OK now i have real issues

drtbiker · 05-25-2003, 03:08 PM

So i go ahead and hook up the jumper to terminal two then hook terminal #4 on the 6 plug thing and put it to a battery meter and the meter does not sweap at all just stays in the center. Turned on the ignition turn it off. Same thing now everyone says to try to pull the codes. I have the worst luck i cant even get the car to throw me any codes at all.

later

Maroon 5.0 LX · 05-25-2003, 09:12 PM

What did you say?

drtbiker · 05-25-2003, 09:38 PM

i tried to pull codes from the car and nothing happen at all. I get no codes at all not even code 11

Coupe50h · 05-26-2003, 12:00 AM

sounds like you are trying to pull codes without a scanner? my advice, get a real scanner, iff it doesnt throw codes, check all grounds.
good luck

PKRWUD · 05-26-2003, 04:44 AM

Normally, does your MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp, aka Check Engine Light) come on when you turn the key on, but do not start the engine?

drtbiker · 05-26-2003, 02:09 PM

it doesnt have a check engine light that i am aware of. IT is a 87 and i switched over to mass air

PKRWUD · 05-26-2003, 04:04 PM

Right. I forgot it was an '87. okay, do this; Set up just like you did before, with a test light probe touching the 2nd plug from the left, on the bottom row of four, and attach the alligator clip end of the test lamp to the pos battery post. Insert a jumper wire with a blade fitting on one end, into the single wire connector that accompanies the 6 pin plug, and the other end of it should be attached to a good ground, rather than the #2 pin in the 6 pin connector. Understand? next, turn the key ON, and wait for the test lamp to start flashing. If it doesn't, leave everything the way it is, with the key ON, and double check all your connections, and make sure they're good. If you still don't get any kind of flicker from the test lamp, let me know.

Take care,
~Chris

In the "drawing" below, the X is where your test light probe goes, and the pigtail wire (G) goes directly to ground.

/ _ _ \
_ x _ _ |G|

drtbiker · 05-26-2003, 04:53 PM

ok cool ill give it a shot when i get a chance probally be on weds when i have time to work on it again

thanks
raini

drtbiker · 05-31-2003, 05:39 PM

well here we go the following codes i have... now what do i have to fix =)
all codes taken with engine off ignition on..

51- Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor signal is/was too high - ECT

22 -MAP (vacuum) or BARO signal out of range - MAP

53-Throttle Position sensor too high - TPS

54-Intake Air Temperature (IAT) or Vane Air Temperature (VAT) signal high - IAT VAT

35-(R) EVP - Engine RPM's too low to test EGR system - EVP

67-Park/Neutral circuit fault - PNP
-Transmission Manual Lever Position (MLP) sensor circuit
-Transmissions (M) Intermittent Park Neutral Position (PNP) sensor fault - PNP
(what in the heck does that mean???)

81-Boost control solenoid - Solenoids
-AIRD solenoid - Solenoids and Air Injection
-3 0L SHO - Inlet Air Solenoid - Solenoids
(what does that mean)
82-2 3L TC - Fan Control wire shorted to ground - A/C and Fan Circuits
(it is pluged in)

96-(O) Fuel pump monitor circuit shows no power - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits

96-(O) Fuel pump monitor circuit shows no power - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits
-(R) AIR Bypass (AIRB) not working - Air Injection
-(M) (Service 87 code first if present) Fuel pump relay or battery power feed was open - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits

i am so confused pkrwud i sure hope u can come to my rescue on this one......

thanks

05-25-2003, 03:08 PM	#1
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	OK now i have real issues So i go ahead and hook up the jumper to terminal two then hook terminal #4 on the 6 plug thing and put it to a battery meter and the meter does not sweap at all just stays in the center. Turned on the ignition turn it off. Same thing now everyone says to try to pull the codes. I have the worst luck i cant even get the car to throw me any codes at all. later __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-25-2003, 09:38 PM	#3
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	i tried to pull codes from the car and nothing happen at all. I get no codes at all not even code 11 __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-26-2003, 04:44 AM	#5
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Normally, does your MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp, aka Check Engine Light) come on when you turn the key on, but do not start the engine? __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

05-26-2003, 02:09 PM	#6
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	it doesnt have a check engine light that i am aware of. IT is a 87 and i switched over to mass air __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-26-2003, 04:04 PM	#7
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Right. I forgot it was an '87. okay, do this; Set up just like you did before, with a test light probe touching the 2nd plug from the left, on the bottom row of four, and attach the alligator clip end of the test lamp to the pos battery post. Insert a jumper wire with a blade fitting on one end, into the single wire connector that accompanies the 6 pin plug, and the other end of it should be attached to a good ground, rather than the #2 pin in the 6 pin connector. Understand? next, turn the key ON, and wait for the test lamp to start flashing. If it doesn't, leave everything the way it is, with the key ON, and double check all your connections, and make sure they're good. If you still don't get any kind of flicker from the test lamp, let me know. Take care, ~Chris In the "drawing" below, the X is where your test light probe goes, and the pigtail wire (G) goes directly to ground. / _ _ \ _ x _ _ \|G\| __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

05-25-2003, 09:12 PM	#2
Maroon 5.0 LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 471	What did you say? __________________ '89 LX 5.0 - 5 speed. Original Owner '94 E-150 4.9 Hi-Top Conversion Van '06 Mustang V-6, 5 speed

05-26-2003, 12:00 AM	#4
Coupe50h Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 957	sounds like you are trying to pull codes without a scanner? my advice, get a real scanner, iff it doesnt throw codes, check all grounds. good luck __________________ X-Texas highway patrol ssp 1990 coupe - exploder Gt-40 iron heads, Explorer intake, 19 lber's. E-cam. crane 1.7 rollers. 190fp. 75mm maf. 65mm tb, tubular subframe connectors, mac cai, Asp crank pulley, T-5, king cobra clutch, flowtech 1-5/8 unequals, mac X-pipe Frpp driveshaft, lakewood Lca's. race weight 3,160 12.69 @ 107.35, 1.71 60' 26x8.5 drag's 3.90 gear 13.20 @ 106.91 - 235/60/15 firestones 2.3 60' 3.27 gear

05-26-2003, 04:53 PM	#8
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	ok cool ill give it a shot when i get a chance probally be on weds when i have time to work on it again thanks raini __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-31-2003, 05:39 PM	#9
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	well here we go the following codes i have... now what do i have to fix =) all codes taken with engine off ignition on.. 51- Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor signal is/was too high - ECT 22 -MAP (vacuum) or BARO signal out of range - MAP 53-Throttle Position sensor too high - TPS 54-Intake Air Temperature (IAT) or Vane Air Temperature (VAT) signal high - IAT VAT 35-(R) EVP - Engine RPM's too low to test EGR system - EVP 67-Park/Neutral circuit fault - PNP -Transmission Manual Lever Position (MLP) sensor circuit -Transmissions (M) Intermittent Park Neutral Position (PNP) sensor fault - PNP (what in the heck does that mean???) 81-Boost control solenoid - Solenoids -AIRD solenoid - Solenoids and Air Injection -3 0L SHO - Inlet Air Solenoid - Solenoids (what does that mean) 82-2 3L TC - Fan Control wire shorted to ground - A/C and Fan Circuits (it is pluged in) 96-(O) Fuel pump monitor circuit shows no power - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits 96-(O) Fuel pump monitor circuit shows no power - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits -(R) AIR Bypass (AIRB) not working - Air Injection -(M) (Service 87 code first if present) Fuel pump relay or battery power feed was open - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits i am so confused pkrwud i sure hope u can come to my rescue on this one...... thanks __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

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