headers

[mustangman7777]

i just got some suspension stuff done and now i am ready to finish off my exhaust with a set of shorty headers. what brand should i get and what kinda prices am i looking at?

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black 94 cobra 5spd; 33,000 miles; 3.73 gears; flowmaster catback; bassani x-pipe w/cats steeda tri-ax shifter; K&N air filter;
subframe connectors; cold air; 14.2@97; 220.6 rwhp
(To buy next: headers, Mass Air, supercharger? )

[rtz]

BBK chrome shorties for about $160.

[mustangman7777]

well, i have had bad luck with bbk, nothing ever fits right from there.

[rtz]

Tell me more about it.

[fastang]

Try equal length Mac's then.

[This message has been edited by fastang (edited 02-27-2001).]

[mustangman7777]

well i got some bbk control arms and they are not made to take into account for something to do with my brake lines or something and it clanks when i hit holes

[88COBRA]

I sell MAC Headers for your car.

Did you want equal length? I MAC Peformance 1 5/8 HTS Unequal Headers 1994-1995 5.0L $144.99 + $15.00 Shipping = $159.99

Ian

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[chris91LX]

I have the BBK unequal ceramic coated headers and they are allright. Looking back I would go with the FRPP unequals which were about $30 more. I paid about $249 for my BBK and the FRPP were $279 if I remember right. The FRPP are better because they come with the single piece flange in chrome and ceramic coated, which makes them a much cleaner piece to install and less headaches if you remove and install them several times. The BBK's come with the single piece flange in chrome, but I've come to distrust the quality of BBK and wouldn't buy from them again. Just my $.02

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91 LX 5.0
Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

[DemonGT]

i have the Mac long tubes and they are pretty nice....no probs yet

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1991 GT,T-5,air silencer removed,racing clutch(previous owner put in so dont know what kind),K&N air filter,Aiwa deck,power acoustic amp,2 12" pianeers,UPDATE: Just got my Mac long tube headers and Cat-back

Future Mods:3.73's,Pro 5.0,Shifter knob,FMS 9mm wires

[mustangman7777]

equal and unequal...what is the difference?

[mustangman7777]

is there a difference in cost, hp gains, or where they will show up (top end, launch, etc.)???

JBA 1 1/2" shorties. I bolted mine on almost 2 years ago, tightened them up 3 weeks later and haven't touched them since. Same car, 265 RWHP.

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1995 5.0 Cobra. ,Exhaust, 3.73's, 13.14 @ 103.65

[Shotgun28]

The new issue of 5.0 has a great article on shorties, and has pictures, makes, prices, and applications, a very detailed article, this will help anyone in the market for some new shorties. Now if they would only do that for the long tubes....Either way I learned quite a bit and well thought out with 7-10 pages, with everything you would need to know about shorty headers.

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91 LX Convertible Gray on Red B&M Shift improver kit,ASP red alum. underdrive pulleys, Richmond 3.73 gears, 1 5/8 Flowtech long tube Headers and off road h-pipe, Flowmaster 2-chamber cat-back with S.S exhaust, MSD 6A Ignition with coil,Cap and rotor, Taylor Pro wires, K&N 12" conical filter system, Jet stage 2 performance chip and just purchased some GT40P heads, looking at exhaust, Lentech Street Terminator plus on it's way...

[fastang]

I just dont see why you would buy shorties in the first place. Not to be rude but for the extra 50 bucks why not get the extra 10 rwhp. That is a huge difference, I know people that paid 600 bucks for a dyno tune w custom chip and gained 10 rwhp! 50 bucks for that much of an increase is the best deal you will EVER get without squeezing. If your worried about smog, get the h pipe w cats like I did. It will still pass depending upon your other mods. Its the mufflers and cats that kill smog not your headers. And changing the spark plugs w longtubes is way easier than w equal length shorties. It just makes more sense to me.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

[This message has been edited by fastang (edited 03-02-2001).]

[mustangman7777]

at the mustang place i take my car the owner who has a stang along with 2 of the employees with stangs all said long tubes are a waste unless you have a bunch of mods, and headers in general are a waste. they said that on my car it will only give me about 10rwhp and for that kind of money i am better off getting a chip or saving for my supercharger. Any comment?

[Jaydee]

If your going to continue to upgrade the motor in the future, sooner or later your going to need headers and a good exhaust system anyway - its just a matter of when your going to spend the money. On my car my Mac shorty's made a difference that could be felt and even very noticeble when I added the Hi-Flow Cat H-Pipe and Flowmaster cat backs. IMO, exhaust upgrades on these cars are definitely not a waste of $$$.

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1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, stock heads and intake, 3.55's and typical bolt on's 13.89@100.25

[Shotgun28]

Long tube headers and headers in general a waste? And is this a performance shop that you take your car? Well first I would say to take your car elsewhere,second headers are without a doubt a very needed peice of a long list that our stangs need. Regarding chips, unless they are custom burned, to me are a waste, trust me, and I wouldn't do a custom burned chip or cam until the car is almost complete, so they will perform at thier best. Others may argue with me regarding the cam, but I want a custom cam and something that will fit my car to a tee when I am complete. But I have to laugh at someone saying headers are a waste. Granted by themselves you won't see much, or feel much, but with other components, h-pipe, cat-back etc, they will breath and you WILL feel the difference. okay sorry Just my opinion.

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91 LX Convertible Gray on Red B&M Shift improver kit,ASP red alum. underdrive pulleys, Richmond 3.73 gears, 1 5/8 Flowtech long tube Headers and off road h-pipe, Flowmaster 2-chamber cat-back with S.S exhaust, MSD 6A Ignition with coil,Cap and rotor, Taylor Pro wires, K&N 12" conical filter system, Jet stage 2 performance chip and just purchased some GT40P heads, looking at exhaust, Lentech Street Terminator plus on it's way...

[Green92LX]

BBK equal lengths. They went on my car like butter....I also put a set of USED unequal BBKs on my coupe and they went on mint too. Mac sucks...trust me.....they look cool until you start the car, then they rust worse than your average rice rocket.

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1992 5.0 LX, V-1 S-Trim @8LBS, Edelbrock 6037 Heads, Cobra Intake,E-303, 1.6 Roller Rockers,65MM Holley TB, 75 MM Pro M Mass Air, 190 LPH FP w/ 24 lb injectors,MSD 6A and BTM, BBK equal length shorties, offroad h-pipe,Mac Flowpath Mufflers, Pro 5.0, 3.73's,Motorsport "C" springs,welded subframe connectors, Ponies w/ 225/50 Nittos, Dark Green w/ 93 Cobra Spoiler

Daily driver: 89 Coupe with 207K plus, BBK shorties,offroad h-pipe,2-chamber flowmasters with dumps

[Dark Knight]

I cant see spending the money for long tubes.. they may only cost $50 more, but the cat H-pipe is around $300 more.. not worth it for 10HP.. unless you are running a well built engine...
I'm going FRPP ceramic.. I've heard bad things about all the headers EXCEPT for them.. soo... ;-)

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84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.16@100.08, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

[mustangman7777]

sorry, my last post came out wrong. he meant it is not worth the money for long over short, and for now i am better off saving for a superchager