need 5.0 cheap tricks

4.7L-stang · 01-16-2003, 08:00 PM

Me and the founding members of a local car club just got our hands on a 5.0 fox body with a 5 speed. This is the groups project car. Seeing how we are all seniors in high school, we don't have money to blow. We need to know what the cheapest upgrades are that will give us the most "bang-for-our-buck."

-Thanks

mustanggt_50 · 01-16-2003, 08:36 PM

bump the timing(14-15deg), remove air silencer, put a short belt on it, take weight out of it(rear seats, sound deadener and useless crap)

mustanggt_50 · 01-16-2003, 08:38 PM

i forgot to add rear gears, those give you the most bang for the buck i'd say!!! good luck on the car.

90LxDroptop · 01-17-2003, 09:47 AM

get rid of that heavy A/C. throw the battery in the trunk. it will help with weight transfer, and from what I hear get some 4 cyl springs.

bigred90gt · 01-17-2003, 10:08 AM

In addition to the 4 cyl springs, remove the sway bar, carpet, unless you want the look of the carpet, and get some nitrous. If all of you go in on the spray, it'll be relatively cheap per person.

Caymon

4.7L-stang · 01-17-2003, 10:34 PM

ok thanks for the help, this will give us a place to start.

Nixon1 · 01-17-2003, 10:46 PM

I'm new to this group...just picked up a 91 5.0. I'm one of the founding members in the car club 4.7L referred to... So anyways..question..isn't 14-15 degrees a hell of a lot of timing to run on a V8 without giving her some premium unleaded? Dunno about the Mustangs but Camaro V8's are stock with only 6 degrees and would knock and ping like crazy at 10+ I'm sure.

mustanggt_50 · 01-17-2003, 11:01 PM

well 10 degrees is the factory setting on the 5.0, but yeah if you run 14-15 you should run premium gas, and it will work better.

Nixon1 · 01-17-2003, 11:04 PM

Wow..these 5.0's run as much timing as my 3.1 V6 did....

chickendreamer · 01-18-2003, 12:36 PM

Underdrive pullies are usually a good bang for your buck. Check out http://www.mustangworks.com/articles/, there are some good articles there. Good luck

Mustang_GT_90 · 01-18-2003, 04:45 PM

Another cool trick is to take the spout connector out and run your timing at around 36 degrees. I did that and it got me .3 in the 1/4 but my computer wants to retard the timing on me.
The easiest thing you can do to get it going fast is take stuff off you don't need and get it lighter.
If it's gonna be a drag only car kill the power steering and A/C and use a short belt between the alternator and water pump. A cheepo autozone electric fan should be able to cool it along with a 160 degree cheby thermostat.
Kill off all the smog pump stuff if you can, drop the front sway bar. Take the inner bumper supports out, remove all the carpet padding.
Then just take it to the track and put it on a set of slicks and launch it from about 4500-5000 and you should be moving along pretty good.

01-16-2003, 08:00 PM	#1
4.7L-stang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 29	need 5.0 cheap tricks Me and the founding members of a local car club just got our hands on a 5.0 fox body with a 5 speed. This is the groups project car. Seeing how we are all seniors in high school, we don't have money to blow. We need to know what the cheapest upgrades are that will give us the most "bang-for-our-buck." -Thanks __________________ Der zwei achtzig neun 65' Stang 302 / Holley 4v / Edelbrock ProFlow air cleaner / FlowTech Headers / Aftermarket duel exhust / H-Pipe / Performance Cam

01-16-2003, 08:36 PM	#2
mustanggt_50 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 91	bump the timing(14-15deg), remove air silencer, put a short belt on it, take weight out of it(rear seats, sound deadener and useless crap) __________________ 87 GT T-roof (needs paint) lol, rebuilt motor and trans, AOD - stage 2 shift kit, 3.73 gears - auburn posi, Dynomax Super Turbo Cat Back, FRPP 155lph fuel pump, K&N filter - air silencer removed, subframe connectors, strut tower brace. 88 GT T-roof 1989 LX Coupe 5.0 - 5spd Rice Haters Club member#105

01-16-2003, 08:38 PM	#3
mustanggt_50 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 91	i forgot to add rear gears, those give you the most bang for the buck i'd say!!! good luck on the car. __________________ 87 GT T-roof (needs paint) lol, rebuilt motor and trans, AOD - stage 2 shift kit, 3.73 gears - auburn posi, Dynomax Super Turbo Cat Back, FRPP 155lph fuel pump, K&N filter - air silencer removed, subframe connectors, strut tower brace. 88 GT T-roof 1989 LX Coupe 5.0 - 5spd Rice Haters Club member#105

01-17-2003, 09:47 AM	#4
90LxDroptop Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arlington Hts. IL Posts: 315	get rid of that heavy A/C. throw the battery in the trunk. it will help with weight transfer, and from what I hear get some 4 cyl springs. __________________ 90 LX Convertible 5.0 AOD 3.73 Gears, Underdrive Pulleys, TransGo shift kit, A servo, Subframe Connectors, o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows, Pony Wheels

01-17-2003, 10:08 AM	#5
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	In addition to the 4 cyl springs, remove the sway bar, carpet, unless you want the look of the carpet, and get some nitrous. If all of you go in on the spray, it'll be relatively cheap per person. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

01-17-2003, 10:34 PM	#6
4.7L-stang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 29	ok thanks for the help, this will give us a place to start. __________________ Der zwei achtzig neun 65' Stang 302 / Holley 4v / Edelbrock ProFlow air cleaner / FlowTech Headers / Aftermarket duel exhust / H-Pipe / Performance Cam

01-17-2003, 10:46 PM	#7
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	I'm new to this group...just picked up a 91 5.0. I'm one of the founding members in the car club 4.7L referred to... So anyways..question..isn't 14-15 degrees a hell of a lot of timing to run on a V8 without giving her some premium unleaded? Dunno about the Mustangs but Camaro V8's are stock with only 6 degrees and would knock and ping like crazy at 10+ I'm sure. __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

01-17-2003, 11:01 PM	#8
mustanggt_50 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 91	well 10 degrees is the factory setting on the 5.0, but yeah if you run 14-15 you should run premium gas, and it will work better. __________________ 87 GT T-roof (needs paint) lol, rebuilt motor and trans, AOD - stage 2 shift kit, 3.73 gears - auburn posi, Dynomax Super Turbo Cat Back, FRPP 155lph fuel pump, K&N filter - air silencer removed, subframe connectors, strut tower brace. 88 GT T-roof 1989 LX Coupe 5.0 - 5spd Rice Haters Club member#105

01-17-2003, 11:04 PM	#9
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	Wow..these 5.0's run as much timing as my 3.1 V6 did.... __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

01-18-2003, 12:36 PM	#10
chickendreamer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 53	Underdrive pullies are usually a good bang for your buck. Check out http://www.mustangworks.com/articles/, there are some good articles there. Good luck __________________ Chicken Dreamer 1995 Mustang GT

01-18-2003, 04:45 PM	#11
Mustang_GT_90 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 68	Another cool trick is to take the spout connector out and run your timing at around 36 degrees. I did that and it got me .3 in the 1/4 but my computer wants to retard the timing on me. The easiest thing you can do to get it going fast is take stuff off you don't need and get it lighter. If it's gonna be a drag only car kill the power steering and A/C and use a short belt between the alternator and water pump. A cheepo autozone electric fan should be able to cool it along with a 160 degree cheby thermostat. Kill off all the smog pump stuff if you can, drop the front sway bar. Take the inner bumper supports out, remove all the carpet padding. Then just take it to the track and put it on a set of slicks and launch it from about 4500-5000 and you should be moving along pretty good. __________________ 90 Mustang, full weight, 5 speed, pulleys, 3.73 gears... 13.33@101 mph on stock motor and DOT's 12.44@112.5 on the juice. Check out our clubs website at http://www.stanggang.com

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