HARTMAN VALVE COVERS ARE JUNK NEED TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO GRIND OFF STOCK

dirtyGT · 09-14-2001, 03:50 AM

I just put roller rockers on my stock heads crane 1.7's and i put a set of hartman valve covers on with them and they leak like a refinery and they came off a wild street car so they are wore out.What all do i need to gring off my stock covers to clear them?I know to remove the baffle but do i just grind where the baffle bolts to and the whats looks like another place for bolts on the inside ?

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Rick 91GT · 09-14-2001, 07:21 AM

They are the same as the Comp Polymer, I ran them for about 2 years and at the very end they started to leak. You need to use cork gaskets with a very thin layer of RTV and they will not leak. If you use the stock re-enforced gaskets they will leak, no or not.

As for the stockers, you need to grind away the oil baffle to get them to work with the 1.7's, it is a lot of grinding.

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dirtyGT · 09-14-2001, 08:57 AM

I used cork gaskets and a thin layer of rtv but they were given to me so i can't complain too much.I bet they were on and off his car 30 or more times so i'd say it's either grind the stockers or buy a new set.Thanks for your advice

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2FastLX · 09-14-2001, 09:13 AM

You will need to grind the bolt holes flush with the surface of the cover, plus you have to grind away at the bracing in the corners and anywhere else they hit (see pic).

Get yourself some Dykem (part bluing dye) and paint the inside of the covers. Then, very gently slide the cover into place trying not to hit the rockers as much as possible. Since the rockers hit regardless this will be impossible, but try not to wobble them around too much and mark them up where you don't need to grind if ya know what I mean. Pull the cover back off and anywhere the dye was removed needs to be ground away. This is a lot of grinding to make them work by the way. It took me and my brother 2 hours taking turns to get mine done.

I have a set of stock covers that I have already ground on if you want them. I'll sell them for $30 + shipping. Since I live in Indiana too shipping will be around $12 I'm guessing. You may have to grind a bit more on them, but not as much as you would on fresh castings.

Oh yeah, my covers have the powder coating stripped from them too and I could even polish them up a bit if ya want them. Nothing fancy mind you

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2FastLX · 09-14-2001, 09:30 AM

Hey dude. Come to the chat room if you get this.

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09-14-2001, 03:50 AM	#1
dirtyGT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: INDIANA Posts: 658	HARTMAN VALVE COVERS ARE JUNK NEED TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO GRIND OFF STOCK I just put roller rockers on my stock heads crane 1.7's and i put a set of hartman valve covers on with them and they leak like a refinery and they came off a wild street car so they are wore out.What all do i need to gring off my stock covers to clear them?I know to remove the baffle but do i just grind where the baffle bolts to and the whats looks like another place for bolts on the inside ? ------------------ 1991 LX NOTCHBACK 3.73'S,C-4,100 SHOT paracing.net

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09-14-2001, 07:21 AM	#2
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	They are the same as the Comp Polymer, I ran them for about 2 years and at the very end they started to leak. You need to use cork gaskets with a very thin layer of RTV and they will not leak. If you use the stock re-enforced gaskets they will leak, no or not. As for the stockers, you need to grind away the oil baffle to get them to work with the 1.7's, it is a lot of grinding. ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension, SPEC stage III clutch, Lakewood SFI bell, S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! [b]12.16 @ 113.5, 1.78 60ft..no traction in the 90 degree

09-14-2001, 08:57 AM	#3
dirtyGT Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: INDIANA Posts: 658	I used cork gaskets and a thin layer of rtv but they were given to me so i can't complain too much.I bet they were on and off his car 30 or more times so i'd say it's either grind the stockers or buy a new set.Thanks for your advice ------------------ 1991 LX NOTCHBACK 3.73'S,C-4,100 SHOT paracing.net

09-14-2001, 09:13 AM	#4
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	You will need to grind the bolt holes flush with the surface of the cover, plus you have to grind away at the bracing in the corners and anywhere else they hit (see pic). Get yourself some Dykem (part bluing dye) and paint the inside of the covers. Then, very gently slide the cover into place trying not to hit the rockers as much as possible. Since the rockers hit regardless this will be impossible, but try not to wobble them around too much and mark them up where you don't need to grind if ya know what I mean. Pull the cover back off and anywhere the dye was removed needs to be ground away. This is a lot of grinding to make them work by the way. It took me and my brother 2 hours taking turns to get mine done. I have a set of stock covers that I have already ground on if you want them. I'll sell them for $30 + shipping. Since I live in Indiana too shipping will be around $12 I'm guessing. You may have to grind a bit more on them, but not as much as you would on fresh castings. Oh yeah, my covers have the powder coating stripped from them too and I could even polish them up a bit if ya want them. Nothing fancy mind you ------------------ Gunning for 12's! Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241 [This message has been edited by 2FastLX (edited 09-14-2001).]

09-14-2001, 09:30 AM	#5
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	Hey dude. Come to the chat room if you get this. ------------------ Gunning for 12's! Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241 [This message has been edited by 2FastLX (edited 09-14-2001).]