Lap top tuning????

88workcar · 01-23-2003, 06:45 AM

My wife broght hame a bad a55 lap top for me for our aniversary. What is the stuff to get to tune the car? I am not looking for a flame war, just options, and opinions.

VeNuM · 01-23-2003, 09:15 AM

TwEECer is pretty big and I know a lot of people who like it, I've heard that you have to be very knowledgeable on what all the adjustments do in it though. You could also setup a Anderson PMS and have your laptop record data. Those are the only ones off the top of my head, I know there's more out there though. ~Brian

Dark_5.0 · 01-23-2003, 11:34 AM

Laptop tuning is great for turbo/supercharged cars. All of the N/A guys I have seen laptop tuning dont really run any better.

Just dont do like that guy on The Fast and the Furious and punch buttons while you are racing.

I have an old Toshiba laptop I was thiking about hooking up to my stang but I figured with my mild set-up it wouldnt do much good.

Later,

GodStang · 01-23-2003, 11:48 AM

I think big on the Think that there is a program called ACCELL. I seen it in MM&FF.

88workcar · 01-23-2003, 12:32 PM

Well I do have a supercharger in the closet, But I don't want to simply monitor what going on, I would like to alter it.

stangsrule · 01-23-2003, 01:06 PM

I had my mind made up I was going to get a PMS till I did some research and found out that the TwEECer RT does more for a lot less. Yes, it is not something that will be just plug and play and it does have a steep learning curve (I am still low on that curve) but it allows you to go in and change pretty much anything the computer controls and it data logs too! Check out these links: http://tweecer.oplnk.net/ http://www.tweecer.com/

I am getting ready to purchase a wideband to hook-up and data log to my TwEECer. With this setup I won't need the dyno for anything but bragging rights.

There are other units out there and some of them may be easier to use (the TwEECer is pretty new and it will get better as time passes, Mike Glover the owner of the company is always working on improvements and new features for it...) but I don't think any of them will do as much for the money. The more mods you have the more you will gain from something like this. Check out this guys gains:

"I went and got the car dynoed again today after installing the 83# injectors. I knew beforehand that the car was running pretty crappily, and took that into account when tuning. The first pass was a crappy 499.3/492.4 with the A/F ratio going less than 10:1 at 4600. A few pulls later with help from my trusty tweecer yielded 612 rwhp @ 6150 and 526.9 rwtq @ 6100 rpm."

That is on one of the links I posted above.

Good luck with whatever you decide!

WADS56 · 01-23-2003, 01:40 PM

Am i reading this right stangsrule? Did you say that you put down 612hp to the wheels

? What is your part list for that kind of power?

Wade

stangsrule · 01-23-2003, 02:28 PM

No, sorry if I didn't make that clear, it was a copy and paste from the TwEECer web site and is what some guy out in Texas achieved with the TwEECer on his combo. Check it out (and others) here: http://www.tweecer.com/results.html
I have yet to do serious tuning with my TwEECer as my car is parked right now, and I won't have that much HP at the wheels!

Maybe at the flywheel with the nitrous...

88workcar · 01-25-2003, 09:47 PM

They are not taking an orders right now. I think the RT is what I'll get.

stangsrule · 01-25-2003, 10:33 PM

What little bit I have played with mine has really impressed me. And being able to data log is just too cool!!!

Not to mention that it can become invaluable for troubleshooting and tuning issues. It is pretty complicated/confusing at first but there are plenty of others out there willing to help out and answer questions so that makes it a lot better. I think you will like it.

drtbiker · 01-26-2003, 12:32 AM

just a quick question you can use that with sd? right hmmm, that is pretty cool i never new i could pull that off with my laptop

go for it 88 tell me how it works
i might have to invest

88workcar · 01-26-2003, 07:45 PM

I am not sure of the SD, mabey.

01-23-2003, 06:45 AM	#1
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Lap top tuning???? My wife broght hame a bad a55 lap top for me for our aniversary. What is the stuff to get to tune the car? I am not looking for a flame war, just options, and opinions. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

01-23-2003, 09:15 AM	#2
VeNuM Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Downers Grove, IL Posts: 464	TwEECer is pretty big and I know a lot of people who like it, I've heard that you have to be very knowledgeable on what all the adjustments do in it though. You could also setup a Anderson PMS and have your laptop record data. Those are the only ones off the top of my head, I know there's more out there though. ~Brian __________________ 1989 Black Mustang GT Hatchback, Underdrive Pulles, Electric Fan, Cold Air Intake, Headers, Offroad H-Pipe, Magnaflow catback, Steeda Tri-Ax, Fluidyne Aluminum Radiator, Timing at 14*, 3.73's Coming not so soon: 408w Ricer Hater's Club Member #59

01-23-2003, 11:34 AM	#3
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Laptop tuning is great for turbo/supercharged cars. All of the N/A guys I have seen laptop tuning dont really run any better. Just dont do like that guy on The Fast and the Furious and punch buttons while you are racing. I have an old Toshiba laptop I was thiking about hooking up to my stang but I figured with my mild set-up it wouldnt do much good. Later, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-23-2003, 11:48 AM	#4
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	I think big on the Think that there is a program called ACCELL. I seen it in MM&FF. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

01-23-2003, 12:32 PM	#5
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Well I do have a supercharger in the closet, But I don't want to simply monitor what going on, I would like to alter it. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

01-23-2003, 01:06 PM	#6
stangsrule Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Indiana Posts: 512	I had my mind made up I was going to get a PMS till I did some research and found out that the TwEECer RT does more for a lot less. Yes, it is not something that will be just plug and play and it does have a steep learning curve (I am still low on that curve) but it allows you to go in and change pretty much anything the computer controls and it data logs too! Check out these links: http://tweecer.oplnk.net/ http://www.tweecer.com/ I am getting ready to purchase a wideband to hook-up and data log to my TwEECer. With this setup I won't need the dyno for anything but bragging rights. There are other units out there and some of them may be easier to use (the TwEECer is pretty new and it will get better as time passes, Mike Glover the owner of the company is always working on improvements and new features for it...) but I don't think any of them will do as much for the money. The more mods you have the more you will gain from something like this. Check out this guys gains: "I went and got the car dynoed again today after installing the 83# injectors. I knew beforehand that the car was running pretty crappily, and took that into account when tuning. The first pass was a crappy 499.3/492.4 with the A/F ratio going less than 10:1 at 4600. A few pulls later with help from my trusty tweecer yielded 612 rwhp @ 6150 and 526.9 rwtq @ 6100 rpm." That is on one of the links I posted above. Good luck with whatever you decide! __________________ 92GT Lowered with Ebiach's and Koni's, Kenny Brown subframe connectors, lower G-brace and jacking rails. BBK upper and lower control arms, polyurethane bushings all around and Ken Bell blower, ram-air, 80mm mass air, SMC Alky Injection kit, J&S Knock Gaurd, TwEECer RT and a bunch of other stuff! Last edited by stangsrule; 01-23-2003 at 02:30 PM..

01-23-2003, 01:40 PM	#7
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	Am i reading this right stangsrule? Did you say that you put down 612hp to the wheels ? What is your part list for that kind of power? Wade __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

01-23-2003, 02:28 PM	#8
stangsrule Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Indiana Posts: 512	No, sorry if I didn't make that clear, it was a copy and paste from the TwEECer web site and is what some guy out in Texas achieved with the TwEECer on his combo. Check it out (and others) here: http://www.tweecer.com/results.html I have yet to do serious tuning with my TwEECer as my car is parked right now, and I won't have that much HP at the wheels! Maybe at the flywheel with the nitrous... __________________ 92GT Lowered with Ebiach's and Koni's, Kenny Brown subframe connectors, lower G-brace and jacking rails. BBK upper and lower control arms, polyurethane bushings all around and Ken Bell blower, ram-air, 80mm mass air, SMC Alky Injection kit, J&S Knock Gaurd, TwEECer RT and a bunch of other stuff!

01-25-2003, 09:47 PM	#9
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	They are not taking an orders right now. I think the RT is what I'll get. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

01-25-2003, 10:33 PM	#10
stangsrule Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Indiana Posts: 512	What little bit I have played with mine has really impressed me. And being able to data log is just too cool!!! Not to mention that it can become invaluable for troubleshooting and tuning issues. It is pretty complicated/confusing at first but there are plenty of others out there willing to help out and answer questions so that makes it a lot better. I think you will like it. __________________ 92GT Lowered with Ebiach's and Koni's, Kenny Brown subframe connectors, lower G-brace and jacking rails. BBK upper and lower control arms, polyurethane bushings all around and Ken Bell blower, ram-air, 80mm mass air, SMC Alky Injection kit, J&S Knock Gaurd, TwEECer RT and a bunch of other stuff!

01-26-2003, 12:32 AM	#11
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	just a quick question you can use that with sd? right hmmm, that is pretty cool i never new i could pull that off with my laptop go for it 88 tell me how it works i might have to invest __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

01-26-2003, 07:45 PM	#12
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	I am not sure of the SD, mabey. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

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