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BowTie Eater 5 Liter 07-27-2002 12:59 AM

Going To Attempt A MAF To SD, And SD To MAF Conversion... Please Help
 
I am going to attempt to swap out my speed density system, and put it in my buddys MAF car, and his maf into my car.


are there any good sites that explain how to do this?

who will gain power, and how much?


Thank You

PKRWUD 07-27-2002 02:05 AM

Don't know how much it will help, but these are my notes for switching from SD to MA:

Wiring mods necessary to install MAF into a SD system.

You will need a MAF ECM with matching injectors.

Homemade MAF power signal harness into SD EEC IV connector (for use with a MAF ECM)

Parts:
MAF connector
4 wires
2 EEC IV connector pins

Attach the 4 wires to the MAF connector

The wire in MAF connector pin:
"A" is spliced into the wire at EEC pin 37
"B" is spliced into the wire at EEC pin 40 or 60
"C" has a EEC pin soldered to the other end, and is inserted into location 9 in the EEC connector
"D" has a EEC pin soldered to the other end, and is inserted into location 50 in the EEC connector.

(if your MAF connector has 5 pins {A-E}, connect as above: A is the same, B is left empty, and C-E are the same as B-D above)

Smog Pump wiring at the EEC connector must be changed as follows:
Move the wire in position 51 to position 38
Move the wire in position 11 to position 32
If necessary, splice in extra wire to reach these new locations

Leave injectors 1 and 2 the way they are and on the remaining injectors leave the VPWR the way they are also just adding the "trigger" (ground) wires from the processor to the injectors. Pin 12 is injector 3, pin 13 is injector 4, pin 14 is injector 5, pin 15 is injector 6, pin 42 is injector 7 and pin 52 is injector 8. Injector 1 remains pin 58 and injector 2 remains pin 59.

Take care,
~Chris

BowTie Eater 5 Liter 07-27-2002 02:11 AM

oh boy, i wish i knew what i was doing...

does anyone have a site with pictures to help along the way?

Thanks

PKRWUD 07-27-2002 02:21 AM

This is for F150's, but it will work fine for you:

SD to MAF Instructions (w/ pics!)

:)

Take care,
~Chris

88workcar 07-27-2002 05:46 AM

I have a complete conversion. It has been in my shed for three years. I don't think that I will ever make the swap. I also think you will slow down. "Fighten it till the end, Long live SPEED DENSITY" :cool: Good luck whatever you choose to do. Jason

Mach 1 07-27-2002 08:53 AM

Ive done this conversion and it was simple. There was no fuel injector modifications required. the trucks are not sequential, thus the additional work involved in converting a truck, but a mustang 5.0 SD to mass air, both are sequential injected.

There are a couple wires to be swapped around, and the install of the Meter, wiring harness, swapping ECM's, and you modify the MAP/BAP sensor. thats all there is to it.

PKRWUD 07-27-2002 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mach 1
There was no fuel injector modifications required. the trucks are not sequential, thus the additional work involved in converting a truck, but a mustang 5.0 SD to mass air, both are sequential injected.
Good point. I should have paid closer attention before sharing my notes! They were from my F150 folder.

:)

Take care,
~Chris

Dark_5.0 07-27-2002 10:42 AM

Expect to run a tenth or 2 slower.

BowTie Eater 5 Liter 07-27-2002 01:10 PM

hey, thanks for all the replys, but how do i modify the map/bap sensors?actually, what is the map/bap sensor for that matter?
could we just trade them from each other while we are doing the swap?


my buddys car is going to have all my computer stuff(speed density system) and will his car still work fine?

Thanks.

Oh, He will pick up some power on this one, right?

Mach 1 07-27-2002 01:42 PM

The map/bap sensor is the same thing basically. Its on the firewall, near the middle.

On the speed density car, it will have a vacuum line going to the intake manifold(it reads manifold absolute pressure) and on the MAF car, it will not have a vaccum line and it will read (barometric air pressure). Its basically used as a back up sensor in the MAF car.

So on the maf car, leave the vacuum port open to atmoshere on the sensor, and plug the port on the intake where it was going.

on the SD car, hook up the vacuum line.

Im just recalling this from memory, and havent looked it up, so I might be missing something, but that should get you going in the right direction.


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