Timing troubles

SmokinStangGT · 06-20-2003, 02:25 AM

about a week ago i broke a oil pump shaft that goes into the distributer and had to buy a whole new distributer, cap and rotor. I installed it a started to get it running but then the timing was set but the car had a little slow reponse to the throttle, so i shut it down and started it back up again after about ten minutes to eat and then it wouldnt restart. i didnt touch anything, but the little modual that goes on the side of the distributer was not tighted down all the way so it wasent getting a good connection to the distributer and so i held it while a friend started it and it worked for a second and then stopped. Now it wont fire anymore and i know the timing is right and everything, but there are two things i think that could be wrong, which are the spark plugs got fouled from trying to start it or the module is screwed up. I need some opionions on what could be wrong or what to check for. I have new ford racing wires and the plugs were new, the only thing stock is the coil on the ignition. Please help!! Thanks!

Bad89stang · 06-20-2003, 04:26 AM

Hmmmm...
Your post is a little confusing, but let's make it simple.
1. Get the motor to TDC going off of the balancer.
2. Loosen and remove the distributor hold down bolt.
3. Remove the distributor.
4. Inspect the dist. just for giggles.
5. Re-stab the dist. and make sure that the rotor is pointing to the #1 postition. Keep trying until you get it there.
6. Tighten the hold down bolt.
7. Re-connect any loose wires.
8. Start the car and shoot it with a timing light.
9. If it is not timed where you want it then turn off the car and remove the Spout connector. Time the car. Turn off the car and replace the spout connector.
10. If all of this does not work then post back up and we will determine if you are getting spark or not.

SmokinStangGT · 06-20-2003, 02:37 PM

i did all of those things and still no luck.. any other ideas?

SmokinStangGT · 06-21-2003, 11:59 AM

Please can anyone else help? The two things i think it may be is the coil(stock) or the modual on the distibutor(stock)... can anyone else tell me how to check these or what it sounds like the problem could be? any past experiances?

WADS56 · 06-21-2003, 02:27 PM

Are you talking about the TFI modual? If so I would replace it because they are known to go bad. They had a recall on that part so i would put my bet on the TFI.

USMC302 · 06-21-2003, 07:00 PM

Quote:

but the little modual that goes on the side of the distributer was not tighted down all the way so it wasent getting a good connection to the distributer and so i held it while a friend started it and it worked for a second and then stopped.

The lack of connection in the beginning could have and most likely shorted out the modual. If you just purchased the modual with the dist, maybe they will swap it out, if not, I believe they run around $60. Be sure to use the supplied electronic grease and secure the new one snug. Let us know.

06-20-2003, 04:26 AM	#2
Bad89stang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 456	Hmmmm... Your post is a little confusing, but let's make it simple. 1. Get the motor to TDC going off of the balancer. 2. Loosen and remove the distributor hold down bolt. 3. Remove the distributor. 4. Inspect the dist. just for giggles. 5. Re-stab the dist. and make sure that the rotor is pointing to the #1 postition. Keep trying until you get it there. 6. Tighten the hold down bolt. 7. Re-connect any loose wires. 8. Start the car and shoot it with a timing light. 9. If it is not timed where you want it then turn off the car and remove the Spout connector. Time the car. Turn off the car and replace the spout connector. 10. If all of this does not work then post back up and we will determine if you are getting spark or not. __________________ You're gonna need your seatbelt

06-20-2003, 02:37 PM	#3
SmokinStangGT Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: IL Posts: 105	did it i did all of those things and still no luck.. any other ideas? __________________ 89' GT with 5spd Hurst short throw, Keith Black 12:1 comp. pistons, Sealed Power drag racing rings, Fms F303 Cam, Ported and polished upper and lower intake with Ported E7TE heads that contain comp. cam double coiled springs with titainum locks and steel retainers, Fel-Pro Head Gaskets, 9mm ford racing wires, BBK chrome unequal shortys, Power Throttle bodies 70mm, Edlebrock 70mm EGR plate, 15inch K&N, Bassani X-pipe, Flowmaster 40 series, Eibach 1 1/2 lowering springs, Cobra R rims 17X9 with p235 on front and p275 on rear with Falken Zeix tires-RUNNING!

06-21-2003, 11:59 AM	#4
SmokinStangGT Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: IL Posts: 105	Please can anyone else help? The two things i think it may be is the coil(stock) or the modual on the distibutor(stock)... can anyone else tell me how to check these or what it sounds like the problem could be? any past experiances? __________________ 89' GT with 5spd Hurst short throw, Keith Black 12:1 comp. pistons, Sealed Power drag racing rings, Fms F303 Cam, Ported and polished upper and lower intake with Ported E7TE heads that contain comp. cam double coiled springs with titainum locks and steel retainers, Fel-Pro Head Gaskets, 9mm ford racing wires, BBK chrome unequal shortys, Power Throttle bodies 70mm, Edlebrock 70mm EGR plate, 15inch K&N, Bassani X-pipe, Flowmaster 40 series, Eibach 1 1/2 lowering springs, Cobra R rims 17X9 with p235 on front and p275 on rear with Falken Zeix tires-RUNNING!

06-21-2003, 02:27 PM	#5
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	Are you talking about the TFI modual? If so I would replace it because they are known to go bad. They had a recall on that part so i would put my bet on the TFI. __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

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06-20-2003, 02:25 AM	#1
SmokinStangGT Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: IL Posts: 105	Timing troubles about a week ago i broke a oil pump shaft that goes into the distributer and had to buy a whole new distributer, cap and rotor. I installed it a started to get it running but then the timing was set but the car had a little slow reponse to the throttle, so i shut it down and started it back up again after about ten minutes to eat and then it wouldnt restart. i didnt touch anything, but the little modual that goes on the side of the distributer was not tighted down all the way so it wasent getting a good connection to the distributer and so i held it while a friend started it and it worked for a second and then stopped. Now it wont fire anymore and i know the timing is right and everything, but there are two things i think that could be wrong, which are the spark plugs got fouled from trying to start it or the module is screwed up. I need some opionions on what could be wrong or what to check for. I have new ford racing wires and the plugs were new, the only thing stock is the coil on the ignition. Please help!! Thanks! __________________ 89' GT with 5spd Hurst short throw, Keith Black 12:1 comp. pistons, Sealed Power drag racing rings, Fms F303 Cam, Ported and polished upper and lower intake with Ported E7TE heads that contain comp. cam double coiled springs with titainum locks and steel retainers, Fel-Pro Head Gaskets, 9mm ford racing wires, BBK chrome unequal shortys, Power Throttle bodies 70mm, Edlebrock 70mm EGR plate, 15inch K&N, Bassani X-pipe, Flowmaster 40 series, Eibach 1 1/2 lowering springs, Cobra R rims 17X9 with p235 on front and p275 on rear with Falken Zeix tires-RUNNING!