General 1/4 Guesstimate...after these mods.

Sonics2042 · 09-12-2001, 03:26 PM

Wondering about what I can run (best - worst) under cold morning conditions at sea level after these modifications.

BBK Equal-length long headers.
MAC cat-back exhaust.
Full cone intake (K&N) located in fender.
15" Michelin Pilot tires with stock rims.
Aftermarket off-road h-pipe.
Custom Chip
3.73 Gears

1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0
AOD Transmission.
All new wires/plugs/gasket and just about everything from Ford Racing.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
DoranW

LfiveohX · 09-12-2001, 04:19 PM

Mid to High 14's.
Only a guess though. This is only from seeing other mustangs with similar mods on an auto. You really need to help it out by getting a loose converter and shift kit. Then get traction and you will fly!

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1993 Conv. LX 5.0, Air in the tires, Fuel in the tank, Put the top down, Floor it till it breaks!

09-12-2001, 04:26 PM

What's your mileage? Depending on the shape of your Stang and how it's tuned, I'd think you'd run anywhere from mid-13's to mid 14's! Need more info 1st.

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

Sonics2042 · 09-12-2001, 04:56 PM

My car is in really good shape for its age. Just got a full $600 dollar tune-up guarenteed to bring it above stock performance. Not bad for an 11 year old car.

What does it a loose converter do/give me. Same with shift kit? I heard that the shift kit also makes it more fun to drive. Why is that?

Thanks,
DoranW

lx mike · 09-12-2001, 07:06 PM

i'll guess 15.0's at 96 mph. a looser converter help you leave the line faster cause you can bring the rpm's up more.

mustanger82 · 09-13-2001, 01:14 AM

I've seen bone stock 5 speed cars run 13.5's
my advise to you is to ditch the aod and get a t-5 and watch your car hit 12's with some slicks!!!!
best of luck
sean

Sonics2042 · 09-13-2001, 12:15 PM

But after I get the chip, shouldn't it be almost as good as a manual? The chip would raise the redline, and then shift at the redline making it technically as good as most good manual drivers.

09-13-2001, 01:25 PM

Normally with your mods I wouldn't recommend getting a chip yet, but since you have an AOD I'd get one.....my recommendation (.02) is that you go w/ a JMS Chip.

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

Sonics2042 · 09-13-2001, 01:32 PM

I am getting the chip last with custom programming.

FYI
Thanks,
Sonics2042

fiveohpatrol · 09-13-2001, 01:47 PM

a chip will not make your AOD even close to the performance of a manual no matter what kind of chip you get, your shift point idea can be done for free, its the 1-d-1 shift, if you want to make your car close to the performance of a manual you will need a stall converter in the 3000RPM range and a vlave body that will allow you to shift it yourself without hurting the tranny (unlike 1d1 on a stocker) i suggest looking at lentech for the valvebody and performance industries for the converter, oh yah, when my car was an AOD and i had similar mods to yours i was running mid-low 14s on a crappy track with street tires

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88 Notch, B&M Ripper, 3.73's, Ported E7's, Explorer int. w/ ported lower, pulleys, 1.7RR's, BBK headers, off-road H-pipe, flowmasters, subframes, 65mm TB, March ram air ,MSD coil, U/L control arms, 155lph f/p, Crane Adj.FPR, Nitto drag radials, best 1/4--> 13.76@101.4 on a 2.17 60ft

Skyman · 09-13-2001, 06:07 PM

14.7@95mph

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20.
12.54@107.4 Motor
332RWHP, 350rwtq

09-12-2001, 03:26 PM	#1
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	General 1/4 Guesstimate...after these mods. Wondering about what I can run (best - worst) under cold morning conditions at sea level after these modifications. BBK Equal-length long headers. MAC cat-back exhaust. Full cone intake (K&N) located in fender. 15" Michelin Pilot tires with stock rims. Aftermarket off-road h-pipe. Custom Chip 3.73 Gears 1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 AOD Transmission. All new wires/plugs/gasket and just about everything from Ford Racing. Any ideas? Thanks, DoranW

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09-12-2001, 04:19 PM	#2
LfiveohX Addicted to the 5.0 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxnard, CA. USA Posts: 117	Mid to High 14's. Only a guess though. This is only from seeing other mustangs with similar mods on an auto. You really need to help it out by getting a loose converter and shift kit. Then get traction and you will fly! ------------------ 1993 Conv. LX 5.0, Air in the tires, Fuel in the tank, Put the top down, Floor it till it breaks!

09-12-2001, 04:26 PM	#3
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	What's your mileage? Depending on the shape of your Stang and how it's tuned, I'd think you'd run anywhere from mid-13's to mid 14's! Need more info 1st. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

09-12-2001, 04:56 PM	#4
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	My car is in really good shape for its age. Just got a full $600 dollar tune-up guarenteed to bring it above stock performance. Not bad for an 11 year old car. What does it a loose converter do/give me. Same with shift kit? I heard that the shift kit also makes it more fun to drive. Why is that? Thanks, DoranW

09-12-2001, 07:06 PM	#5
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	i'll guess 15.0's at 96 mph. a looser converter help you leave the line faster cause you can bring the rpm's up more.

09-13-2001, 01:14 AM	#6
mustanger82 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: chilliwack b.c. canada Posts: 25	I've seen bone stock 5 speed cars run 13.5's my advise to you is to ditch the aod and get a t-5 and watch your car hit 12's with some slicks!!!! best of luck sean

09-13-2001, 12:15 PM	#7
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	But after I get the chip, shouldn't it be almost as good as a manual? The chip would raise the redline, and then shift at the redline making it technically as good as most good manual drivers.

09-13-2001, 01:25 PM	#8
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	Normally with your mods I wouldn't recommend getting a chip yet, but since you have an AOD I'd get one.....my recommendation (.02) is that you go w/ a JMS Chip. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

09-13-2001, 01:32 PM	#9
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	I am getting the chip last with custom programming. FYI Thanks, Sonics2042

09-13-2001, 01:47 PM	#10
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	a chip will not make your AOD even close to the performance of a manual no matter what kind of chip you get, your shift point idea can be done for free, its the 1-d-1 shift, if you want to make your car close to the performance of a manual you will need a stall converter in the 3000RPM range and a vlave body that will allow you to shift it yourself without hurting the tranny (unlike 1d1 on a stocker) i suggest looking at lentech for the valvebody and performance industries for the converter, oh yah, when my car was an AOD and i had similar mods to yours i was running mid-low 14s on a crappy track with street tires ------------------ 88 Notch, B&M Ripper, 3.73's, Ported E7's, Explorer int. w/ ported lower, pulleys, 1.7RR's, BBK headers, off-road H-pipe, flowmasters, subframes, 65mm TB, March ram air ,MSD coil, U/L control arms, 155lph f/p, Crane Adj.FPR, Nitto drag radials, best 1/4--> 13.76@101.4 on a 2.17 60ft

09-13-2001, 06:07 PM	#11
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	14.7@95mph Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor *332RWHP, 350rwtq*