MAC headers and off road H for $300. Good Deal?

SCOTTLT79 · 07-10-2002, 07:32 AM

Hey guys,
I got about $700 I was planning on putting into my car and I wanted to put it towards exhaust right now.
I got this guy who will sell me a set of unequal length shorty headers and an off road H-pipe, both from MAC, for about $300. I don't know how much they go for or how good of a product MAC is in that area. Please help me out with this guys, I don't have much time to waste.

Also, how much should it cost for installation? I know I can do the h-pipe but I don't know if I want to mess around with the headers quite yet. And the new headers will also make tune-ups even more difficult, won't they?

Thanks guys
Scott

avbcon12 · 07-10-2002, 08:31 AM

no, that is not a good deal. new they are $150 for the headers and $120 for the h-pipe. so $270 brand new. if the parts you are looking at getting are used or dont include shipping then dont buy them...

get them through JD's performance; http://www.jdsperformance.com/

although MAC products arent anybody's first choice due to poor quality...

take care,
adam

SCOTTLT79 · 07-10-2002, 08:38 AM

well, that does include shipping but I don't want to buy them if they are not good quality. someone let me know, especially if you have any experience with them.

thanks

SCOTTLT79 · 07-10-2002, 09:55 AM

also, if you guys don't think I should go mac or even hold out on the headers altogether, what do you think I should spend my moeny on. I see that jds performance has the trickflow upper and lower intake manifolds for about $365. Do you think maybe I should go that way or where should I go. Also, please include installation costs on difficult jobs(dont forget, I'm a beginner at this stuff).

HiFlow5 0 · 07-10-2002, 11:12 AM

Gears and then exhaust! Those are the first things that should be done to any stock stang. Don't worry about fancy intakes at this point! If you don't already have a good set of gears that would be the first thing to do. Stay away from mac headers! I had a set of mac headers and hated the way mac uses individual flanges on the headers, they warp and never fit properly. Just got my solid BBK's installed and they were much easier! I do have a mac h-pipe and haven't had a problem with that.

SCOTTLT79 · 07-10-2002, 11:31 AM

The only problem with the gears is that I do a lot of highway driving to and from work, at least 45 mnutes each way depending on traffic. I already spend enough on gas and don't know how much that would cost me.
What do you guys think?

HiFlow5 0 · 07-10-2002, 11:37 AM

When I went from 2:73's to 3:73's I didn't notice that big of a difference. Of couse there will be some difference in milage, just it was minimal in my case.

SCOTTLT79 · 07-10-2002, 11:41 AM

hey Hiflow,
I just graduated UMASS so I was only a few minutes from you for a whlie.

OK, so i'm estimating gears to be around $400 installed and I'll pick up an off road H for probably a little more than $100. If i'm wrong, fill me in. I'll install the H myself but there is no way in hell that i'm messin with the gears.

Skyman · 07-10-2002, 01:25 PM

I got my mac headers for $99 new, and H pipe for $99new.

BAD DEAL!

Chevyguy · 07-10-2002, 01:47 PM

Scott, it seems that you have a 5 speed. For a street driven car that you will not be racing at the track, the gears won't be that big of a deal. The 3.35 first gear in the T-5 gets the car moving pretty good even with the 2.73's. For around town driving you will not see much of a mpg drop going to 3.55 or 3.73 gears as you will be able to use 5 th gear more often. For straight highway driving you will turn more rpm's and burn more gas.

I still may go to 3.27 or 3.55 gears down the road, especially if I end up getting a T-5Z with the 2.95 first gear.

explicitone · 07-10-2002, 02:24 PM

I have the mac h-pipe and I love it but I dont have the headers I have flow tech headers
with shipping if those are new not used parts thats not bad but I think you should be able to find cheaper.

07-10-2002, 07:32 AM	#1
SCOTTLT79 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Raynham, Ma, USA Posts: 189	MAC headers and off road H for $300. Good Deal? Hey guys, I got about $700 I was planning on putting into my car and I wanted to put it towards exhaust right now. I got this guy who will sell me a set of unequal length shorty headers and an off road H-pipe, both from MAC, for about $300. I don't know how much they go for or how good of a product MAC is in that area. Please help me out with this guys, I don't have much time to waste. Also, how much should it cost for installation? I know I can do the h-pipe but I don't know if I want to mess around with the headers quite yet. And the new headers will also make tune-ups even more difficult, won't they? Thanks guys Scott __________________ 95 Red Mustang GT Pro 5.0, MAC fenderwall cold air induction kit, BBK Off-Road H-pipe with Magnaflow cat-back system Mostly stock(looking to modify) Rice Haters Club Member #63

07-10-2002, 08:31 AM	#2
avbcon12 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 391	no, that is not a good deal. new they are $150 for the headers and $120 for the h-pipe. so $270 brand new. if the parts you are looking at getting are used or dont include shipping then dont buy them... get them through JD's performance; http://www.jdsperformance.com/ although MAC products arent anybody's first choice due to poor quality... take care, adam __________________ 90 GT black/ grey leather ported GT-40 heads w/ 1.7RR, Cobra intake w/ ported lower, 24# injectors, 190LPH pump, 75mm Pro-M MAF, 65mm TB, K&N panel, BBK long tubes, Off road H-pipe, 2 ch. Flowmaster, Black magic fan, Kirban FPR, 180 deg. T-stat, 3.73's, Steeda Tri-Ax, 130 amp alt. Accell 8.8 race wires/cap/rotor, motorcraft plugs, Factory Five suspension, etc etc etc.... http://avbcon12.stangnet.com

07-10-2002, 08:38 AM	#3
SCOTTLT79 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Raynham, Ma, USA Posts: 189	well, that does include shipping but I don't want to buy them if they are not good quality. someone let me know, especially if you have any experience with them. thanks __________________ 95 Red Mustang GT Pro 5.0, MAC fenderwall cold air induction kit, BBK Off-Road H-pipe with Magnaflow cat-back system Mostly stock(looking to modify) Rice Haters Club Member #63

07-10-2002, 09:55 AM	#4
SCOTTLT79 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Raynham, Ma, USA Posts: 189	also, if you guys don't think I should go mac or even hold out on the headers altogether, what do you think I should spend my moeny on. I see that jds performance has the trickflow upper and lower intake manifolds for about $365. Do you think maybe I should go that way or where should I go. Also, please include installation costs on difficult jobs(dont forget, I'm a beginner at this stuff). __________________ 95 Red Mustang GT Pro 5.0, MAC fenderwall cold air induction kit, BBK Off-Road H-pipe with Magnaflow cat-back system Mostly stock(looking to modify) Rice Haters Club Member #63

07-10-2002, 11:12 AM	#5
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	Gears and then exhaust! Those are the first things that should be done to any stock stang. Don't worry about fancy intakes at this point! If you don't already have a good set of gears that would be the first thing to do. Stay away from mac headers! I had a set of mac headers and hated the way mac uses individual flanges on the headers, they warp and never fit properly. Just got my solid BBK's installed and they were much easier! I do have a mac h-pipe and haven't had a problem with that. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

07-10-2002, 11:31 AM	#6
SCOTTLT79 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Raynham, Ma, USA Posts: 189	The only problem with the gears is that I do a lot of highway driving to and from work, at least 45 mnutes each way depending on traffic. I already spend enough on gas and don't know how much that would cost me. What do you guys think? __________________ 95 Red Mustang GT Pro 5.0, MAC fenderwall cold air induction kit, BBK Off-Road H-pipe with Magnaflow cat-back system Mostly stock(looking to modify) Rice Haters Club Member #63

07-10-2002, 11:37 AM	#7
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	When I went from 2:73's to 3:73's I didn't notice that big of a difference. Of couse there will be some difference in milage, just it was minimal in my case. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

07-10-2002, 11:41 AM	#8
SCOTTLT79 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Raynham, Ma, USA Posts: 189	hey Hiflow, I just graduated UMASS so I was only a few minutes from you for a whlie. OK, so i'm estimating gears to be around $400 installed and I'll pick up an off road H for probably a little more than $100. If i'm wrong, fill me in. I'll install the H myself but there is no way in hell that i'm messin with the gears.

07-10-2002, 01:25 PM	#9
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I got my mac headers for $99 new, and H pipe for $99new. BAD DEAL! __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

07-10-2002, 01:47 PM	#10
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	Scott, it seems that you have a 5 speed. For a street driven car that you will not be racing at the track, the gears won't be that big of a deal. The 3.35 first gear in the T-5 gets the car moving pretty good even with the 2.73's. For around town driving you will not see much of a mpg drop going to 3.55 or 3.73 gears as you will be able to use 5 th gear more often. For straight highway driving you will turn more rpm's and burn more gas. I still may go to 3.27 or 3.55 gears down the road, especially if I end up getting a T-5Z with the 2.95 first gear. __________________ 2001 Crown Vic Maurader Airbox/MAF, DR chip Edel IAS shocks Single exhaust :wtf: 93 P-71 Vic interceptor Backup car now 90 5.0 LX Notch SOLD 74 Chevy Laguna type S-3 454 under construction Currently apart undergoing bodywork.

07-10-2002, 02:24 PM	#11
explicitone Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: racine ,wi Posts: 691	I have the mac h-pipe and I love it but I dont have the headers I have flow tech headers with shipping if those are new not used parts thats not bad but I think you should be able to find cheaper. __________________ RUN IT STAIGHT AND RUN IT HARD ________ Novi 2000 60' 1.46 1/4 10.67 mph 126.5 _________