the worst thing happened!!! bad.

Chevysucks · 04-02-2003, 11:44 PM

Well I sold my 88 lx to my friend and he has had it for about a week. It needs a rear main seal and he knows that. Well today I went over to his house and he told me to listen to it because it was ****ed up. It sounds like pushrod tapping three times louder. I told him to look how much oil was on the dipstick. I was like 2-3 inches above the full line. He then told me that he added like two or three quarts of oil because he though that it was burning oil bad. Well it must of not been burning too much oil if it was that far over the full line. He didnt even check where it was on the dipstick before he filled it.
This really makes me mad, because I loved that car and I didn't want to get rid of it in the first place. But anyway we were trying to figure it out and someone said that it might be the main bearings, but I dont see how adding too much oil would screw them up. Also we took the valve covers off and he started it and no oil was flying out(shouldn't it be flying out?) And through the small hole in the head were the oil is supposed to come from smoke comes out of it.

If any of you guys could tell me what it might be, it would help me out allot.
thanks.

Kevin Price · 04-03-2003, 09:44 AM

I would drain the oil completely and put the CORRECT amount in. If you have a magnet let the oil drain over it as it flows into the pan. It will pick out any metal and tell you if its a bearing, which I doubt.

What is the oil pressure? If it was filled up extensively the crank was probaby hitting the oil. Drain it and refill it first, then go from there

Chevysucks · 04-03-2003, 10:05 AM

im sorry I forgot to mention that we did drain the oil and put the correct amount in and it is the same as when it had to much oil.
He really screwed something up and I want to know what it is but have no clue at all

93GTDIN · 04-03-2003, 12:28 PM

whatever it is, i promise its bad =)

V8Mustang · 04-03-2003, 03:24 PM

Oil should come out of the hole in the rocker from the pushrod. On a cold engine, I've seen it take 2-3 minutes for oil to squirt out of those holes. Sounds like you do not have oil pressure at the cam, or possibly none at all. What does the pressure gauge read?

fiveohpatrol · 04-03-2003, 03:33 PM

what is the oil pressure at?

if it doesnt have an aftermarket gage, then go get one.

Chevysucks · 04-03-2003, 11:53 PM

it only has the stock oil pressure gauge in it and i don't know what it reads, I will have to ask him tomarrow.

Could it possibly be that the oil pump stoped working and it is too late to save?

IMPULSERACING · 04-04-2003, 09:15 AM

Hook up a gauge and see if you have oil pressure. If not he may have snaped his oil pump drive shaft. Its actually pretty common on 302's. If that is the case ARP makes a hardened one for like $10.00 but have fun putting it in.

Chevysucks · 04-05-2003, 11:53 AM

would the oil pump drive shaft be making a loud ticking noise though?

fiveohpatrol · 04-05-2003, 01:02 PM

no the shaft wouldnt be making the noise, but the lack of oil on the bearings, rockers, and other moving parts sure would make alot of knocking

thats happened to me before, and it destroyed the bearings. So check the pressure, and if there's none, then its time to pull the motor, replace the bearings, oilpump, pickup and shaft. And inspect the crank for damage.

04-02-2003, 11:44 PM	#1
Chevysucks Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Stroudsburg, PA, USA Posts: 150	the worst thing happened!!! bad. Well I sold my 88 lx to my friend and he has had it for about a week. It needs a rear main seal and he knows that. Well today I went over to his house and he told me to listen to it because it was ****ed up. It sounds like pushrod tapping three times louder. I told him to look how much oil was on the dipstick. I was like 2-3 inches above the full line. He then told me that he added like two or three quarts of oil because he though that it was burning oil bad. Well it must of not been burning too much oil if it was that far over the full line. He didnt even check where it was on the dipstick before he filled it. This really makes me mad, because I loved that car and I didn't want to get rid of it in the first place. But anyway we were trying to figure it out and someone said that it might be the main bearings, but I dont see how adding too much oil would screw them up. Also we took the valve covers off and he started it and no oil was flying out(shouldn't it be flying out?) And through the small hole in the head were the oil is supposed to come from smoke comes out of it. If any of you guys could tell me what it might be, it would help me out allot. thanks. __________________ 88 Stang 306 ci. GT Mustang heads- ported and polished/milled---Soon to be AFR 185cc 1.7 crane roller rockers/extra hardened pushrods FRPP X-303 Cam Stock Intake-1 inch intake spacer BBK Cold Air Induction Stock Injectors--going to 24 pounders BBK Full Length Headers Mac 2.5 inch Cat-Back 8 Point Cage Sub Frame Connectors World Class T-5 Steeda Shift Cable,Quadrant,Firewall adjuster King Cobra Clutch Pro 5.0 Shifter Alunimum Driveshaft/ Drive shaft loop Kenny Brown suspension 3.55 gears

04-03-2003, 09:44 AM	#2
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	I would drain the oil completely and put the CORRECT amount in. If you have a magnet let the oil drain over it as it flows into the pan. It will pick out any metal and tell you if its a bearing, which I doubt. What is the oil pressure? If it was filled up extensively the crank was probaby hitting the oil. Drain it and refill it first, then go from there __________________ 2001 Mustang "Mach 1" SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide. Best 1/4 ET 9.17 (ALL MOTOR) Best 1/4 MPH 147 My Car

04-03-2003, 10:05 AM	#3
Chevysucks Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Stroudsburg, PA, USA Posts: 150	im sorry I forgot to mention that we did drain the oil and put the correct amount in and it is the same as when it had to much oil. He really screwed something up and I want to know what it is but have no clue at all __________________ 88 Stang 306 ci. GT Mustang heads- ported and polished/milled---Soon to be AFR 185cc 1.7 crane roller rockers/extra hardened pushrods FRPP X-303 Cam Stock Intake-1 inch intake spacer BBK Cold Air Induction Stock Injectors--going to 24 pounders BBK Full Length Headers Mac 2.5 inch Cat-Back 8 Point Cage Sub Frame Connectors World Class T-5 Steeda Shift Cable,Quadrant,Firewall adjuster King Cobra Clutch Pro 5.0 Shifter Alunimum Driveshaft/ Drive shaft loop Kenny Brown suspension 3.55 gears

04-03-2003, 12:28 PM	#4
93GTDIN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Live music capital of the world, TX Posts: 324	whatever it is, i promise its bad =) __________________ 96 Cobra - a bit too stock. 14.0 @ 101

04-03-2003, 03:24 PM	#5
V8Mustang Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NC Posts: 64	Oil should come out of the hole in the rocker from the pushrod. On a cold engine, I've seen it take 2-3 minutes for oil to squirt out of those holes. Sounds like you do not have oil pressure at the cam, or possibly none at all. What does the pressure gauge read? __________________ www.CRmotorsports.com Ford Performance Parts

04-03-2003, 03:33 PM	#6
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	what is the oil pressure at? if it doesnt have an aftermarket gage, then go get one. __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

04-03-2003, 11:53 PM	#7
Chevysucks Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Stroudsburg, PA, USA Posts: 150	it only has the stock oil pressure gauge in it and i don't know what it reads, I will have to ask him tomarrow. Could it possibly be that the oil pump stoped working and it is too late to save? __________________ 88 Stang 306 ci. GT Mustang heads- ported and polished/milled---Soon to be AFR 185cc 1.7 crane roller rockers/extra hardened pushrods FRPP X-303 Cam Stock Intake-1 inch intake spacer BBK Cold Air Induction Stock Injectors--going to 24 pounders BBK Full Length Headers Mac 2.5 inch Cat-Back 8 Point Cage Sub Frame Connectors World Class T-5 Steeda Shift Cable,Quadrant,Firewall adjuster King Cobra Clutch Pro 5.0 Shifter Alunimum Driveshaft/ Drive shaft loop Kenny Brown suspension 3.55 gears

04-04-2003, 09:15 AM	#8
IMPULSERACING Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: chicago,IL,USA Posts: 158	Hook up a gauge and see if you have oil pressure. If not he may have snaped his oil pump drive shaft. Its actually pretty common on 302's. If that is the case ARP makes a hardened one for like $10.00 but have fun putting it in. __________________ 92' LX Hatch (New Combo Coming Soon) Long-Tubes, Off-road H-Pipe, Pro-Dumps, Auburn Pro, 373:1, Strange Axels c-clip elims, control arms, supersubs, 50/50's, Moroso rear trick springs, no sway bars, 5-Lug Pro-Stars 3 1/2", 8 1/2 26x10.5" MT ET streets, N20 91' LX 5.0 Convertable: CobraR Hood, Cobra Spoiler, Cobra R Rims 2001 Expedition: Brush Guard, Clear Corners, Gen 1 Tail Lites, Carbin Fiber Dash Trim, Billet Aluminum A/C Knobs, Flame Gauges

04-05-2003, 11:53 AM	#9
Chevysucks Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Stroudsburg, PA, USA Posts: 150	would the oil pump drive shaft be making a loud ticking noise though? __________________ 88 Stang 306 ci. GT Mustang heads- ported and polished/milled---Soon to be AFR 185cc 1.7 crane roller rockers/extra hardened pushrods FRPP X-303 Cam Stock Intake-1 inch intake spacer BBK Cold Air Induction Stock Injectors--going to 24 pounders BBK Full Length Headers Mac 2.5 inch Cat-Back 8 Point Cage Sub Frame Connectors World Class T-5 Steeda Shift Cable,Quadrant,Firewall adjuster King Cobra Clutch Pro 5.0 Shifter Alunimum Driveshaft/ Drive shaft loop Kenny Brown suspension 3.55 gears

04-05-2003, 01:02 PM	#10
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	no the shaft wouldnt be making the noise, but the lack of oil on the bearings, rockers, and other moving parts sure would make alot of knocking thats happened to me before, and it destroyed the bearings. So check the pressure, and if there's none, then its time to pull the motor, replace the bearings, oilpump, pickup and shaft. And inspect the crank for damage. __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

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