Which Subframes to get? Maximum Motorsports? or other?

MTU 50 · 06-02-2002, 01:36 PM

I'm thinking of getting maximum motorsports full length subframe connectors. Anyone have them. I'm pretty sure I want boxed ones and not the tube steel kind.

I'm going to have a shop weld them in. I already know the car has to be supported by the wheels and I need to spraypaint the subs afterward, but any other tips are welcomed.

929PhoenixSquid · 06-02-2002, 08:53 PM

I'm thinking of going with Steeda......not sure if they are the best, just personal preference.

PONYONE · 06-02-2002, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MTU 50
I'm thinking of getting maximum motorsports full length subframe connectors. Anyone have them. I'm pretty sure I want boxed ones and not the tube steel kind.

I'm going to have a shop weld them in. I already know the car has to be supported by the wheels and I need to spraypaint the subs afterward, but any other tips are welcomed.

Whatever type you go with just make sure you have them welded in and not bolt in. There bullshit ..............

cyberstang5.0 · 06-03-2002, 07:09 AM

I have Steeda ones with the seat supports. They are tublar. They can either be bolted up or welded but I went and welded them. Much stonger

I noticed an improvement in my chasis felx. They are pretty good... I'm happy with them

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 06-03-2002, 10:09 AM

I know JBA out here (5 minutes from my house) highly recommends Maximum Motorsports. Eventually I want to buy there package with the Full length subs, strut tower brace, and g-load brace. Steeda is an excellent company too though.

Later,
Nick

jrgoffin · 06-03-2002, 09:56 PM

The Max Motorsports subframes are about the best out there in my opinion. I have had the stndard length version since the car was new and especially like the fact that they are contoured to the floor pan. The full-lengths are even better but much more involved to weld on. Do yourself a favor though and don't just paint them - put a good coating on them like POR-15. The paint will be gone quick and they will rust!

MTU 50, by the way, where are you in SCS? I'm down off Harper S. of 9 mile! Hope I can drive mine through the Shores whenever I'm done rebuilding it!

greydan · 06-03-2002, 10:19 PM

HI,
I'm In Clawson..
Where did you get your sub-frames welded on?
I've talked to a couple of body shops and they don't want to mess with them..

DemonGT · 06-04-2002, 12:03 AM

my kenny brown subs are zinc plated i think...do i still paint them?

fiveohpatrol · 06-04-2002, 05:40 PM

DemonGT, you'll want to just spray some paint on the ends around the welds.

I have the kenny brown subframes as well and they are very nice pieces (its also nice just driving 25minutes to get to his shop to pick them up too

)

Spenc2u · 06-04-2002, 09:50 PM

I put in the MM full lengths... welded the hell out of them.. car's stiffer than shyt now... got the strut tower brace and 4pt roll bar in... car's tight!

would recommend the MM full lengths to anyone.. just paint the welds!

DRASTiK · 06-05-2002, 01:06 AM

I just got back from dropping the car off to have my MM full lengths with seat braces welded on. I'll take it to the track on Sat, and give my opinions when I get back.

929PhoenixSquid · 06-05-2002, 01:12 AM

If you'all don't mind....I have a quick question for you guys.

If you choose to go with Maximum Motorsports for the subframe connectors, is it okay to go with Steeda sway bars and upper/lower control arms or should you match ALL of your suspension modifications to only ONE name brand?

In short, is it okay to mix and match companies for your subframes, sway bars, control arms, braces, and springs?

USMC302 · 06-05-2002, 02:10 PM

iT IS OK, BUT ALL COMPANIES RECOMMEND STAYING CONSISTANT WITH THERE PRODUCT FOR OPTIMUM PERFORMANCE. Some companies purposely build products to only interact with there company. I have mixed for year with no problems. I do however have a full BBK suspension with exeption of SSM lift bars. and Lakewood drag shocks...oh, I have the BBK subframes welded in, I like it alot along with the Strut tower bar.

DemonGT · 06-05-2002, 10:50 PM

when i have the subs installed are they going to know how to do it or what?? i mean all im going to do is give them the subs and be like.."yea..can you weld these on"

fiveohpatrol · 06-05-2002, 11:48 PM

i just took my car up to a muffler shop, and showed them what i had, then said where it needed welding, and they did it in like 5 minutes for $10

drudis · 06-06-2002, 09:49 AM

I personally went with the Kenny Brown (YEARS ago)...

Many photos:
http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/alternativeauto/

DRASTiK · 06-06-2002, 10:26 AM

Well I got my car back last night and I have to say that the difference is amazing. My car drives better with less squeaks and rattles, it corners better. This is definately a MUST modification. I don't see why Ford didn't do this at the factory.

As far as the question that DemonGT asked:
I brought my MM full length subframe connectors with seat braces to Nick at Manning Motorsports and he had never seen this kind before. it's part number MMFL-1 at www.maximummotorsports.com. Just look in the online catalog and you'll see them. Therefore he had to kinda figure it out, and he did a good job.

MTU 50 · 06-07-2002, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jrgoffin

MTU 50, by the way, where are you in SCS? I'm down off Harper S. of 9 mile! Hope I can drive mine through the Shores whenever I'm done rebuilding it!

I'm at 11 and Jefferson. Well, I would be if I was home for the summer.

I decided to stay up at Michigan Tech for the summer, so I am about 550 miles away from good ole' SCS right now.

06-02-2002, 01:36 PM	#1
MTU 50 GOT TORQUE ???? Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: New Hudson, Michigan, USA Posts: 689	Which Subframes to get? Maximum Motorsports? or other? I'm thinking of getting maximum motorsports full length subframe connectors. Anyone have them. I'm pretty sure I want boxed ones and not the tube steel kind. I'm going to have a shop weld them in. I already know the car has to be supported by the wheels and I need to spraypaint the subs afterward, but any other tips are welcomed. __________________ 1991 GT, AOD, Moroso Cold Air, 3.73s, Pulleys, H-pipe, MAC Pro-Dumps, FMS c-springs, and KYBs, A/c delete, 190 LPH fuel pump, 3-row radiator, Maximum Motorsports full length subframes 2002 Oldsmobile Bravada(wife's car) 2005 Ford Taurus SEL (company ride) GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS !!!!

06-02-2002, 08:53 PM	#2
929PhoenixSquid Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Joosey Shore Posts: 358	I'm thinking of going with Steeda......not sure if they are the best, just personal preference. __________________ 1988 5.0 notch: Previously never modified!! SN95 block front and rear seats, Mac catback, BBK off-road H-pipe, Steeda castor camber plates, Steeda lowering springs, Tokico shocks/struts, Alpine/MBQuart/PPI audio mods...

06-03-2002, 10:09 AM	#5
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	I know JBA out here (5 minutes from my house) highly recommends Maximum Motorsports. Eventually I want to buy there package with the Full length subs, strut tower brace, and g-load brace. Steeda is an excellent company too though. Later, Nick __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

06-03-2002, 09:56 PM	#6
jrgoffin Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 79	The Max Motorsports subframes are about the best out there in my opinion. I have had the stndard length version since the car was new and especially like the fact that they are contoured to the floor pan. The full-lengths are even better but much more involved to weld on. Do yourself a favor though and don't just paint them - put a good coating on them like POR-15. The paint will be gone quick and they will rust! MTU 50, by the way, where are you in SCS? I'm down off Harper S. of 9 mile! Hope I can drive mine through the Shores whenever I'm done rebuilding it! __________________ '90 LX Too many mods... Rear-Disc tech

06-03-2002, 10:19 PM	#7
greydan Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: clawson, mi. Posts: 32	sub-frames HI, I'm In Clawson.. Where did you get your sub-frames welded on? I've talked to a couple of body shops and they don't want to mess with them..

06-03-2002, 07:09 AM	#4
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	I have Steeda ones with the seat supports. They are tublar. They can either be bolted up or welded but I went and welded them. Much stonger I noticed an improvement in my chasis felx. They are pretty good... I'm happy with them

06-04-2002, 12:03 AM	#8
DemonGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 879	my kenny brown subs are zinc plated i think...do i still paint them? __________________ '91 GT,410W,10.5 to 1 comp,Victor Jr. heads,Victor 5.8 intake,FTI cam,Crane retro fit lifters,Scorpian 1.6 RR's,Melling HV oil pump,MSD distro.,Canton oil pan,FMS flywheel,Romac balancer,FMS timing chain,Accufab 90mm TB,C&L 76mm maf, 42lbers,HD clutch,K&N air filter,Mac long tubes,Pro dumps,powerchamber,FMS 9mm wires,180 thermostat,Ford Racing gauges,5inch Tach,centerline convo pro's,nitto DR's,Pro3i lower control arms,50/50 shocks,3.55 gears,TFS HD diff. cover Next year: Tremec TKO,Spec stage 3 clutch,alum driveshaft,complete fuel system www.angelfire.com/linux/demondan

06-04-2002, 05:40 PM	#9
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	DemonGT, you'll want to just spray some paint on the ends around the welds. I have the kenny brown subframes as well and they are very nice pieces (its also nice just driving 25minutes to get to his shop to pick them up too ) __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

06-04-2002, 09:50 PM	#10
Spenc2u Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Posts: 24	I put in the MM full lengths... welded the hell out of them.. car's stiffer than shyt now... got the strut tower brace and 4pt roll bar in... car's tight! would recommend the MM full lengths to anyone.. just paint the welds! __________________ http://www.netsnapshot.com/pickalbum?Spenc2u

06-05-2002, 01:06 AM	#11
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	I just got back from dropping the car off to have my MM full lengths with seat braces welded on. I'll take it to the track on Sat, and give my opinions when I get back. __________________ Dave 88 GT - 13.4@106 on street tires (2.2 60ft) My Stang RHC member #75 My stang is FOR SALE!!

06-05-2002, 01:12 AM	#12
929PhoenixSquid Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Joosey Shore Posts: 358	Kwik question: If you'all don't mind....I have a quick question for you guys. If you choose to go with Maximum Motorsports for the subframe connectors, is it okay to go with Steeda sway bars and upper/lower control arms or should you match ALL of your suspension modifications to only ONE name brand? In short, is it okay to mix and match companies for your subframes, sway bars, control arms, braces, and springs? __________________ 1988 5.0 notch: Previously never modified!! SN95 block front and rear seats, Mac catback, BBK off-road H-pipe, Steeda castor camber plates, Steeda lowering springs, Tokico shocks/struts, Alpine/MBQuart/PPI audio mods...

06-05-2002, 02:10 PM	#13
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	iT IS OK, BUT ALL COMPANIES RECOMMEND STAYING CONSISTANT WITH THERE PRODUCT FOR OPTIMUM PERFORMANCE. Some companies purposely build products to only interact with there company. I have mixed for year with no problems. I do however have a full BBK suspension with exeption of SSM lift bars. and Lakewood drag shocks...oh, I have the BBK subframes welded in, I like it alot along with the Strut tower bar. __________________

06-05-2002, 10:50 PM	#14
DemonGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 879	when i have the subs installed are they going to know how to do it or what?? i mean all im going to do is give them the subs and be like.."yea..can you weld these on" __________________ '91 GT,410W,10.5 to 1 comp,Victor Jr. heads,Victor 5.8 intake,FTI cam,Crane retro fit lifters,Scorpian 1.6 RR's,Melling HV oil pump,MSD distro.,Canton oil pan,FMS flywheel,Romac balancer,FMS timing chain,Accufab 90mm TB,C&L 76mm maf, 42lbers,HD clutch,K&N air filter,Mac long tubes,Pro dumps,powerchamber,FMS 9mm wires,180 thermostat,Ford Racing gauges,5inch Tach,centerline convo pro's,nitto DR's,Pro3i lower control arms,50/50 shocks,3.55 gears,TFS HD diff. cover Next year: Tremec TKO,Spec stage 3 clutch,alum driveshaft,complete fuel system www.angelfire.com/linux/demondan

06-05-2002, 11:48 PM	#15
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	i just took my car up to a muffler shop, and showed them what i had, then said where it needed welding, and they did it in like 5 minutes for $10 __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

06-06-2002, 09:49 AM	#16
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	I personally went with the Kenny Brown (YEARS ago)... Many photos: http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/alternativeauto/ __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

06-06-2002, 10:26 AM	#17
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	Well I got my car back last night and I have to say that the difference is amazing. My car drives better with less squeaks and rattles, it corners better. This is definately a MUST modification. I don't see why Ford didn't do this at the factory. As far as the question that DemonGT asked: I brought my MM full length subframe connectors with seat braces to Nick at Manning Motorsports and he had never seen this kind before. it's part number MMFL-1 at www.maximummotorsports.com. Just look in the online catalog and you'll see them. Therefore he had to kinda figure it out, and he did a good job.

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