fiveohpatrol's disheartening pictures

2FastLX · 05-09-2001, 12:51 PM

Here's the locked up pump.

And here is what locked it up. Any guesses as to what this is?

The pump shaft. It looks like a twizlers

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gray87GT · 05-09-2001, 12:59 PM

That looks a lot like the spacers in the stock Ford valve cover gaskets. They are located around the screw holes. When I did my heads I made sure I had all of them.

jimberg · 05-09-2001, 01:31 PM

Hmm, it sure looks like a dime to me.

Always remember to empty your pockets before leaning over the engine.

I'm not sure why you are comparing the dime to that other doohicky. I'm pretty sure a dime is dime sized.

Seriously, though, do you think epoxying screens over some of the oil passage inlets could have prevented that from happening? That really sucks. Did the cam gear get damaged, too?

2FastLX · 05-09-2001, 01:44 PM

That's not a spacer from a valve cover. A valve cover spacer has a hole through it for the bolt.

And for the funny guy above... the dime is actually quarter sized. Adjust your screen resolution and you will see LOL

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gray87GT · 05-09-2001, 02:01 PM

When I did my cam etc. swap in Feb, My stock FORD valve cover gaskets had one solid spacer on each side of every valve cover bolt hole. I bet you money that is what is in the picture. I know this cause my friend who helped me is a mechanic and he told me before I removed my valve covers to make sure I account for all the little spacers cause they are known to cause problems.

Rick 91GT · 05-09-2001, 03:09 PM

Ouch, sorry to hear that. I have no idea what that thing is and don't remeber them being in my stock valve cover gaskets, I'll look when I get home. Did it do anything to the distributor

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Dark Knight · 05-09-2001, 05:59 PM

it's a watch battery... from a timex commercial... takes a licking.. etc.. ;-)

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3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

Stang Runner · 05-09-2001, 07:19 PM

Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph

How much HP do you have and what is you top speed in 1st gear go to thanks.

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1988 LX 5.0 2.73 Gears, MAC Control arms, Steal Mounts, Mac Headers, X-pipe W\cats, Edelbrock cat\back, Ram air, K&N. MM Brake System Upgrade Package, MM Front Grip Package,H&R sport spings

2FastLX · 05-10-2001, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stang Runner:
Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph

How much HP do you have and what is you top speed in 1st gear go to thanks.

I don't have any idea what the top speed in 1st gear was. I never really paid attention. I do know from the RPM's and MPH on the highway in 5th gear that I had 2.73's. Not to mention the tag on the door said the same thing. I also have no idea what kinda HP I am pushing to the wheels. I'd guess somewhere between 270-280RWHP but that could be a bit of a wild guess too.

BTW, that time was with the passenger tire spinning and the car was driven by fiveohpatrol. The tranny went out before we could try any more runs to get it faster. It now has 3.73's in it so those times will be changing if I can ever get a good T5 to hold up in it

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Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph

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fiveohpatrol · 05-10-2001, 12:31 AM

the only thing i can think of is something from inside the pump or pickup, because something of that size doesnt seem like it would be able to get past the screen in the pickup, oh yah and the distibutor looked fine, but i will definately take a close inspection of it before i put it back in, thanks for posting the pics kevin

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88 Notchback 5.0, 3.73's, Ported E7's, Explorer int. w/ ported lower, pulleys, Crane 1.7's, BBK headers, off-road H-pipe, flowmasters, subframe connectors, 65mm TB, shift kit, March ram air kit, motorsport wires, MSD coil, upper and lower control arms, 155lph fuel pump, cheap 2800 stall, Crane Adj.FPR, best time- 13.99@99.75, not yet tested times after rockers,intake or ported heads

2FastLX · 05-10-2001, 12:53 AM

Call me Drew. That guy has a timing chain in stock. It's a Cloyds double roller and it's $23.95.

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Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph

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TheSloAod · 05-10-2001, 08:26 AM

2FastLx a stock T5 will hold up to your car without a problem. at fun ford weekend my friend went 10.70 with a stock T5 and he has made about 10 11.40 motor passes and the tranny isnt grinding yet.

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My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph

n20lx · 05-10-2001, 08:17 PM

Take a look at the pump. There is a a bypass valve in there that is about that big around in places but should be over an inch long. The only place it can come from is the pump or the distributor. You would be amazed at the stuff that will go through the screen but nothing like that. Look on the brigh side,you can at least identfy the parts.I lost a motor last year & never found a rod cap or all of the pump drive shaft (unless they were that pile of glitter in the pan).

302man · 05-10-2001, 09:08 PM

I know you guys cann't see it too well on the screen, but in person, that small piece that locked the pump up has directional wear marks on it. Similiar to how a valve tip get worn by a rocker arm. And yes it looks like it could be the same diameter as the "plunger" inside the oil pump. I noticed that a few days ago, but haven't had time to take it apart yet.....yet.

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n20lx · 05-11-2001, 08:53 PM

I thought it looked a lot like the top of a valve, but I figure you would have opened it up & saw valve train damage. If that is what it is, how do you bust the top off a valve & get it to the pump? (High rpm, bent valve & nitrous pops won't do it. done those..) I know the next time the intake is off I'm gonna epaxy some screens in to keep $hit out.

vetteeatr · 05-14-2001, 02:14 PM

Scary i had that damn thing in my pan to when my shaft got rpped to pieces. My lifter came undone somehow and stuff came out of it. I also had a small spring in the pan as well. I dont know what it was but my rocker arm and pushrod got an *** whoopin when i lost all my pressure.

05-09-2001, 12:51 PM	#1
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	fiveohpatrol's disheartening pictures Here's the locked up pump. And here is what locked it up. Any guesses as to what this is? The pump shaft. It looks like a twizlers ------------------ Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph Indiana Stangers Association Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241

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05-09-2001, 12:59 PM	#2
gray87GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 177	That looks a lot like the spacers in the stock Ford valve cover gaskets. They are located around the screw holes. When I did my heads I made sure I had all of them.

05-09-2001, 01:31 PM	#3
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	Hmm, it sure looks like a dime to me. Always remember to empty your pockets before leaning over the engine. I'm not sure why you are comparing the dime to that other doohicky. I'm pretty sure a dime is dime sized. Seriously, though, do you think epoxying screens over some of the oil passage inlets could have prevented that from happening? That really sucks. Did the cam gear get damaged, too?

05-09-2001, 01:44 PM	#4
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	That's not a spacer from a valve cover. A valve cover spacer has a hole through it for the bolt. And for the funny guy above... the dime is actually quarter sized. Adjust your screen resolution and you will see LOL ------------------ Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph Indiana Stangers Association Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241

05-09-2001, 02:01 PM	#5
gray87GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 177	When I did my cam etc. swap in Feb, My stock FORD valve cover gaskets had one solid spacer on each side of every valve cover bolt hole. I bet you money that is what is in the picture. I know this cause my friend who helped me is a mechanic and he told me before I removed my valve covers to make sure I account for all the little spacers cause they are known to cause problems.

05-09-2001, 03:09 PM	#6
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	Ouch, sorry to hear that. I have no idea what that thing is and don't remeber them being in my stock valve cover gaskets, I'll look when I get home. Did it do anything to the distributor ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!

05-09-2001, 05:59 PM	#7
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	it's a watch battery... from a timex commercial... takes a licking.. etc.. ;-) ------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart

05-09-2001, 07:19 PM	#8
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph How much HP do you have and what is you top speed in 1st gear go to thanks. ------------------ 1988 LX 5.0 2.73 Gears, MAC Control arms, Steal Mounts, Mac Headers, X-pipe W\cats, Edelbrock cat\back, Ram air, K&N. MM Brake System Upgrade Package, MM Front Grip Package,H&R sport spings

05-10-2001, 12:31 AM	#10
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	the only thing i can think of is something from inside the pump or pickup, because something of that size doesnt seem like it would be able to get past the screen in the pickup, oh yah and the distibutor looked fine, but i will definately take a close inspection of it before i put it back in, thanks for posting the pics kevin ------------------ 88 Notchback 5.0, 3.73's, Ported E7's, Explorer int. w/ ported lower, pulleys, Crane 1.7's, BBK headers, off-road H-pipe, flowmasters, subframe connectors, 65mm TB, shift kit, March ram air kit, motorsport wires, MSD coil, upper and lower control arms, 155lph fuel pump, cheap 2800 stall, Crane Adj.FPR, best time- 13.99@99.75, not yet tested times after rockers,intake or ported heads

05-10-2001, 12:53 AM	#11
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	Call me Drew. That guy has a timing chain in stock. It's a Cloyds double roller and it's $23.95. ------------------ Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph Indiana Stangers Association Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241

05-10-2001, 08:26 AM	#12
TheSloAod Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: baytown, tx usa Posts: 121	2FastLx a stock T5 will hold up to your car without a problem. at fun ford weekend my friend went 10.70 with a stock T5 and he has made about 10 11.40 motor passes and the tranny isnt grinding yet. ------------------ My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph

05-10-2001, 08:17 PM	#13
n20lx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 495	Take a look at the pump. There is a a bypass valve in there that is about that big around in places but should be over an inch long. The only place it can come from is the pump or the distributor. You would be amazed at the stuff that will go through the screen but nothing like that. Look on the brigh side,you can at least identfy the parts.I lost a motor last year & never found a rod cap or all of the pump drive shaft (unless they were that pile of glitter in the pan).

05-10-2001, 09:08 PM	#14
302man Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: INDIANAPOLIS Posts: 404	I know you guys cann't see it too well on the screen, but in person, that small piece that locked the pump up has directional wear marks on it. Similiar to how a valve tip get worn by a rocker arm. And yes it looks like it could be the same diameter as the "plunger" inside the oil pump. I noticed that a few days ago, but haven't had time to take it apart yet.....yet. ------------------ 302,vortech s trim @18-20lbs showing,edelbrock performer heads-o ringed,gt 40 upper&lower, mac 1 5/8"long tubes, sub frame connectors,50/50 rear, 70/30 front, manual rack,3:55 gears, c4 , best time 10.13@135mph

05-11-2001, 08:53 PM	#15
n20lx Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 495	I thought it looked a lot like the top of a valve, but I figure you would have opened it up & saw valve train damage. If that is what it is, how do you bust the top off a valve & get it to the pump? (High rpm, bent valve & nitrous pops won't do it. done those..) I know the next time the intake is off I'm gonna epaxy some screens in to keep $hit out.

05-14-2001, 02:14 PM	#16
vetteeatr Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Olney, Illinois, USA Posts: 212	Scary i had that damn thing in my pan to when my shaft got rpped to pieces. My lifter came undone somehow and stuff came out of it. I also had a small spring in the pan as well. I dont know what it was but my rocker arm and pushrod got an *** whoopin when i lost all my pressure.