long tubes or shortys

5ohCOUPE · 11-13-2001, 05:37 PM

I was wondering if i would gain any if i went to long tubes. I have 1 5/8 unequal shortys. I was thinking of going to 1 5/8 long tubes. what do you guys think?

gtsr515 · 11-13-2001, 07:52 PM

You would definetley gain about 10 horse, but driveability would suffer. Stay with the shorties.

dinomite · 11-13-2001, 08:14 PM

You would gain a little bit of torque, but its not worth the money or trouble, considering you will have to get a new h pipe as well.

Neil · 11-13-2001, 08:43 PM

I dont know how much you would gain going to long tubes but I dont think I would. I have them on my 89 gt and the are a pain. I just changed over from a t-5 to a c-4 last weekend and dealing with the headers was the worst part of it

Coupe5oh · 11-13-2001, 09:16 PM

you cant go wrong with them, you will get a rowdy sound, and a power gain, i dont see how drivability will decrease? just my .02

smallblock · 11-13-2001, 11:12 PM

i say go with longtubes. my 12 second recipe is longtubes, k&n, 4.10's,slicks and a healthy dose of N.O.S.
long tubes more room to grow

Unit 5302 · 11-14-2001, 12:39 AM

Driveability will improve with long tubes. Losing driveability when compared to shorties is nonsense.

The long tubes will not only give you more power, but they will also increase your low end and mid range torque. They are vastly superior to shorties when it comes to performance. Obviously the installation is significantly harder, and they do get in the way more when working underneath.

Are they worth the kind of money you are talking about over the shorties that you already have? That's questionable.

SaleenGTS · 11-14-2001, 09:19 AM

I don't know why everyone thinks Long Tubes are such a pain to install....think about it...it is as easy as Equal lengths (atleast mine were) and it is easier to change plugs, gaskets, pull the h-pipe, change O2 sensors....PLUS the power and torque gains. Changing gaskets on my equals was a pain in the rear....not is it a 20 minutes piece of cake. Installation does take a little more time, but it isn't that bad. Driveability won't change a bit either, also, they are also a little quieter until you get into the gas.

I say go for it, you will lose nothing, and gain more...especially with future mods.

Also, the guy that just swapped out trannys...some companies make a different L/T just for Auto's.....that may have been why you had problems.

Dang...I am in a bad mood this morning. Sorry guys if I came across rude, not my intention.

11-13-2001, 05:37 PM	#1
5ohCOUPE Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ORANGE PARK FL. USA Posts: 208	long tubes or shortys I was wondering if i would gain any if i went to long tubes. I have 1 5/8 unequal shortys. I was thinking of going to 1 5/8 long tubes. what do you guys think? __________________ 91 LX COUPE, 3.73 gears, 2 1/2 inch H-Pipe, 1 5/8 MAC long tube headers, 73 MM C&L MAF, 70 MM MAC TB, LUNATI cam,1.7 TFS Rockers, TFS Track Heat heads, TFS Track Heat intake, T5 with PRO 5.0 shifter, Griffin aluminum radiator, Fluid Damper, SSM traction bars, 190 GPH in tank fuel pump. And more to come.

11-13-2001, 07:52 PM	#2
gtsr515 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sunny, Hot, Sebring, Florida Posts: 725	You would definetley gain about 10 horse, but driveability would suffer. Stay with the shorties. __________________ Remember...2nd place is 1st place for losers!

11-13-2001, 08:43 PM	#4
Neil Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Waynesboro,Mississippi,U.S.A. Posts: 3	long tubes I dont know how much you would gain going to long tubes but I dont think I would. I have them on my 89 gt and the are a pain. I just changed over from a t-5 to a c-4 last weekend and dealing with the headers was the worst part of it

11-13-2001, 09:16 PM	#5
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	you cant go wrong with them, you will get a rowdy sound, and a power gain, i dont see how drivability will decrease? just my .02 __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-13-2001, 11:12 PM	#6
smallblock Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 15	long tubes i say go with longtubes. my 12 second recipe is longtubes, k&n, 4.10's,slicks and a healthy dose of N.O.S. long tubes more room to grow __________________ SMALLBLOCKPOSSE

11-13-2001, 08:14 PM	#3
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	You would gain a little bit of torque, but its not worth the money or trouble, considering you will have to get a new h pipe as well.

11-14-2001, 12:39 AM	#7
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Driveability will improve with long tubes. Losing driveability when compared to shorties is nonsense. The long tubes will not only give you more power, but they will also increase your low end and mid range torque. They are vastly superior to shorties when it comes to performance. Obviously the installation is significantly harder, and they do get in the way more when working underneath. Are they worth the kind of money you are talking about over the shorties that you already have? That's questionable.

11-14-2001, 09:19 AM	#8
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	I don't know why everyone thinks Long Tubes are such a pain to install....think about it...it is as easy as Equal lengths (atleast mine were) and it is easier to change plugs, gaskets, pull the h-pipe, change O2 sensors....PLUS the power and torque gains. Changing gaskets on my equals was a pain in the rear....not is it a 20 minutes piece of cake. Installation does take a little more time, but it isn't that bad. Driveability won't change a bit either, also, they are also a little quieter until you get into the gas. I say go for it, you will lose nothing, and gain more...especially with future mods. Also, the guy that just swapped out trannys...some companies make a different L/T just for Auto's.....that may have been why you had problems. Dang...I am in a bad mood this morning. Sorry guys if I came across rude, not my intention. __________________ Dustin 89 Saleen GT Sport Supercharged 306 Started her up 6/8/03 Old Motor Supercharged 347 516 rwhp 553 rwtq 11.249@126.83 1997 Honda CBR 1100XX Super Blackbird 162 hp

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