then you have an automatic/manual fan switch. where is the ECT located, i have never had to deal with one of those. also what does that stand for?

andy669 · 05-31-2002, 11:04 PM

Engine Coolant Temp:

I cant remember exactly where it is. I think it just screws in to the lower.

andy

Mach 1 · 05-31-2002, 11:15 PM

it screws into the coolant tranfer tube that feeds the heater core hoses. cant miss it.

05-29-2002, 09:46 AM	#1
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	E303 equivalant-without the probs? i have the e 303 cam in my 95 and am looking for a cam with about the same duration and lift, without the problems, i drive it on the street everyday so it cant be too big, nothing with a really lopey idle, thanks (my mods are below) __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

05-29-2002, 10:06 AM	#2
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	What problem is the E-cam giving you?? __________________ 1990 Mustang GT- 347 Stroker-Tremec 3550-Compucar Nitrous, AFR, Systemax Intake, AFM, 30lbers, 70MM TB, 76mm MAF, full suspension and lots more 1995 Chevy S-10 406 SBC, Dual tunnel ram, Dart heads, Nitrous, full tub, 4-link, adjustable drag shocks, coil-overs, 9in rearend, 4.56 gears...etc

05-29-2002, 10:07 AM	#3
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	low vaccum, surging idle not the power increase i was looking for. __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

05-29-2002, 01:11 PM	#4
mysweetlx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 248	I've got the F cam and I've got the same sort of problems.......low rpm bucking anoys the hell out of me. I'm looking into an AFM cam. __________________ Damn this thing's fast!

05-29-2002, 01:28 PM	#5
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	i had the b303 cam in my old motor and it was the worst cam i have ever had, power band was only from 4000-5000 rpms. so if anyone is looking into that cam i would into another kind. from my past experiance and from hearing others opinions on the ford cams, i dont think i will ever buy another frpp cam. __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

05-29-2002, 10:37 PM	#6
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	The problem isn't your cam, its the fact that you have it in an Sn95. Those computers do not addapt well at all to cams. The B303 is NOT a bad cam by any means. I wasn't expecting much out of mine, but I am extremely impressed. In my car, it pulls very hard from 3000 all the way up to the rev limiter, and wants to go even further than that. If you are gonna slap a cam in an SN95, then you are gonna need a custom chip or EEC tuner if you want it to run decently. __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

05-29-2002, 11:44 PM	#7
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	i had the b303 in an 89lx, and i have the pms from anderson on order(its on back order for 2 weeks) so well see what happens after i get that and get it all tuned in. one thing that i didnt have was a chip or programmable computer in my 89, i heard that you need one or the other to make the car run right. that might have been the prob. in that car. __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

05-30-2002, 12:34 AM	#8
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Most of the time it's not the cams fault, it's a mismatched combo. There are a lot of people who have success with the B303, especially with 1.7's, and many many more who perform well with the E303. The SN95 cars can certainly take cams, but you have to be picky about which ones you select. You need to make sure the cam isn't too crazy, and it has a good LSA.

05-30-2002, 09:45 AM	#9
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	no one has anwered my ?yet, which is a good cam that is close in duration and lift to the e303, i have heard that the steeda cams are pretty good, also the trick flow and afm. let me know __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

05-30-2002, 08:29 PM	#10
Christoph Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia Posts: 1	I have heard of many SN95 owners using the Crane 2031... I believe the main problem with the SN95 computers and aftermarket cams involve the LSA. Look for a cam with a higher LSA such as some of the Comp Cams grinds... Good luck!! Chris __________________ Cobra front brakes, GM metric rear disk brakes, Kumho tires, J&M c/c plates, J&M LCAs, Maximum Motorsports STB, full length SFCs and panhard bar, UPR Blue Thunder shifter, SPEC Stage II clutch and FRPP aluminum driveshaft.

05-30-2002, 09:04 PM	#11
slo95 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 168	steeda 19 for our cars is suppose to be nice. the LSA has to be like 14-16 most of the off the shelf grinds are around 10-12.

05-31-2002, 08:22 AM	#12
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	comp has some cams with a wide LSA and short duration. thats what you need. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

05-31-2002, 10:12 AM	#13
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	once i get the pms from anderson, i shouldnt need to get a different cam right? being able to program it will eliminate the poor computer problems. __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

05-31-2002, 12:44 PM	#15
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	i ran mine to a switch, when the switch is on the fan is always on, but when the switch is off the fan acts like it would on its own, through the computer. its always on though, my fan doesnt turn on until its in the red for some reason. do you know what that could be? __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

05-31-2002, 01:37 PM	#16
andy669 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Moline Il Posts: 901	Good idea with the switch! I would suspect the ECT is the culprit on the fan turning on late. andy __________________ 88 coupe 91 LX NMRA Pure Street 5120

05-31-2002, 02:25 PM	#17
slo95 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 168	just a guess...ECT? I have had mine go bad with no codes and cause it to run hot (Fan not kicking in)

05-31-2002, 03:14 PM	#18
sn95gt19 motors done......woohooo Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 799	yeah, you just splice a wire into the purple w/green stripe from the plug thats on he side of the overflow, and run it to a switch and ground it, then you have an automatic/manual fan switch. where is the ECT located, i have never had to deal with one of those. also what does that stand for? __________________ 95gt lazer red (98 cobra clone) Rice Haters Club Member #116

05-31-2002, 11:04 PM	#19
andy669 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Moline Il Posts: 901	Engine Coolant Temp: I cant remember exactly where it is. I think it just screws in to the lower. andy __________________ 88 coupe 91 LX NMRA Pure Street 5120

05-31-2002, 11:15 PM	#20
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	it screws into the coolant tranfer tube that feeds the heater core hoses. cant miss it. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

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