How to run 12's?

smokedchevy · 04-01-2001, 10:40 PM

Any one out there run in the 12's? I would like to get a few hints. So far I've run a best of 15.57 at 87mph with my 92 GT. It was at LACR with an elevation of 3000ft. Stock motor, 4:10 gears, centerforce kevlar clutch, off-road H-pipe, and 255-15 street tires. 2.260 60' time(not good) and a lackluster 15.87. However, within the next month I'm going to get an A-trim vortech and 26x10" slicks. Where would you suggest I go from here? I also have a 6# powerdyne in my garage, but I'd rather sell it and get the Vortech.

Michelle Page · 04-02-2001, 12:05 AM

Put the GT on a diet! Find some ways to shed some weight. Sounds like you also need to invest in some aftermarket heads and an intake. My coupe has been in the low 12's naturally aspirated with the AFR heads, Cobra intake, and a few other things. Low 11's with the spray.

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1966 Mustang The long term project
1988 Mustang coupe The fast one Cobra intake, AFR heads, Ultradyne cam, 3.73's. 8 pt. cage, more to come!

Nicks5.0 · 04-03-2001, 03:46 AM

well, if the A trim and slicks are on their way, i dont see why you wouldnt run 12's as is, but michelle has a good point. im all about losing weight off of my car. you could start by throwing the battery in the trunk. even with the slow 60ft, something seems amiss as to why you are that slow? did you maybe let off before the traps? i realize the elevation, but 87 is not a good trap at all. how much does your stang weigh??? what were you shifting at? driving alone can probly shed mucho et from that mid 15. heads and intake will make a big diff once you are seeing 5psi.

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1990lx coupe, balanced 302, gt40p heads, wolv 1087 cam, 1.7rr's, 65mm tb, 75mm maf, comp box on top of cobra lower, anderson ford pms, full exhaust, drag type susp. and tubular front end, 3.55's. traps 105mph before some mods, look for 110mph very soon

Skyman · 04-03-2001, 01:25 PM

Hey whatsup, Looks like your really close to me. I am in Ojai just a little way from you in Ventura there. LACR sucks. I go out to carlsbad and I ran 9mph better there!! So what does that tell you. Dont get discouraged, Your running mid 14's atleast on a decent track. Anyways seeing your so close and all it'd be cool to check out your car sometime. give me an email or something. Also have you done your timing yet, and is your car in good tune?

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

joey50gt · 04-03-2001, 02:52 PM

hey man how much are you willing to sell that powerdine sc for?

04-03-2001, 04:56 PM

Hey Smoked! I would agree w/ Michelle - shed some poundage. Lose the A/C (if it's not a daily driver), the rear seat, get a fiberglass hood/hatch). But anyway, this is how I got in the 12's:

'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

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04-03-2001, 05:14 PM

Hey Smoked! I'd agree w/ Michelle......shed some poundage: dump the A/C (unless it's your daily ride), get rid of the rear seats, switch to a fiberglass hood/hatch. But anyway, this is how I got into the 12's:

'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

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Skyman · 04-04-2001, 01:02 AM

My car runs 12.5's and it still got A/C. I just pulled the rear seat, but Im sure it'd still hit 12.5's with it in. I dont think it even lost hardly any weight at all. I just dont want people to have the option to ride in the back

SKy

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

Skyman · 04-08-2001, 03:45 PM

You ever gonna respond smokedchevy?

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

93CobraR · 04-08-2001, 05:36 PM

I have just about the same mods as you and my car runs 12.9's. It just takes traction and a good driver.

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87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's.
Best time 12.96
Best MPH 103.42
Best 60' 1.695

Visit my site at:
http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

Dark Knight · 04-09-2001, 02:49 AM

the 3000ft altitude doenst help either

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84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives stock shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day
265 on the mph/weight chart

smokedchevy · 04-09-2001, 03:18 AM

Sorry Sky I sent you an e-mail but I guess you didn't get it. I'll try again. Anyways I consider myself a fairly good driver at launching and shifting a stick. It gets rubber in all four gears. I've just fixed my powerdyne with 6#'s of boost and I'm getting slicks real soon. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I'd rather have a Vortech, but this will do for know. I'm going to try and get up to LACR by the end of this month.

smokedchevy · 04-09-2001, 03:20 AM

Sorry Sky I sent you an e-mail but I guess you didn't get it. I'll try again. Anyways I consider myself a fairly good driver at launching and shifting a stick. It gets rubber in all four gears. I've just fixed my powerdyne with 6#'s of boost and I'm getting slicks real soon. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I'd rather have a Vortech, but this will do for know. I'm going to try and get up to LACR by the end of this month.

04-01-2001, 10:40 PM	#1
smokedchevy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: ventura,CA Posts: 438	How to run 12's? Any one out there run in the 12's? I would like to get a few hints. So far I've run a best of 15.57 at 87mph with my 92 GT. It was at LACR with an elevation of 3000ft. Stock motor, 4:10 gears, centerforce kevlar clutch, off-road H-pipe, and 255-15 street tires. 2.260 60' time(not good) and a lackluster 15.87. However, within the next month I'm going to get an A-trim vortech and 26x10" slicks. Where would you suggest I go from here? I also have a 6# powerdyne in my garage, but I'd rather sell it and get the Vortech.

04-02-2001, 12:05 AM	#2
Michelle Page Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 102	Put the GT on a diet! Find some ways to shed some weight. Sounds like you also need to invest in some aftermarket heads and an intake. My coupe has been in the low 12's naturally aspirated with the AFR heads, Cobra intake, and a few other things. Low 11's with the spray. ------------------ 1966 Mustang The long term project 1988 Mustang coupe The fast one Cobra intake, AFR heads, Ultradyne cam, 3.73's. 8 pt. cage, more to come!

04-03-2001, 03:46 AM	#3
Nicks5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Belleville Il, USA Posts: 234	well, if the A trim and slicks are on their way, i dont see why you wouldnt run 12's as is, but michelle has a good point. im all about losing weight off of my car. you could start by throwing the battery in the trunk. even with the slow 60ft, something seems amiss as to why you are that slow? did you maybe let off before the traps? i realize the elevation, but 87 is not a good trap at all. how much does your stang weigh??? what were you shifting at? driving alone can probly shed mucho et from that mid 15. heads and intake will make a big diff once you are seeing 5psi. ------------------ 1990lx coupe, balanced 302, gt40p heads, wolv 1087 cam, 1.7rr's, 65mm tb, 75mm maf, comp box on top of cobra lower, anderson ford pms, full exhaust, drag type susp. and tubular front end, 3.55's. traps 105mph before some mods, look for 110mph very soon

04-03-2001, 01:25 PM	#4
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Hey whatsup, Looks like your really close to me. I am in Ojai just a little way from you in Ventura there. LACR sucks. I go out to carlsbad and I ran 9mph better there!! So what does that tell you. Dont get discouraged, Your running mid 14's atleast on a decent track. Anyways seeing your so close and all it'd be cool to check out your car sometime. give me an email or something. Also have you done your timing yet, and is your car in good tune? Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

04-03-2001, 02:52 PM	#5
joey50gt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: hurst,texas,america Posts: 95	hey man how much are you willing to sell that powerdine sc for?

04-03-2001, 04:56 PM	#6
1mintlx Guest Posts: n/a	Hey Smoked! I would agree w/ Michelle - shed some poundage. Lose the A/C (if it's not a daily driver), the rear seat, get a fiberglass hood/hatch). But anyway, this is how I got in the 12's: '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph ------------------

04-03-2001, 05:14 PM	#7
1mintlx Guest Posts: n/a	Hey Smoked! I'd agree w/ Michelle......shed some poundage: dump the A/C (unless it's your daily ride), get rid of the rear seats, switch to a fiberglass hood/hatch. But anyway, this is how I got into the 12's: '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph ------------------

04-04-2001, 01:02 AM	#8
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	My car runs 12.5's and it still got A/C. I just pulled the rear seat, but Im sure it'd still hit 12.5's with it in. I dont think it even lost hardly any weight at all. I just dont want people to have the option to ride in the back SKy ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

04-08-2001, 03:45 PM	#9
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	You ever gonna respond smokedchevy? Sky ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Runs on 87 Octane and gets 24mpg!

04-08-2001, 05:36 PM	#10
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	I have just about the same mods as you and my car runs 12.9's. It just takes traction and a good driver. ------------------ 87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 12.96 Best MPH 103.42 Best 60' 1.695 Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

04-09-2001, 02:49 AM	#11
Dark Knight Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Az Posts: 854	the 3000ft altitude doenst help either ------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart

04-09-2001, 03:18 AM	#12
smokedchevy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: ventura,CA Posts: 438	Sorry Sky I sent you an e-mail but I guess you didn't get it. I'll try again. Anyways I consider myself a fairly good driver at launching and shifting a stick. It gets rubber in all four gears. I've just fixed my powerdyne with 6#'s of boost and I'm getting slicks real soon. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I'd rather have a Vortech, but this will do for know. I'm going to try and get up to LACR by the end of this month.

04-09-2001, 03:20 AM	#13
smokedchevy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: ventura,CA Posts: 438	Sorry Sky I sent you an e-mail but I guess you didn't get it. I'll try again. Anyways I consider myself a fairly good driver at launching and shifting a stick. It gets rubber in all four gears. I've just fixed my powerdyne with 6#'s of boost and I'm getting slicks real soon. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I'd rather have a Vortech, but this will do for know. I'm going to try and get up to LACR by the end of this month.