equal or unequal

USMC302 · 10-08-2002, 11:35 AM

Thanks for all the info in advance!
Equal or unequal?????
I am currently running the unequals, I have a chance to get equals set for free, should I make the swap? There for the coupe.

5ohCOUPE · 10-08-2002, 12:28 PM

I would stay with the unequals. If you are gonna change headers you might as well go with long tubes. But then again you are getting the equals for free. Cant beat that. You might see a little more out of the equals but not much.

bigblockcoupe · 10-08-2002, 12:40 PM

you will see a little more with the equals and they sound a little more aggressive if your getting them for free swap'em out.

Scrapla · 10-08-2002, 02:56 PM

cant beat that for free but I have some and they were a pain to install but sounds nice.

USMC302 · 10-08-2002, 04:09 PM

Really? think I'll have to raise the motor to get them in?

bigblockcoupe · 10-08-2002, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scrapla
cant beat that for free but I have some and they were a pain to install but sounds nice.

no you only have to raise the motor for full lengths they are a little tight fitting but well worth the effort.

HiFlow5 0 · 10-08-2002, 05:18 PM

If the are free, take them. Then sell those piece of junk equals!! If you want more out a header go longtubes. I don't think its worth the hassle of installation for the little amount of gain you will get (on a modified motor). If the motor is fairly stock then its not worth it at all.

IMPULSERACING · 10-09-2002, 09:57 AM

Whats a little sweat for some extra ponies. I say throw them on and sell the unequals. It's really not that hard.

avbcon12 · 10-09-2002, 10:35 AM

get them, sell them, and buy yourself some nice longtubes. equal length shorties are too much of a hassle. ever change pulgs with them? you dont want to....

take care,
adam

USMC302 · 10-09-2002, 10:38 AM

I agree, especially since I am so close to the 11's. the 12.3 run was before the bumper and brackets were removed, before the power steering pump and lines were removed and before the battery was moved to the trunk. With the new weight distribution, headers, and less air in the drag radials I hope I can hit it.

USMC302 · 10-09-2002, 10:48 AM

OOps, forgot to say who I agreed with, it was impulsracer, because I am on a very very limited budget and don't have the money for the rest of the exhaust to fit the long tubes. However I do have the off road H-pipe on now, when I swap headers do you think I should go with the off road X-pipe? remember I am just looking for a couple tenths. I have the X pipe in the garage waiting for a home. I was told that the x-pipe is more power on top end and the h-pipe was more for low end....

IMPULSERACING · 10-09-2002, 10:53 AM

Another option is like avbcon said. Take them sell both shorties ($150-$200) Add a hundred and get yourself a set of BBK longtubes from summite (like $269??) You can pick up an offroad pipe for it used for $50-$75 That'll definetly help you top end. One more option is keep the exhaust you have, have two cut-outs ($40 each) welded in your h-pipe. You now have open full lengths at the track and full exhaust for the ride home.

USMC302 · 10-09-2002, 11:09 AM

Wouldn't running open exhaust with the cutouts kill torque and low end tremendously?

So what does everyone think now, equals with H or X?

IMPULSERACING · 10-09-2002, 11:22 AM

Yea it will lower your torque but it will also raise your top end horse. If you're running 12.30's now You will gain power and et with open headers (Not shorties)

Ackbar00 · 10-10-2002, 02:14 PM

Heh, Free is good. Put them on, your only out some of your time.

LX XLR8R · 10-10-2002, 03:19 PM

do not think you will go faster with no exhuats..302's love back pressure..you willl not gain the beni's of no exhaust inless you are forced induction or are running bigcubes, or high rpms..why loose all that tourque and have the same shift point?

and if you do put on the equals get ready to burn wires up like what..id sell em and get longtubes..

Ackbar00 · 10-15-2002, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LX XLR8R
do not think you will go faster with no exhuats..302's love back pressure..you willl not gain the beni's of no exhaust inless you are forced induction or are running bigcubes, or high rpms..why loose all that tourque and have the same shift point?

and if you do put on the equals get ready to burn wires up like what..id sell em and get longtubes..

Mine made 324 ftlbs at the wheels and my car has 1 3/8 MAC longtubes with full 3in. Exhaust with blowthrough Dynomax Race Mufflers. You wont lose that much. My car is proof.

10-08-2002, 11:35 AM	#1
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	equal or unequal Thanks for all the info in advance! Equal or unequal????? I am currently running the unequals, I have a chance to get equals set for free, should I make the swap? There for the coupe. __________________

10-08-2002, 12:28 PM	#2
5ohCOUPE Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ORANGE PARK FL. USA Posts: 208	I would stay with the unequals. If you are gonna change headers you might as well go with long tubes. But then again you are getting the equals for free. Cant beat that. You might see a little more out of the equals but not much. __________________ 91 LX COUPE, 3.73 gears, 2 1/2 inch H-Pipe, 1 5/8 MAC long tube headers, 73 MM C&L MAF, 70 MM MAC TB, LUNATI cam,1.7 TFS Rockers, TFS Track Heat heads, TFS Track Heat intake, T5 with PRO 5.0 shifter, Griffin aluminum radiator, Fluid Damper, SSM traction bars, 190 GPH in tank fuel pump. And more to come.

10-08-2002, 12:40 PM	#3
bigblockcoupe Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: broken arrow Posts: 212	you will see a little more with the equals and they sound a little more aggressive if your getting them for free swap'em out. __________________ Rice Haters Club member #68 '93 Cobra 10.20@135 '89 Gt Coupe 12.20@115

10-08-2002, 02:56 PM	#4
Scrapla Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 532	cant beat that for free but I have some and they were a pain to install but sounds nice. __________________ 90gt 347 and some bolt ons :-) RICE HATERS MEMBER #73

10-08-2002, 04:09 PM	#5
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	Really? think I'll have to raise the motor to get them in? __________________

10-08-2002, 05:18 PM	#7
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	If the are free, take them. Then sell those piece of junk equals!! If you want more out a header go longtubes. I don't think its worth the hassle of installation for the little amount of gain you will get (on a modified motor). If the motor is fairly stock then its not worth it at all. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

10-09-2002, 09:57 AM	#8
IMPULSERACING Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: chicago,IL,USA Posts: 158	Whats a little sweat for some extra ponies. I say throw them on and sell the unequals. It's really not that hard. __________________ 92' LX Hatch (New Combo Coming Soon) Long-Tubes, Off-road H-Pipe, Pro-Dumps, Auburn Pro, 373:1, Strange Axels c-clip elims, control arms, supersubs, 50/50's, Moroso rear trick springs, no sway bars, 5-Lug Pro-Stars 3 1/2", 8 1/2 26x10.5" MT ET streets, N20 91' LX 5.0 Convertable: CobraR Hood, Cobra Spoiler, Cobra R Rims 2001 Expedition: Brush Guard, Clear Corners, Gen 1 Tail Lites, Carbin Fiber Dash Trim, Billet Aluminum A/C Knobs, Flame Gauges

10-09-2002, 10:35 AM	#9
avbcon12 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 391	get them, sell them, and buy yourself some nice longtubes. equal length shorties are too much of a hassle. ever change pulgs with them? you dont want to.... take care, adam __________________ 90 GT black/ grey leather ported GT-40 heads w/ 1.7RR, Cobra intake w/ ported lower, 24# injectors, 190LPH pump, 75mm Pro-M MAF, 65mm TB, K&N panel, BBK long tubes, Off road H-pipe, 2 ch. Flowmaster, Black magic fan, Kirban FPR, 180 deg. T-stat, 3.73's, Steeda Tri-Ax, 130 amp alt. Accell 8.8 race wires/cap/rotor, motorcraft plugs, Factory Five suspension, etc etc etc.... http://avbcon12.stangnet.com

10-09-2002, 10:38 AM	#10
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	I agree, especially since I am so close to the 11's. the 12.3 run was before the bumper and brackets were removed, before the power steering pump and lines were removed and before the battery was moved to the trunk. With the new weight distribution, headers, and less air in the drag radials I hope I can hit it. __________________

10-09-2002, 10:48 AM	#11
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	OOps, forgot to say who I agreed with, it was impulsracer, because I am on a very very limited budget and don't have the money for the rest of the exhaust to fit the long tubes. However I do have the off road H-pipe on now, when I swap headers do you think I should go with the off road X-pipe? remember I am just looking for a couple tenths. I have the X pipe in the garage waiting for a home. I was told that the x-pipe is more power on top end and the h-pipe was more for low end.... __________________

10-09-2002, 10:53 AM	#12
IMPULSERACING Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: chicago,IL,USA Posts: 158	Another option is like avbcon said. Take them sell both shorties ($150-$200) Add a hundred and get yourself a set of BBK longtubes from summite (like $269??) You can pick up an offroad pipe for it used for $50-$75 That'll definetly help you top end. One more option is keep the exhaust you have, have two cut-outs ($40 each) welded in your h-pipe. You now have open full lengths at the track and full exhaust for the ride home. __________________ 92' LX Hatch (New Combo Coming Soon) Long-Tubes, Off-road H-Pipe, Pro-Dumps, Auburn Pro, 373:1, Strange Axels c-clip elims, control arms, supersubs, 50/50's, Moroso rear trick springs, no sway bars, 5-Lug Pro-Stars 3 1/2", 8 1/2 26x10.5" MT ET streets, N20 91' LX 5.0 Convertable: CobraR Hood, Cobra Spoiler, Cobra R Rims 2001 Expedition: Brush Guard, Clear Corners, Gen 1 Tail Lites, Carbin Fiber Dash Trim, Billet Aluminum A/C Knobs, Flame Gauges

10-09-2002, 11:09 AM	#13
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	Wouldn't running open exhaust with the cutouts kill torque and low end tremendously? So what does everyone think now, equals with H or X? __________________

10-09-2002, 11:22 AM	#14
IMPULSERACING Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: chicago,IL,USA Posts: 158	Yea it will lower your torque but it will also raise your top end horse. If you're running 12.30's now You will gain power and et with open headers (Not shorties) __________________ 92' LX Hatch (New Combo Coming Soon) Long-Tubes, Off-road H-Pipe, Pro-Dumps, Auburn Pro, 373:1, Strange Axels c-clip elims, control arms, supersubs, 50/50's, Moroso rear trick springs, no sway bars, 5-Lug Pro-Stars 3 1/2", 8 1/2 26x10.5" MT ET streets, N20 91' LX 5.0 Convertable: CobraR Hood, Cobra Spoiler, Cobra R Rims 2001 Expedition: Brush Guard, Clear Corners, Gen 1 Tail Lites, Carbin Fiber Dash Trim, Billet Aluminum A/C Knobs, Flame Gauges

10-10-2002, 02:14 PM	#15
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	Heh, Free is good. Put them on, your only out some of your time. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

10-10-2002, 03:19 PM	#16
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	do not think you will go faster with no exhuats..302's love back pressure..you willl not gain the beni's of no exhaust inless you are forced induction or are running bigcubes, or high rpms..why loose all that tourque and have the same shift point? and if you do put on the equals get ready to burn wires up like what..id sell em and get longtubes.. __________________ 95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once

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