performance clutch advise

blueneonman1 · 05-01-2001, 04:32 PM

In my aarticle "clutch problem" I stated that I needed to replace the clutch in my '95 Mustang GT with T-5. I have a couple of choices. King Cobra comes with pressure plate, throwout bearing, and disc for $200. RAM HD clutch costs $149 as does ZOOM. Then ZOOM has a multi-friction clutch for $209. RAM also has a powergrip kevlar clutch for $219. My questions are, what is multi-friction? What is the advantage of kevlar? Finally, which is the best deal of the four choices? Thanks.

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NOS_Notch · 05-01-2001, 08:13 PM

how soon b4 you plan on doing a clutch again?? or how much faster will your car be then?
Just get the motorsport.
You don't need anything more than stock really.
I replaced my last clutch about 2-3 years ago...used a stocker again(you can get them for $50)
I run 12's and don't have problems.
2-3 years on 12's is about all they are good for.
Also if you are in a lot of city traffic...the heavier pedal might annoy you w/ the others.

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93CobraR · 05-01-2001, 09:17 PM

Get the King Cobra clutch! Cheap and holds up real good.

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Chevyguy · 05-02-2001, 07:40 AM

I have the older style Ford Motorsports clutch # A-302. It went in just like a stocker, the pedal effort is noticably higher but required nothing more than a new stock cable. The King cobra version is supposed to be easier on the effort with about the same holding power. Since the Auto Zone clutch kit is $125 and the low end Ram versions are about $150 I went with the Ford version. I should have waited to get it from Summit as I paid $180 from Fortes since they are 10 min from my house and I didnt get a throwout bearing with it. I did get the FMS new flywheel for $110 a real no brainer since my flywheel had already been cut and had heat crazing on the surface, just bolt the new one on! Since I was quoted $50-$60 for resurfacing the flywheel, and I plan to drive the wheels off this car, go with the good stuff.

All the really good clutches go for $250+ and require a adjustable clutch quadrant etc

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blueneonman1 · 05-02-2001, 10:06 AM

2FastLX · 05-02-2001, 11:25 AM

Does the King Cobra require a new quadrant and cable?

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Mad Horse · 05-02-2001, 11:59 AM

The King Cobra doesn't require a new cable or quadrant. I just put the King Cobra in my car a few weeks back and I love the lighter pedal effort. It might be a good idea to replace the cable and pick up a quadrant as the cable can stretch with use and the factory quadrant is junk.

Chevyguy, $50-$60 to resurface a flywheel is way to high. My local Napa shop resurfaced mine for $25 and it took them 2 hrs. to do it.

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blueneonman1 · 05-02-2001, 12:27 PM

So am I hearing everyone right? No new clutch cable is needed with the King Cobra? I have heard with some aftermarket clutches that a new adjustable one is required because the clutch pedal moves too far. Oh, and another thing, does the King Cobra help your ET? If so, how many 10th's?

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Best time: 14.8 @94mph

fordgasm · 05-02-2001, 12:39 PM

If you are looking for a performance clutch I would recommend the CenterForce dual friction. The pedal pressure is similiar to stock with greater holding pressure. Easy on the street yet tough enough for slicks at the track. It will cost a little more, but worth it in my opinion.

With all performance clutches a new cable and quadrant is recommended. The factory quadrant will not hold up with the heavier clutch.

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Dark_5.0 · 05-02-2001, 12:40 PM

My car came with the king cobra in it when I bought it and I really did not like it the pedal was stiff as hell. There was not even anything wrong with the clutch and I swaped it out with a ford racing clutch. The king cobra sucked for everyday driving the damn thing would were you out but if its quicker ET's that your lookin for the king cobra is bad *** for the strip you can launch hard as hell (In my opinion the best clutch out right now is the centerforce dual friction) You can expect a good clutch to hold 40 to 60% better than stock enabling you to launch real hard and hammer through the gears barking the tires. I have seen a good clutch knock of two to three tenths in the quarter mile. Good Luck

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05-01-2001, 04:32 PM	#1
blueneonman1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 208	performance clutch advise In my aarticle "clutch problem" I stated that I needed to replace the clutch in my '95 Mustang GT with T-5. I have a couple of choices. King Cobra comes with pressure plate, throwout bearing, and disc for $200. RAM HD clutch costs $149 as does ZOOM. Then ZOOM has a multi-friction clutch for $209. RAM also has a powergrip kevlar clutch for $219. My questions are, what is multi-friction? What is the advantage of kevlar? Finally, which is the best deal of the four choices? Thanks. ------------------ Blueneonman - '95 5.0L Mustang GT Convertible \| K&N Drop-in \| FMS 9mm Wires \| Hollow Cats \| Flowmaster 2 Chambers \| Subframes \| 6-pt Rollcage \| 14deg Timing \| Coolest Neon Lighting on a Mustang EVER! Best time: 14.8 @94mph

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05-01-2001, 08:13 PM	#2
NOS_Notch Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fresno,CA. USA Posts: 384	how soon b4 you plan on doing a clutch again?? or how much faster will your car be then? Just get the motorsport. You don't need anything more than stock really. I replaced my last clutch about 2-3 years ago...used a stocker again(you can get them for $50) I run 12's and don't have problems. 2-3 years on 12's is about all they are good for. Also if you are in a lot of city traffic...the heavier pedal might annoy you w/ the others. ------------------ 4.10's,long tubes & 75 shot...Goes 12.50's Check it out at http://www.burnouts.webprovider.com 11's coming soon!!!! Heads,intake and cam are all here

05-01-2001, 09:17 PM	#3
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	Get the King Cobra clutch! Cheap and holds up real good. ------------------ 87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 12.96 Best MPH 103.42 Best 60' 1.695 Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

05-02-2001, 07:40 AM	#4
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	I have the older style Ford Motorsports clutch # A-302. It went in just like a stocker, the pedal effort is noticably higher but required nothing more than a new stock cable. The King cobra version is supposed to be easier on the effort with about the same holding power. Since the Auto Zone clutch kit is $125 and the low end Ram versions are about $150 I went with the Ford version. I should have waited to get it from Summit as I paid $180 from Fortes since they are 10 min from my house and I didnt get a throwout bearing with it. I did get the FMS new flywheel for $110 a real no brainer since my flywheel had already been cut and had heat crazing on the surface, just bolt the new one on! Since I was quoted $50-$60 for resurfacing the flywheel, and I plan to drive the wheels off this car, go with the good stuff. All the really good clutches go for $250+ and require a adjustable clutch quadrant etc ------------------ Frank W 90 5.0 LX coupe Daily driver. Silencer removed, K&N filter. Flexalite fan, 3 core radiator. FMS flywheel and Clutch 88 Notch 2.3L 5 speed Parts/beater car 74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 fixing soon, getting a 454 to put in garage www.chevellepages.com/folingo

05-02-2001, 10:06 AM	#5
blueneonman1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 208	Chevyguy, does that mean that I will have to get a new clutch cable with the King Cobra? If so..why? ------------------ Blueneonman - '95 5.0L Mustang GT Convertible \| K&N Drop-in \| FMS 9mm Wires \| Hollow Cats \| Flowmaster 2 Chambers \| Subframes \| 6-pt Rollcage \| 14deg Timing \| Coolest Neon Lighting on a Mustang EVER! Best time: 14.8 @94mph

05-02-2001, 11:25 AM	#6
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	Does the King Cobra require a new quadrant and cable? ------------------ Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph Indiana Stangers Association Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241

05-02-2001, 11:59 AM	#7
Mad Horse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Dayton, OH., United States Posts: 467	The King Cobra doesn't require a new cable or quadrant. I just put the King Cobra in my car a few weeks back and I love the lighter pedal effort. It might be a good idea to replace the cable and pick up a quadrant as the cable can stretch with use and the factory quadrant is junk. Chevyguy, $50-$60 to resurface a flywheel is way to high. My local Napa shop resurfaced mine for $25 and it took them 2 hrs. to do it. ------------------ 88GT 5-speed Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, WMS Xtrac subframes, 16" Ponies. "Nip it in the Bud" My Webpage

05-02-2001, 12:27 PM	#8
blueneonman1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Posts: 208	So am I hearing everyone right? No new clutch cable is needed with the King Cobra? I have heard with some aftermarket clutches that a new adjustable one is required because the clutch pedal moves too far. Oh, and another thing, does the King Cobra help your ET? If so, how many 10th's? ------------------ Blueneonman - '95 5.0L Mustang GT Convertible \| K&N Drop-in \| FMS 9mm Wires \| Hollow Cats \| Flowmaster 2 Chambers \| Subframes \| 6-pt Rollcage \| 14deg Timing \| Coolest Neon Lighting on a Mustang EVER! Best time: 14.8 @94mph

05-02-2001, 12:39 PM	#9
fordgasm Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Clayton, North Carolina, USA Posts: 803	If you are looking for a performance clutch I would recommend the CenterForce dual friction. The pedal pressure is similiar to stock with greater holding pressure. Easy on the street yet tough enough for slicks at the track. It will cost a little more, but worth it in my opinion. With all performance clutches a new cable and quadrant is recommended. The factory quadrant will not hold up with the heavier clutch. ------------------ fordgasm CLICK HERE to see my 87 GT

05-02-2001, 12:40 PM	#10
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	My car came with the king cobra in it when I bought it and I really did not like it the pedal was stiff as hell. There was not even anything wrong with the clutch and I swaped it out with a ford racing clutch. The king cobra sucked for everyday driving the damn thing would were you out but if its quicker ET's that your lookin for the king cobra is bad *** for the strip you can launch hard as hell (In my opinion the best clutch out right now is the centerforce dual friction) You can expect a good clutch to hold 40 to 60% better than stock enabling you to launch real hard and hammer through the gears barking the tires. I have seen a good clutch knock of two to three tenths in the quarter mile. Good Luck ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible BBk equal length headers mac cold air intake cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 180 degree thermostat 16 degrees of timing