Front Sway bar removal

SlowStang2 · 07-26-2001, 09:11 PM

What is the point of removing the factory front sway bar?

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94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, adjustable fuel regulator 14.4@100 MPH on G-tech;96 at track. (Sad, i know. i have stock heads)

Stang Runner · 07-26-2001, 09:24 PM

Better weight transfer NOT very good handaling.

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14.62@96.9 Engine: Steal Mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, Home ported Lower Intake, No power steering, No A/C
Drive Train: 3.55, World Class T-5, Lakewood Bell housing, Adjustable Clutch Cable, AL Driveshaft
Suspension: MAC Control Arms, Maximum Motorsports Front Grip Package, H&R Sport Springs, Bilstein Shocks
Exhaust: 1 5/8 UN-Equal Length Mac Headers, X-pipe W\cats, Edelbrock cat\back
Cooling: 3 Core Radiator

Fox Body · 07-26-2001, 09:40 PM

If you remove one from a V8 Mustang, you will find that it is heavier than it looks. Less weight up front is a good thing for drag racing (for better weight transfer to back). If you're going in a straight line, you don't necessarily need a anti-sway bar.

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351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback
Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit
Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup someday)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

SlowStang2 · 07-26-2001, 09:59 PM

Will removing it be ok for street use? Errr, I mean as long as I'm not doing tight fast turns? Otherwise, I might as well give it a shot. Every little bit counts, but if its gonna affect normal driving then forget it!

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94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, adjustable fuel regulator 14.4@100 MPH on G-tech;96 at track. (Sad, i know. i have stock heads)

Fox Body · 07-26-2001, 10:40 PM

Yeah you can try it out. No biggy. Just know that it will affect your cornering capabilities. Test it out and see what you think.

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351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback
Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit
Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup someday)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

dinomite · 07-27-2001, 09:56 AM

it just affects the weight transfer, so on accel, more weight goes back, but on cornering (if you are braking into the corner) it will accent the already-apparent understeer. but these are RWD cars with power, so you can have instant oversteer!

Rick 91GT · 07-27-2001, 04:12 PM

Removing it also allows the front suspenison to travel more which is what you want on launches at the track. I removed mine and don't miss it at all, of course I don't take turns too fast with the 3.5" skinnies on the front anyway. The one on my 91 weighed a good 25lbs.

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Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! FIRST TIME OUT 12.16@111 WHEELS-UP

PureStreet · 07-27-2001, 06:48 PM

I took it off for raceday on my 95 Cobra which has essentially the same suspension set up as your 94. I absolutely hated it, although it did probably help my launch. I was able to get a 1.80 60 foot with stock suspension and drag radials. However the street difference sucked, really bad. Just driving down the road, your could feel it wandering back and forth... I only took it off for the track after that.

2 notes...
-The 94 and up front sway bar is about 3 times smaller and lighter than the early fox body cars, so it is not as evident in removing it on the newer cars.
-Apparently taking the sway bar off of the Fox body cars still kept pretty good street drivability, so be caregful who's advice you take! I haven't had the sway bar off my LX yet, so I don't know.

Good Luck.

07-26-2001, 09:11 PM	#1
SlowStang2 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Stuart, FL, US Posts: 147	Front Sway bar removal What is the point of removing the factory front sway bar? ------------------ 94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, adjustable fuel regulator 14.4@100 MPH on G-tech;96 at track. (Sad, i know. i have stock heads)

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07-26-2001, 09:24 PM	#2
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	Better weight transfer NOT very good handaling. ------------------ 14.62@96.9 Engine: Steal Mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, Home ported Lower Intake, No power steering, No A/C Drive Train: 3.55, World Class T-5, Lakewood Bell housing, Adjustable Clutch Cable, AL Driveshaft Suspension: MAC Control Arms, Maximum Motorsports Front Grip Package, H&R Sport Springs, Bilstein Shocks Exhaust: 1 5/8 UN-Equal Length Mac Headers, X-pipe W\cats, Edelbrock cat\back Cooling: 3 Core Radiator

07-26-2001, 09:40 PM	#3
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	If you remove one from a V8 Mustang, you will find that it is heavier than it looks. Less weight up front is a good thing for drag racing (for better weight transfer to back). If you're going in a straight line, you don't necessarily need a anti-sway bar. ----------------------------------------- 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup someday) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

07-26-2001, 09:59 PM	#4
SlowStang2 Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Stuart, FL, US Posts: 147	Will removing it be ok for street use? Errr, I mean as long as I'm not doing tight fast turns? Otherwise, I might as well give it a shot. Every little bit counts, but if its gonna affect normal driving then forget it! ------------------ 94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, adjustable fuel regulator 14.4@100 MPH on G-tech;96 at track. (Sad, i know. i have stock heads)

07-26-2001, 10:40 PM	#5
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Yeah you can try it out. No biggy. Just know that it will affect your cornering capabilities. Test it out and see what you think. ----------------------------------------- 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang notchback Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl, C4 w/ shift kit Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup someday) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

07-27-2001, 09:56 AM	#6
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	it just affects the weight transfer, so on accel, more weight goes back, but on cornering (if you are braking into the corner) it will accent the already-apparent understeer. but these are RWD cars with power, so you can have instant oversteer!

07-27-2001, 04:12 PM	#7
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	Removing it also allows the front suspenison to travel more which is what you want on launches at the track. I removed mine and don't miss it at all, of course I don't take turns too fast with the 3.5" skinnies on the front anyway. The one on my 91 weighed a good 25lbs. ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! FIRST TIME OUT 12.16@111 WHEELS-UP

07-27-2001, 06:48 PM	#8
PureStreet Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Ashburn, VA US Posts: 294	I took it off for raceday on my 95 Cobra which has essentially the same suspension set up as your 94. I absolutely hated it, although it did probably help my launch. I was able to get a 1.80 60 foot with stock suspension and drag radials. However the street difference sucked, really bad. Just driving down the road, your could feel it wandering back and forth... I only took it off for the track after that. 2 notes... -The 94 and up front sway bar is about 3 times smaller and lighter than the early fox body cars, so it is not as evident in removing it on the newer cars. -Apparently taking the sway bar off of the Fox body cars still kept pretty good street drivability, so be caregful who's advice you take! I haven't had the sway bar off my LX yet, so I don't know. Good Luck.