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Mustang Maniac
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: GA, U.S.A
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![]() Okay, I'm not asking b/c I want to do this. I'm just curious. If you've just got to know why, then ask.
I figure far over $10,000. It's not like I've sat down and tried to figure it out.
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351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body |
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I need 110mph Trap Speed!
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: So, CA
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![]() Depends if your going to gut it, or run a full weight car. And what chassis? The CRX is light.
Skyler
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2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others. |
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Naperville, IL, USA
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![]() It can't cost much. I mean really, how much can a pack of stickers cost?
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There will always be someone faster then you. |
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I'd rather be basketweaving
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Indianapolis
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![]() btw, I love the line in your sig ![]() -drew
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NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft |
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Mustang Maniac
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: GA, U.S.A
Posts: 2,266
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![]() Okay, let's say a Honda Civic EX (coup) 2-door. MINOR weight reductions-- not gutted.
Power adder: Turbo (either single or twin) or Nitrous Major points: We need transmission, engine and accessories, gears, suspension, and power adder. (and of course driving experiences, but...). I guess we could add labor?
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351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body |
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Backyard Mechanic/Chemist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Acton MA USA
Posts: 435
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![]() Car craft did a 500 hp Honda buildup vs a 500 hp Buick 455 buildup. Seem to remember the Honda costing over 10,000 for the motor and NOS. And the buick motor was $4000 or so, and even was faster at the strip, neither car was in the 10's
I saw a CRX run a high 12 next to me, I made myself feel better thinking how much he spent to get there. For that matter, wouldn't a 10 sec Stang cost some good coin too??
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2001 Crown Vic Maurader Airbox/MAF, DR chip Edel IAS shocks Single exhaust :wtf: 93 P-71 Vic interceptor Backup car now 90 5.0 LX Notch SOLD 74 Chevy Laguna type S-3 454 under construction Currently apart undergoing bodywork. |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: LEXINGTON S.C.
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![]() Almost a moot point....Fast Honda? never seen one except a few motorcycles. I hear those quick imports are all the rage on the west coast.Probably isn't one within 100 miles of hear that will break into the 13's.But I have a friend who digs that crap and he says 10,000 probably wouldn't touch it cuz even if you make all that power it takes mucho dollars to put it on the ground.The bone yards are littered with broken half shafts,those cars are a waste of time and money, even a quick one bores me to sleep.Only bikes should have 4cyls. My bike puts out more hp than my mustang
![]() Almost 270 hp when she is on the squeeze.(last dyno) as for the 10 second mustang lets see: beat up old 4 cyl car:300-800 dollars big block/c6 out of early 70's ford 600-1000 new intake, cam ,carb, 800-1000 N.O.S. fogger 500-800 a little suspension work removing all uneeded wieght slicks stall converter race shifter roll cage I lost count and this isn't exact science but I bet you could put one in the 10's for just a tick under 6 grand if you pinched your pennies. And for 10 grand you could build one hell of a nice drag car |
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Staging lane
Posts: 4,337
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![]() The fast V-tec engines are not really V-tec at all.
You fix it to whare the extra valves are woirking all the time instead of waiting for the v-tec to open them. Then you drop in an agressive cams. and ultra high compression around 13-14 to 1. You will have to go to a 4 throttle body set-up 1 for each cylinder. As well as have extensive porting on the head. Then you use a 4 to 1 header with open exhaust this along with extensive weight reduction is how most people achieve good times with all engine Honda's. V-tec is actually for gas mileage and not power, you remove the V-tec on a DOHC head and fix it to where all 16 valves are working at all times. I have worked on Hondas quite a bit I have a hopped up lil' CRX. Its no fun,
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92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer |
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Dirk Diggler
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: SLOATSBURG, NY
Posts: 1,931
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![]() my buddy in maryland has the fastyest steety honda in the world..its a 88 crx w/ turbo..9.7's at 150 with no wheelie bar
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95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once |
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I got something to say
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 1,557
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![]() They are expensive and require a motor swap of course.
There are 12 sec CRX's out here that simply use a japanese spec B16 or B18. I dont know the exact specifics but it is more expensive than our cars by far.
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Mustang Maniac
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: GA, U.S.A
Posts: 2,266
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![]() Thanks guys. You are pretty much confirming what I already knew. Thanks for the added info about the V-techs Dark_5.0.
A friend of mine's been blabbing about how he's gonna build himself a 10sec honda for $7000 ![]()
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351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body |
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Registered Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tampa,FLORIDA
Posts: 340
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![]() maybe he meant 10 in the 1/8th? just a thought.
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5.0, Holley heads, 1.7 Scorp Rockers, Stealth intake, Holley 600 carb, Holley Mech. Fuel pump, MSD 6Digital, MSD distributor, Hotchkis upper/lower rear control arms, FMS B Springs, 3:73 (8.8) rear. Production # 9,377 |
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 60
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![]() You could build a 10 sec honda with $7000...if you stole most of the parts.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Staging lane
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B18 4 cylinder with tranny $3,000.00 E-bay used Flat top Integra pistons $300.00 E-bay 2 aggresive cams $500.00 4 throttle body induction $1,200.00 4 to 1 long tube header $500.00 Timing gears $250.00 slicks $300.00 255 LPH fuel pump $100.00 70 shot of Nitrous $500.00 _____________ $ 6,650.00 Considering you did all the work your self the engine could be set-up tp run 10's for 7,000.00. By the time you got a roll cage welded in and al;l the suspension work you would need you are looking at 10,000 minimum.
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92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer |
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 60
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![]() there is no way in hell a civic will make it into 10's without atleast 3k in suspension work. I mean ****, i see race teams putting like 30k into their cars to make them hit low 9's
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347ci of HORSE POWER!!!
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,416
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![]() The only way to get an Honda into the 10's with no more then 10K of cash is to drop in a V8
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Amarillo, Texas, USA
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![]() Some guy I read about last year has a Saturn turning 9's. Saturn block and head, turbocharged and Lord knows what else. It is still FWD so ??? It's pushing over 400 horses.
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1986 four-eyed LX coupe, 358 Cleveland, Tremec TKO600/centerforce clutch, dish cut Probe forged pistons, comp cams hyd.roller cam, .579/.588@224/230, Edel.performer, 670 holley street avenger, CPR custom built long tubes, ported and polished 4bbl heads, manley valves, beehive springs, MSD peo-billet dist/MSD6AL, fluidamper, 5 lug conv. with 17x8 bullits there's more but it's still not finished yet. Oh, and the oldest boy is turning his 89 GT into a FFR cobra this next summer. |
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Backyard Mechanic/Chemist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Acton MA USA
Posts: 435
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![]() The newer Saturn L sedan ( the larger one) is actually rear wheel drive, the same chasis as the Caddy Cetera or CTS, or the Aussie Holden Commadore ( the sedan with the T-56 and LS-1 or LS-6). They are avail with a V-6 but the real power builder is the base 4 cyl.
This is the new GM Eccotec 2.2 L motor, only 145 hp in stock form. But if you read Car craft etc, according to GM this motor has enormous power potential. The stock bottom end can take almost 400 hp, and with aftermarket crank and rods and the stock block can hold over 600 hp. They made some drag Cavaliers that were still FWD. Don't know what this world is coming to, but slicks on a FWD car dont look right to me ![]()
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2001 Crown Vic Maurader Airbox/MAF, DR chip Edel IAS shocks Single exhaust :wtf: 93 P-71 Vic interceptor Backup car now 90 5.0 LX Notch SOLD 74 Chevy Laguna type S-3 454 under construction Currently apart undergoing bodywork. |
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Gonzales, Louisiana
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Also, Dark_5.0, if you know so much about Hondas, one would think you'd know that it's VTEC and not V-tec... |
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Staging lane
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![]() V-tec or Vtec or Vtech...........It doesnt matter, I dont claim to know so much. I only claim to have totaly rebuilt 2 VTEC engines.
I was only offering up what I know and sharing my experience. I really do appreciate you finding and pointing out my grammatical error. Thanks for caring, ![]()
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