Any difference between the Holley and the Weiand?

chris91LX · 12-30-2001, 10:48 AM

Is there any difference between the Holley intake and the Weiand Stealth intake? I've seen the Weiand in the Summit catalog and it sure looks like the Holley. And is the $579.95 for the Weiand intake about as good a price as I can get? Anybody know where I can get a deal on the Holley/Weiand intake.

Phantom5oh · 12-30-2001, 10:57 AM

Well Holley owns Weiand, so the intakes are probably pretty darn close if not exact except for the names on them...

If you find it in Summit or Jeg's then its pretty hard to beat there prices... they are kind of the industry standard for low prices...

Steve

Mach 1 · 12-30-2001, 12:28 PM

I would say they are the same thing. It/they are expensive. Look through all the mag ads, I think ive seen the holley for as low as $550?

Are u sure you want the holley? I believe the ports are huge and dont match up to any aftermarket head without porting the head, although I guess it works damn good without gasket matching anyway, from what Ive heard.

I was in the same dilema, and decided on a performer rpm. Better looking, lighter, easier install, smaller ports for proper head alignment, removable cover, cheaper, etc...

1BAD89 · 12-30-2001, 10:58 PM

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I would say they are the same thing. It/they are expensive. Look through all the mag ads, I think ive seen the holley for as low as $550?

What people don't realize is they might advertise for $550 but shipping is probaly around $20+ from them. Summit has GREAT prices and you can 2 day it guaranteed for like $6.95, you can't beat that.

LittleBlueStang · 12-31-2001, 07:08 AM

I read an intake shootout not too long ago, and it seemed like the Holley/Weiand intake kicked major butt. If I'm not mistaken, it read the highest numbers between it, the gt-40, trickflow, cobra, and edelbrock. Seems like they mentioned something about the size of the ports too....like how they were shaped or how big they were. Can't remember, but they had alot of good things to say about it though.

Mach 1 · 12-31-2001, 10:37 AM

The holleys a great intake, but it not the best choice for everyone. Do you remember where you read the intake shootout at? I would like to see it.

exgmguy · 12-31-2001, 11:30 AM

They are the same intake.

The intake shootout was in a rag a few months back. I'm not sure which one.

Mach 1 · 12-31-2001, 12:59 PM

just my luck, i let my subscriptions run out, and they finally print something good....

MikeWeber · 12-31-2001, 01:45 PM

It was a shootout between the TFS-R, Holley Systemax, and Edelbrock Victor 5.0 with a GT-40 as a baseline. The motor was a 11.5 CR Coast 347 using a Comp Cams Extreme Energy 292H solid roller cam (254/260@0.050 and .621/.627 lift with a 110 lobe center). The throttle body was 75-mm. The heads were milled AFR 185's for the 11.5 CR on 10.5 CR pistons. It utilized 36lb injectors, a Pro-M 77mm mass air meter, MSD ignition, an electric water pump, and 1-3/4 full length Hooker headers.

It's a very hot street motor with the compression and solid roller cam but the Holley boxstock was the best all around intake on this particular combination. For a 302-310 motor, it's good for 7000 rpm unported without the torque losses of the Victor 5.0 or even the TFS-R. It's definitely not the best intake for an unported head street motor. But for a hot cammed, ported head, 6500 rpm street/strip car, it kicks butt. The full article was in the January 2001 edition of MM&FF.

Mach 1 · 12-31-2001, 02:34 PM

thanks,
good info. That was a few months ago all-right, quite a few.

If the holley intake rules so much, why in the world dont they make a 351 base?

faststang90 · 12-31-2001, 02:39 PM

it was in5.0 mustang &superfords displayed till 08/21/01
baseline = 422.1 tor 357.4hp
performer5.0 =432tor 409hp
rpm=430 419hp
trick flow street433 404hp
track heat 431 418hp
r trick 417 423hp
holley 431 433hp
then they put a 3inch pipe on the holley and it did 438 tor & 446 hp they used 30 injs on all the intakes

i have a holley and love it its worth every penny. hope this helps

Mach 1 · 12-31-2001, 02:48 PM

thats funny, i had a subscription to that mag at that time, but I dont remember that article. thanks

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 12-31-2001, 03:05 PM

I believe it was Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords. They tested them on a CHP 347 with like 10:1 compression. Im not sure what month it was... maybe last October? Not sure.

Later

faststang90 · 12-31-2001, 03:37 PM

here is the page

Mach 1 · 12-31-2001, 08:12 PM

Is that "baseline" manifold the gt40? If so, the edelbrock performer blows it away. I thought those two manifolds were supposed to be very close?

faststang90 · 01-01-2002, 04:27 AM

no it was not a gt40 it was a unbalanced performer5.0 after the baseline they use a balanced intake each runner was within 1 percent on all the other intakes

Mach 1 · 01-01-2002, 11:07 AM

So the intakes were not "box stock", but ported and balanced?

12-30-2001, 10:48 AM	#1
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	Any difference between the Holley and the Weiand? Is there any difference between the Holley intake and the Weiand Stealth intake? I've seen the Weiand in the Summit catalog and it sure looks like the Holley. And is the $579.95 for the Weiand intake about as good a price as I can get? Anybody know where I can get a deal on the Holley/Weiand intake. __________________ My Ford Club http://www.midwestfords.org/ Best time N/A 12.9 @ 107 1.711 60' 125 shot - 12.04 @ 113 1.59 60'

12-30-2001, 10:57 AM	#2
Phantom5oh Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 334	Well Holley owns Weiand, so the intakes are probably pretty darn close if not exact except for the names on them... If you find it in Summit or Jeg's then its pretty hard to beat there prices... they are kind of the industry standard for low prices... Steve __________________ 95 GTS 03 DR 650SE Sgarzi's Machine Works

12-30-2001, 12:28 PM	#3
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	I would say they are the same thing. It/they are expensive. Look through all the mag ads, I think ive seen the holley for as low as $550? Are u sure you want the holley? I believe the ports are huge and dont match up to any aftermarket head without porting the head, although I guess it works damn good without gasket matching anyway, from what Ive heard. I was in the same dilema, and decided on a performer rpm. Better looking, lighter, easier install, smaller ports for proper head alignment, removable cover, cheaper, etc... __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

12-31-2001, 07:08 AM	#5
LittleBlueStang Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Augusta, MI Posts: 24	I read an intake shootout not too long ago, and it seemed like the Holley/Weiand intake kicked major butt. If I'm not mistaken, it read the highest numbers between it, the gt-40, trickflow, cobra, and edelbrock. Seems like they mentioned something about the size of the ports too....like how they were shaped or how big they were. Can't remember, but they had alot of good things to say about it though. __________________ sleepers have more fun (That's a stock intake, really.)

12-31-2001, 10:37 AM	#6
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	The holleys a great intake, but it not the best choice for everyone. Do you remember where you read the intake shootout at? I would like to see it. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

12-31-2001, 11:30 AM	#7
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	They are the same intake. The intake shootout was in a rag a few months back. I'm not sure which one. __________________ 1988 Mustang GT stock bottom 302, C4 10.9 @ 128 with 8 psi of Novi 1000 boost!----STOLEN 1989 Mustang notchback Warmed up 306 with a Procharger.

12-31-2001, 12:59 PM	#8
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	just my luck, i let my subscriptions run out, and they finally print something good.... __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

12-31-2001, 01:45 PM	#9
MikeWeber Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Louisville, KY, USA Posts: 48	It was a shootout between the TFS-R, Holley Systemax, and Edelbrock Victor 5.0 with a GT-40 as a baseline. The motor was a 11.5 CR Coast 347 using a Comp Cams Extreme Energy 292H solid roller cam (254/260@0.050 and .621/.627 lift with a 110 lobe center). The throttle body was 75-mm. The heads were milled AFR 185's for the 11.5 CR on 10.5 CR pistons. It utilized 36lb injectors, a Pro-M 77mm mass air meter, MSD ignition, an electric water pump, and 1-3/4 full length Hooker headers. It's a very hot street motor with the compression and solid roller cam but the Holley boxstock was the best all around intake on this particular combination. For a 302-310 motor, it's good for 7000 rpm unported without the torque losses of the Victor 5.0 or even the TFS-R. It's definitely not the best intake for an unported head street motor. But for a hot cammed, ported head, 6500 rpm street/strip car, it kicks butt. The full article was in the January 2001 edition of MM&FF. __________________ 88 NMRA Pure Street coupe 95 GT-heads, cam, exhaust, intake, road-race suspension 97 Taurus SHO-K&N, ported meter 95 Escort GT-Pacesetter header & exhaust, Weapon R intake tube

12-31-2001, 02:34 PM	#10
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	thanks, good info. That was a few months ago all-right, quite a few. If the holley intake rules so much, why in the world dont they make a 351 base? __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

12-31-2001, 02:39 PM	#11
faststang90 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: baytown,tx,us Posts: 128	intake shoot out it was in5.0 mustang &superfords displayed till 08/21/01 baseline = 422.1 tor 357.4hp performer5.0 =432tor 409hp rpm=430 419hp trick flow street433 404hp track heat 431 418hp r trick 417 423hp holley 431 433hp then they put a 3inch pipe on the holley and it did 438 tor & 446 hp they used 30 injs on all the intakes i have a holley and love it its worth every penny. hope this helps

12-31-2001, 02:48 PM	#12
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	thats funny, i had a subscription to that mag at that time, but I dont remember that article. thanks __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

12-31-2001, 03:05 PM	#13
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	I believe it was Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords. They tested them on a CHP 347 with like 10:1 compression. Im not sure what month it was... maybe last October? Not sure. Later __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

12-31-2001, 08:12 PM	#15
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Is that "baseline" manifold the gt40? If so, the edelbrock performer blows it away. I thought those two manifolds were supposed to be very close? __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

01-01-2002, 04:27 AM	#16
faststang90 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: baytown,tx,us Posts: 128	intake no it was not a gt40 it was a unbalanced performer5.0 after the baseline they use a balanced intake each runner was within 1 percent on all the other intakes

01-01-2002, 11:07 AM	#17
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	So the intakes were not "box stock", but ported and balanced? __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142