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Just me 06-29-2001 03:15 PM

I can't figure this out
 
Ok. I've got this anoying problem which has kept me from driving my stang for a week. Maybe you can help. When I start my engine at any given time all is ok until I start to drive. The car starts of ok and then about a minute later I loose quarter throttle completely. If I try apply gas to quarter throttle at this point, the car just bucks and backfires. If I pull over and let it idle for a minute, the throttle surges a little then I can drive the car(wont run 100%) till I turn it off again. I've changed the fuel filter, plugs, cap and rotor, fuel relay, o2 sensors. I've Disconnected the TPS, EGR, checked all vacuum lines, and reset the computer. Any ideas? Thanks.
I'm about to tear down the entire car

Just me 06-29-2001 03:18 PM

Sorry here are my spec:

ust me
91'lx, 302 block, crank pulley, no smog, short belt, Wolverine 1087 cam, 15 deg timing, TFS TW heads, motorsport 1.6 3/8 stud RR, ARP studs, TFS chrome hardened push rods, 24lb inj, BBK 255lph fuel pump, Areomotive billet adj FPR, Performer RPM intake(ported to 75mm), 1" spacer, Motorsport polished tall valve covers(love em), Pro-M 77, Acufab 75mm TB, Ford idle air bypass valve, K&N conical, MSD 6AL and coil, 9mm MS cables, NGK bkr5e 11 plugs@55, motorsport 3 core radiator,160 thermostat, Hurst short throw, motorsport 410 gears, aluminum drive shaft,Kenny brown Subs, Mac 1 3/4"Long tube, custom 3"off road xpipe, 2 chamber Flow Masters, 3 1/2" tailpipes HAL tubular K-member, KYB struts and shocks, Eibach springs, Steeda 2.5" Cowl, Steeda rear wing, black Dupont centari acrylic enamel paint. Going for an electric fan setup with a blower.

Just me 06-29-2001 05:41 PM

Nevermind. I finally figured it out.
Thanks anyway guys.

BennyBoy 06-29-2001 06:22 PM

What was it?

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Capri306 06-30-2001 02:26 AM

*Bet he left a sensor disconnected, heeheehee*

Thad 06-30-2001 07:11 AM

YEah don't leave us hanging! What was the problem?

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2FastLX 06-30-2001 04:40 PM

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Just me 07-01-2001 02:05 PM

I havn't fixed it. It seemed that I fixed it by reseting my computer, but then it came back the next time I drove the car. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggg ggggggggggggggggggg. I hate this!
Any help would be appreciate it. I made another post today without checking if this one was still around. Just disregard the other one. Thanks. Oh and if you guys got any ideas please let me know.

PKRWUD 07-01-2001 11:39 PM

Any codes?

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Capri306 07-02-2001 12:13 AM

I'd say replace the TPS (make sure you reset the computer again and tweak it to 0.995V), and borrow a friend's good-and-working MAF meter. I would think it'd have to be one of the two items.

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PKRWUD 07-02-2001 12:21 AM

No offense, Capri, but advising a TPS adjustment that high is not healthy. There is no noticeable difference between .95 and .995 to the driver, but it brings it dangerously close to the ECM reading it as 1 volt, at which point the ECM determines you are no longer at idle. It's been a popular myth that adjusting the TPS that high increases performance, but in reality, it's just in peoples heads. The TPS is a very good suggestion, though! I was leaning that way myself, but wanted to see if there were any fresh codes after resetting the ECM before recommending any money be spent.

Take care
~Chris

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Just me 07-02-2001 07:34 PM

Thanks for the responses. I doubt that my problem lies between my TPS or MAF meter as the car runs perfect after the problem goes away. Remember this problem only happens when I start the car and run it for a few minutes. After which the problem occurs for about twenty seconds and then it doesn't come back till I start the car again. One thing that is consistent as well, is the idle drops dramatically and then comes back up to normal when the problem goes away. I don't attempt to rev the engine or it will backfire. I think it a freakin conspiracy!
I treat her good. Why does she do this to me.
wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

sweet88coupe 07-04-2001 03:00 AM

just me,

try the MAP sensor, my 88 had somewhat the same problem and the vacuum line was off the MAP sensor, but you said you checked all the lines, replace the MAP sensor for kicks!!! I think that will cure your problem.

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Just me 07-05-2001 11:17 AM

Thanks sweet88coupe, I'll give it a try. Will post results.

2FastLX 07-29-2001 11:52 PM

Do you have long tubes on your car? If so it may be a problem with your O2's not reading correctly until the car gets warmed up. Just a thought because my car started this right after the long tube install.

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