Frozen water pump?

Rosco · 02-20-2005, 04:50 PM

Alright, just went over today and charged my battery on the good ol mustang. Started it, and a ton of smoke was pouring from the front. Shut it off and checked the alternator belt which was extremely hot. I am wondering, it has been very cold up here on and off, could it be possible that the water pump has frozen up on me? The second time i started it, no smoke, and the belt wasn't even turning. I didn't get a chance to inspect under the hood while it was running for the minute it was. So if it is the water pump, is it possible for it to loosen up possibly if it gets a little warmer out? Or should i just throw on a new pump?

rwhite65 · 02-21-2005, 03:57 AM

Ok, I am not sure I am understanding this completely. The belt was not turning when you started it the 2nd time, but you were not able to look? How do you know it was not turning?
Ryan

KiltedBanshees93GT · 02-21-2005, 08:47 AM

Kinda confuzzled too...but if your worried about a frozen pully, have you tried taking the belt off and turning them by hand?
My smog pump, well, em, melted a while back, and took the belt with it. I didnt know it until I got the new belt on, cranked it up and it started to eat the new belt too.

Here's the culprit

mustangII460 · 02-21-2005, 04:56 PM

Coolant froze? A mystery question.

Rosco · 02-21-2005, 09:24 PM

I was running alot less coolant in the system then i should have been, due to a small leak in the upper water neck. And for the belt not moving, i had the girl who was with me take a look and tell me what was moving and what wasn't. I could also tell from inside the car that the belt was not moving because as soon as I started it, the amp light came on, which tells me the alternator was not turning. I am also assuming for the belt it will have to be replaced, I'm pretty sure the crank pulley melted the belt smooth while it was not moving. It might have not even have been moving the first time.

grey88gt · 02-22-2005, 12:02 AM

Iam like KiltedBanshees. Why not pull the belt off and see whats turning and what isnt turning. Go to local parts store and get a $ 2.00 anti-freeze tester and check the freezing point of the water. If the water froze it also could have pushed out a freeze plug.

rwhite65 · 02-22-2005, 01:20 AM

If you think you ruined the belt anyhow...cut the thing off and see if it will turn.
Ryan

Rev · 02-22-2005, 08:32 PM

Doesn't seem like such a big puzzle to me. Take the belt off and see what's non-fuctional. Replace the bad parts and go on your way. Replace the coolant for good measure.

Rev

~The Jester~ · 02-24-2005, 08:16 AM

I vote air pump! Had to go rescue my sister on the side of the road for the very same thing. Just like everyone else said, cut the belt off and see what turns by hand and what doesn't. You'll know.

Rosco · 02-24-2005, 10:51 AM

Now there is no possible way it could be the air pump

can't be something that's not there.

joe4speed · 02-27-2005, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev

Doesn't seem like such a big puzzle to me. Take the belt off and see what's non-fuctional. Replace the bad parts and go on your way. Replace the coolant for good measure.

Rev

Agreed!
It's much easier to do it this way than trying to guess what the culprit is. With the belt off, you can spin the pulleys by hand and the one that doesn't spin (besides the crank pulley) is where the problem is!

02-20-2005, 04:50 PM	#1
Rosco Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vestal, NY Posts: 307	Frozen water pump? Alright, just went over today and charged my battery on the good ol mustang. Started it, and a ton of smoke was pouring from the front. Shut it off and checked the alternator belt which was extremely hot. I am wondering, it has been very cold up here on and off, could it be possible that the water pump has frozen up on me? The second time i started it, no smoke, and the belt wasn't even turning. I didn't get a chance to inspect under the hood while it was running for the minute it was. So if it is the water pump, is it possible for it to loosen up possibly if it gets a little warmer out? Or should i just throw on a new pump? __________________ 1989 Mustang 5.0 Conversion, Full Saleen ground effects and spoiler, '94 saleen decal set, '93 Saleen Seats, Black interior from a '93, Steeda quadrant, smog pump delete, a/c delete, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, '97 rear differential, aluminum driveshaft, 5 lug conversion, '97 rear disc brakes, southside upper and lower control arms, '99 GT Anniversary wheels, flowtech longtubes, flowtech offroad H-pipe, saleen lowering springs, kyb shocks, caster/camber plates

02-21-2005, 03:57 AM	#2
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: Frozen water pump? Ok, I am not sure I am understanding this completely. The belt was not turning when you started it the 2nd time, but you were not able to look? How do you know it was not turning? Ryan __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

02-21-2005, 04:56 PM	#4
mustangII460 Factoy Five Roadster Join Date: May 2000 Location: Sevier Co,Tennessee Posts: 1,681	Re: Frozen water pump? Coolant froze? A mystery question. __________________ Frank

02-21-2005, 09:24 PM	#5
Rosco Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vestal, NY Posts: 307	Re: Frozen water pump? I was running alot less coolant in the system then i should have been, due to a small leak in the upper water neck. And for the belt not moving, i had the girl who was with me take a look and tell me what was moving and what wasn't. I could also tell from inside the car that the belt was not moving because as soon as I started it, the amp light came on, which tells me the alternator was not turning. I am also assuming for the belt it will have to be replaced, I'm pretty sure the crank pulley melted the belt smooth while it was not moving. It might have not even have been moving the first time. __________________ 1989 Mustang 5.0 Conversion, Full Saleen ground effects and spoiler, '94 saleen decal set, '93 Saleen Seats, Black interior from a '93, Steeda quadrant, smog pump delete, a/c delete, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, '97 rear differential, aluminum driveshaft, 5 lug conversion, '97 rear disc brakes, southside upper and lower control arms, '99 GT Anniversary wheels, flowtech longtubes, flowtech offroad H-pipe, saleen lowering springs, kyb shocks, caster/camber plates

02-22-2005, 12:02 AM	#6
grey88gt Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Skiatook, Oklahoma Posts: 193	Re: Frozen water pump? Iam like KiltedBanshees. Why not pull the belt off and see whats turning and what isnt turning. Go to local parts store and get a $ 2.00 anti-freeze tester and check the freezing point of the water. If the water froze it also could have pushed out a freeze plug.

02-22-2005, 01:20 AM	#7
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: Frozen water pump? If you think you ruined the belt anyhow...cut the thing off and see if it will turn. Ryan __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

02-22-2005, 08:32 PM	#8
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Re: Frozen water pump? Doesn't seem like such a big puzzle to me. Take the belt off and see what's non-fuctional. Replace the bad parts and go on your way. Replace the coolant for good measure. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

02-24-2005, 08:16 AM	#9
~The Jester~ Rat Killer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cold ass Ohio Posts: 1,143	Re: Frozen water pump? I vote air pump! Had to go rescue my sister on the side of the road for the very same thing. Just like everyone else said, cut the belt off and see what turns by hand and what doesn't. You'll know. __________________ d-Con Racing "Nothing fancy, just 347 inches of RAT POISON!" MICE need not apply.....

02-24-2005, 10:51 AM	#10
Rosco Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vestal, NY Posts: 307	Re: Frozen water pump? Now there is no possible way it could be the air pump can't be something that's not there. __________________ 1989 Mustang 5.0 Conversion, Full Saleen ground effects and spoiler, '94 saleen decal set, '93 Saleen Seats, Black interior from a '93, Steeda quadrant, smog pump delete, a/c delete, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, '97 rear differential, aluminum driveshaft, 5 lug conversion, '97 rear disc brakes, southside upper and lower control arms, '99 GT Anniversary wheels, flowtech longtubes, flowtech offroad H-pipe, saleen lowering springs, kyb shocks, caster/camber plates

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