help T-5 experts? shifter a bad choice??

90dpscoupe · 05-30-2001, 10:42 PM

Ok, actually the hurst shifts good, but my tranny has been whining for a while now, well the hurst doesnt have all the rubber in it, like the stocker, therfore im getting a nasty noise, "drive noise" and i was told from my friend, it is synchros? it whines only 1st-3rd, i guess a rebuild is gonna be needed, about how much should this cost?

It only whines when im giving it gas?? someone help

im gonna have to put the stock shifter in now cuz i cant take the noise, and i already cut the rubber boot. Man im stressed...what should i do?

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90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

blueneonman1 · 05-31-2001, 01:00 AM

Is it gear whine you hear? I got my GT with 3k miles on it. Ever since I had it, I get a gear whine, but only in 3rd. I haven't had to service the tranny at all.

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Best time: 14.578 @96.20mph

90dpscoupe · 05-31-2001, 02:24 AM

I appreciate the reply, but im afraid its more than gear noise, i have heard 5.0's with no noise, and this is pretty bad, some people think i have a blower, i still dont know what to think, im gonna try to put all the rubber on the hurst, off the stock, and see if i can get some of that noise down, but its like i hear something slowing down with the motor when i stop too, like the throwout bearing? but its worse with the short throw, it may be really worn, it is used. If anyone else knows what i can do, or how much a rebuild would be...post plz

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90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

Rick 91GT · 05-31-2001, 07:35 AM

If it whines and sounds like a supercharger on acceleration and deceleration, I will bet it is the imput shaft getting ready to let go. Although you may get away with it for a while it will fail. As for parts to do the rebuild correctly, new imput shaft, contershaft, 2nd and 3rd gears, and the rebuild kit will run $550. I could rebuild it but the shipping would probably kill you from TX to PA. I would call D&D or Hanlon for the parts, either should have them in stock. The aftermarket shifter will increase the road noice heard through the shifter because it is a soild nice piece not the flimsy poor excuse for a shifter that the stock one is. If it were the syncros it should grind or pop in or out of gear or sometimes not want to go into gear, 2nd gear has trangle shaped ares to allow the gears to slide in, it is famous for getting flat when power shifting. The reaseon you only here it in 1st-3rd is 4th gear is a direct drive and has a lot of load on the tranny so it is there but is harder to hear it.

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Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!

90dpscoupe · 06-04-2001, 11:11 PM

No, it only whines on acceleration, and 5th gr is starting to sound worse, i'll call d&d and ask what im going to need, i dont want to spend 500 $$ on parts, but i may replace throwout bearing, and input, hopefully wont spend over 300$, thanx for the help, but if its only on acceleration, then that means its the inputshaft right?

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90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

Rick 91GT · 06-05-2001, 07:35 AM

I too was just going to replace the imput shaft but after a long conversation with Don Jr, he convinced me to replace the countershaft as well. That way you have new meshing new, not a new imput shaft running against a old countershaft, I too realize it was a lot of money but Don Jr said I could go ahead and replace the shaft alone but it most likely won't last and I would be buying another one plus the countershaft in no time. Now 4 years ago I did just replace the imput shaft as my countershaft appeared fine, but with all the new parts mine has now it shifts better then ever nice smooth and strong. Time to bite the bullet and replace it all, I replaced 2nd and 3rd while I was at it because now I have all new gears meshing, and 3rd gear was flat, damn powershifts

It will be money well spent, let me know what Don Jr has to say.

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Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!

[This message has been edited by Rick 91GT (edited 06-05-2001).]

05-30-2001, 10:42 PM	#1
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	help T-5 experts? shifter a bad choice?? Ok, actually the hurst shifts good, but my tranny has been whining for a while now, well the hurst doesnt have all the rubber in it, like the stocker, therfore im getting a nasty noise, "drive noise" and i was told from my friend, it is synchros? it whines only 1st-3rd, i guess a rebuild is gonna be needed, about how much should this cost? It only whines when im giving it gas?? someone help im gonna have to put the stock shifter in now cuz i cant take the noise, and i already cut the rubber boot. Man im stressed...what should i do? ------------------ 90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 98.17 Best 60': 1.9607 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

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05-31-2001, 01:00 AM	#2
blueneonman1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 208	Is it gear whine you hear? I got my GT with 3k miles on it. Ever since I had it, I get a gear whine, but only in 3rd. I haven't had to service the tranny at all. ------------------ Blueneonman - '95 5.0L Mustang GT Convertible \| K&N Custom Cold Air Intake \| FMS 9mm Wires \| Hollow Cats \| Flowmaster 2 Chambers \| BBK Subframes \| 6-pt Rollcage \| 14deg Timing \| King Cobra Clutch \| FMS Adjustable Clutch Cable \| Coolest Neon Lighting on a Mustang EVER! Homepage: http://www16.brinkster.com/blueneonman/ Best time: 14.578 @96.20mph

05-31-2001, 02:24 AM	#3
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	I appreciate the reply, but im afraid its more than gear noise, i have heard 5.0's with no noise, and this is pretty bad, some people think i have a blower, i still dont know what to think, im gonna try to put all the rubber on the hurst, off the stock, and see if i can get some of that noise down, but its like i hear something slowing down with the motor when i stop too, like the throwout bearing? but its worse with the short throw, it may be really worn, it is used. If anyone else knows what i can do, or how much a rebuild would be...post plz ------------------ 90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 98.17 Best 60': 1.9607 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

05-31-2001, 07:35 AM	#4
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	If it whines and sounds like a supercharger on acceleration and deceleration, I will bet it is the imput shaft getting ready to let go. Although you may get away with it for a while it will fail. As for parts to do the rebuild correctly, new imput shaft, contershaft, 2nd and 3rd gears, and the rebuild kit will run $550. I could rebuild it but the shipping would probably kill you from TX to PA. I would call D&D or Hanlon for the parts, either should have them in stock. The aftermarket shifter will increase the road noice heard through the shifter because it is a soild nice piece not the flimsy poor excuse for a shifter that the stock one is. If it were the syncros it should grind or pop in or out of gear or sometimes not want to go into gear, 2nd gear has trangle shaped ares to allow the gears to slide in, it is famous for getting flat when power shifting. The reaseon you only here it in 1st-3rd is 4th gear is a direct drive and has a lot of load on the tranny so it is there but is harder to hear it. ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!

06-04-2001, 11:11 PM	#5
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	No, it only whines on acceleration, and 5th gr is starting to sound worse, i'll call d&d and ask what im going to need, i dont want to spend 500 $$ on parts, but i may replace throwout bearing, and input, hopefully wont spend over 300$, thanx for the help, but if its only on acceleration, then that means its the inputshaft right? ------------------ 90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 98.17 Best 60': 1.9607 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

06-05-2001, 07:35 AM	#6
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	I too was just going to replace the imput shaft but after a long conversation with Don Jr, he convinced me to replace the countershaft as well. That way you have new meshing new, not a new imput shaft running against a old countershaft, I too realize it was a lot of money but Don Jr said I could go ahead and replace the shaft alone but it most likely won't last and I would be buying another one plus the countershaft in no time. Now 4 years ago I did just replace the imput shaft as my countershaft appeared fine, but with all the new parts mine has now it shifts better then ever nice smooth and strong. Time to bite the bullet and replace it all, I replaced 2nd and 3rd while I was at it because now I have all new gears meshing, and 3rd gear was flat, damn powershifts It will be money well spent, let me know what Don Jr has to say. ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! [This message has been edited by Rick 91GT (edited 06-05-2001).]