got $800.00 burnin a hole in my pocket...

[tomazzzo]

After reading all the posts regarding heads, intakes etc, I dont know what to do.

I was going to get the trickflow street upper and lower intake, 70mm mac throttle body and spacer, 75mm maf, but it sounds like I wont get any real seat of the pants power.

I have already bbk ceramic long tubes, h pipe, flowmaster 21\2 inch flowmaster 2ch catback system, bbk fenderwell cold air kit, black magic electric fan. everything else is stock.

What Kind of horsepower/torque gains can I expect by upgrading to the above intake parts?

and by the way, will the rubber sleves for the mac cold air kit fit on the bigger throttle body and maf meter?

[Stang_Crazy]

IMO, swapping the intake will give you some power but the heads will still be restricting the airflow so you won't see the best gains. I also think the 70mm tb is too big for a mostly stock application. You'll have better results with a 65mm.

The ideal thing to do would be the heads and intake at the same time.

Actually, if you get rid of those long tubes for some shorty's, you'll probably see a nice gain in SOTP (seat of the pants) feel. The long tubes are killing your lowend torque and since your motor is basically stock, they aren't necessary. If you end up going with a heads/intake package, those headers will benefit you.

[Stang_Crazy]

Now that I look at your signature, I don't see any gears. I'd say get some gears first. They are, hands down, the best bang for the buck. 3.73's or 4.10's IMO

[Dark_5.0]

Long tube headers add low end torque they dont take it away and on a mostly stock engine long tubes are the only way to IMO.

If I were you I would buy some heads and port the hell outta your stock intake.

later,

[B2r3y]

I think best bang for your money are to get some heads so you can open up your car where it needs it and port the hell out of your intake. if you had a bit more i would say rear end also, but you know thats what i agree with.

Bryan

[88workcar]

Gears/tires
Gears/struts
Gears/springs
Gears/control arms
Gears/control arm bushings
Gears/Cobra intake
Gears/ port your stock heads and intake/ three angle valve job and deck .030
And last but not least GEARS GEARS GEARS

[fiveohpatrol]

Originally posted by 88workcar
Gears/tires
Gears/struts
Gears/springs
Gears/control arms
Gears/control arm bushings
Gears/Cobra intake
Gears/ port your stock heads and intake/ three angle valve job and deck .030
And last but not least GEARS GEARS GEARS

ditto

[Dark_5.0]

Gears are not always the best route especially if you are not gonna be sitting on some slicks.

Back in the day when my car was stock I was running a 15.2 @88mph. I put in some 3.73 gears and all of the sudden was running a 15.35 @88mph.

My gears didnt help me at all but when I got my heads and explorer intake I dropped nearly a full second off of my ET.

JMO,

[fiveohpatrol]

True, they arent always an immediate gain, but once you learn how to launch with them, you will improve your times.

My car (when still an AOD) went like 15.4 stock with 2.73 gears, then dropped over a half second with just the addition of the 3.73's.

All on the same 225/60 street tires

Dark_5.0, how did you 60ft's compare before and after the gears?

[Dark_5.0]

My 60ft was pretty much the same but I was spinning 20ft of 2nd gear and getting 3rd gear scratch.

With an auto gears do help alot cause they really help you come off the line but with a 5 speed even with 2.73's you can revv up dump the clutch and scream outta the hole.

Later,

[stevstum]

I would get gears next IMO. Next I would do heads and intake so you can free the air in there. If you look around there are a few people on the other mustang boards that port heads. I just read about a guy named Thumper who ports E7s and with a few other mods almost garentees 12s.

[Stang_Crazy]

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
Long tube headers add low end torque they dont take it away and on a mostly stock engine long tubes are the only way to IMO.

Long tubes on a stock motor? This is the first itme I've ever heard anyone suggest this. His motor isn't making enough power to take full advantage of long tubes.

[BilLster]

$800 us get gears and try and find used heads or intake explorer ext and then you can sell those when you have more money.

My gears cost $25.00 from the wrecker and $50.00 to get a friend to help install.

but not everyone knows how to properly set up a rear end.

but seriously I would first try and decide on your finished package
because that will effect the gears you should get and cam.

I have bought alot of parts that are sitting in my basement now.
302 truck intake 73 c&l maf gears 3.08,3.55 ext

you could port the hell out of your heads and intake and buy a c&l 76mm mass air and i would say buy th 70 if you plan to upgrade. why buy twice.

i always try and suggest parts that you will need for any combo.

like what about lower control arms ?

or an adjustable n20 system which you can use on any engine.

[Dark_5.0]

Originally posted by Stang_Crazy
Long tubes on a stock motor? This is the first itme I've ever heard anyone suggest this. His motor isn't making enough power to take full advantage of long tubes.

I always suggest going with 1 1/2 inch tube headers on a stock or near stock application.

Now with that being said Long tube headers make more power throughout the entire powerband than shorties. Even on a stock engine.

What I dont suggest doing is putting 1 5/8 inch tube headers of any kind on a stock motor.

[88workcar]

Well I don't have heads, But I got the gear (4.30s) And with a TOTAL STOCK engine in my car it will run 12s, TWELVES, XIIs ,ect...Yes my car is light bla bla bla, but with out the gear it would not happen.

This is the best argument we have had in quite a while, It feels good.

[mike72678]

GEARS , definitely . Keep the long tubes no matter what anyone says , they are better than shorties and produce around 20 more hp than shorties on a modified 5.0 , i have seen the dyno results myself . They are still better on a stock 5.0 as well and especially if you continue on continuing your mods , definitely keep them.
How about a nitrous kit and some gears for $800 ? Now if that isn't seat of the pants , I don't know what is . Check out this site , parts are pretty cheap here : www.neweraoerformanceparts.com