Once again.......what about this setup

dinomite · 03-31-2001, 12:44 PM

Ok, here is the setup that I've been thinking about (I am completely open to any suggestions). This is going to be a street driven daily driver, but I (like everyone) want power and I'm willing to make some sacrifices:
AFR 165
F303 cam (or E303, its a street car, what'd you think?)
24lb injectors (that ok, or should it be 30?)
190liter/hr fuel pump (or 155?)
fuel rails (are the stockers ok?)
1.6 roller rockers (1.7? I don't know)
pushrods and lifters (suggestions?)
fuel pressure regulator
MAC shorties 1 5/8
MAC High flow cat h-pipe (keep in mind I have emmisions testing)
MAC cat back
Trick Flow Track Heat intake (either that or cobra or edelbrock)
appropriate EGR spacer for above
65mm throttle body (or should it be 70?)
vortech 73mm MAF sensor

Did I forget anything? And I'm always open to suggestions!

dinomite · 04-01-2001, 03:02 PM

anyone?

xspeed02 · 04-01-2001, 03:20 PM

Man, I really wish I could offer you advice based on experience... I just didn't want you to think people were ignoring you. I wish you luck on your combo. From what I can see it looks like a good streetable one. I think the 190lph fuel pump would be a bit much unless you're going to add a Blower down the line. 155lph would probably be enough. Don't take my word for this man, get a second and third opinion. Stock fuel rails are probably ok. A friend of mine said 1.6 rockers are better in the longrun, again, I can't speak from experience. Yet anyways. 24lb injectors should be good in my opinion also. E303 cam should be a good streetable cam since your combo doesn't look very radical. This is just based on hearsay bro. Please make sure to get a couple of other opinions. If noone else here responds, perhaps you can consult a reputable engine builder in your town. Goodluck.

86GT · 04-01-2001, 08:49 PM

Well the F cam is good on the street, but it won't pass emissions easily. The E cam is a nice choice and makes good power, but in all honesty, you should consider a custom ground cam, unless you want an off-the-shelf grind. Run 24lb injectors as a minimum, and make sure you have the 190lph pump. Why skimp now?

I wouldn't run the TFS intake with AFR heads, I heard they don't line up well (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Go with an Edelbrock Performer and you'd be fine. The rest of your combo looks good.

93CobraR · 04-01-2001, 09:04 PM

Everything looks good except for the cam. I would go with something different. I just got the Crane Compucam 2031 and hear it's suppose to be a great street cam with the split duration. You should check around and see what people are running with those heads and check into that cam. Just my $.02

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Best time 12.96
Best MPH 103.42
Best 60' 1.695

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dinomite · 04-01-2001, 09:30 PM

Well, given what you two said, I need to find a different cam, custom ground sounds fun! How much is a custom cam? Where can I get one? Do I just give them all this info?

TEXSN95 · 04-02-2001, 01:38 AM

I have the 2031 and I love it. It sounds great at idle, but not too rough. It's a b1tch to tune with the 95 eec, but it's a good cam. I've heard many more compliments about that cam compared with the E cam, especially about the driveability/idle characteristics.

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Clint L.
White 95 Cobra #3637
R lookalike with lots of goodies

Rick 91GT · 04-02-2001, 09:54 AM

I would go with a 76mm C&L rather then the 73mm Vortech which is a C&L. Check out the Comp Cams XE grinds, they have awesome ramprates and will make great power. Call their tech service and give them your combo they are very good or call Rick Anderson and ask about one of his cams, thats were I went for my custom cam, I have a modified grind of the N-61.

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dinomite · 04-02-2001, 03:21 PM

Thanks a lot! I'll go with the above setup, but 76mm C&L mass air, edelbrock performer, and a comp cam.

86GT · 04-02-2001, 05:50 PM

Comp has some good grinds to choose from, also check out Crane and Lunati. There are some other manufacturers too, but those are some of the bigger names. I'm running an F cam in my car, its a great cam and loves to be revved up, its make good down low, but to each his own. Once you get it let us know how it all feels..

04-02-2001, 06:21 PM

Looks like a pretty good setup from what I've read, and I agree that you should go for 1.6 rockers,'cause they'll let you run more cam and put less strees on the rest of the valvetrain. Wish I could be of more help too, but Im not really diving into my own project till this summer when I get some $$$ again

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dinomite · 04-02-2001, 07:40 PM

I'll definently tell you guys about it, I as well won't be doing it till this summer, gotta do an AOD to T5 (tremmec 3550) swap first.

03-31-2001, 12:44 PM	#1
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	Once again.......what about this setup Ok, here is the setup that I've been thinking about (I am completely open to any suggestions). This is going to be a street driven daily driver, but I (like everyone) want power and I'm willing to make some sacrifices: AFR 165 F303 cam (or E303, its a street car, what'd you think?) 24lb injectors (that ok, or should it be 30?) 190liter/hr fuel pump (or 155?) fuel rails (are the stockers ok?) 1.6 roller rockers (1.7? I don't know) pushrods and lifters (suggestions?) fuel pressure regulator MAC shorties 1 5/8 MAC High flow cat h-pipe (keep in mind I have emmisions testing) MAC cat back Trick Flow Track Heat intake (either that or cobra or edelbrock) appropriate EGR spacer for above 65mm throttle body (or should it be 70?) vortech 73mm MAF sensor Did I forget anything? And I'm always open to suggestions!

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04-01-2001, 03:02 PM	#2
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	anyone?

04-01-2001, 03:20 PM	#3
xspeed02 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 119	Man, I really wish I could offer you advice based on experience... I just didn't want you to think people were ignoring you. I wish you luck on your combo. From what I can see it looks like a good streetable one. I think the 190lph fuel pump would be a bit much unless you're going to add a Blower down the line. 155lph would probably be enough. Don't take my word for this man, get a second and third opinion. Stock fuel rails are probably ok. A friend of mine said 1.6 rockers are better in the longrun, again, I can't speak from experience. Yet anyways. 24lb injectors should be good in my opinion also. E303 cam should be a good streetable cam since your combo doesn't look very radical. This is just based on hearsay bro. Please make sure to get a couple of other opinions. If noone else here responds, perhaps you can consult a reputable engine builder in your town. Goodluck.

04-01-2001, 08:49 PM	#4
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	Well the F cam is good on the street, but it won't pass emissions easily. The E cam is a nice choice and makes good power, but in all honesty, you should consider a custom ground cam, unless you want an off-the-shelf grind. Run 24lb injectors as a minimum, and make sure you have the 190lph pump. Why skimp now? I wouldn't run the TFS intake with AFR heads, I heard they don't line up well (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Go with an Edelbrock Performer and you'd be fine. The rest of your combo looks good.

04-01-2001, 09:04 PM	#5
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	Everything looks good except for the cam. I would go with something different. I just got the Crane Compucam 2031 and hear it's suppose to be a great street cam with the split duration. You should check around and see what people are running with those heads and check into that cam. Just my $.02 ------------------ 87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 12.96 Best MPH 103.42 Best 60' 1.695 Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

04-01-2001, 09:30 PM	#6
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	Well, given what you two said, I need to find a different cam, custom ground sounds fun! How much is a custom cam? Where can I get one? Do I just give them all this info?

04-02-2001, 01:38 AM	#7
TEXSN95 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: college station, tx Posts: 143	I have the 2031 and I love it. It sounds great at idle, but not too rough. It's a b1tch to tune with the 95 eec, but it's a good cam. I've heard many more compliments about that cam compared with the E cam, especially about the driveability/idle characteristics. ------------------ Clint L. White 95 Cobra #3637 R lookalike with lots of goodies

04-02-2001, 09:54 AM	#8
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	I would go with a 76mm C&L rather then the 73mm Vortech which is a C&L. Check out the Comp Cams XE grinds, they have awesome ramprates and will make great power. Call their tech service and give them your combo they are very good or call Rick Anderson and ask about one of his cams, thats were I went for my custom cam, I have a modified grind of the N-61. ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon!

04-02-2001, 03:21 PM	#9
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	Thanks a lot! I'll go with the above setup, but 76mm C&L mass air, edelbrock performer, and a comp cam.

04-02-2001, 05:50 PM	#10
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	Comp has some good grinds to choose from, also check out Crane and Lunati. There are some other manufacturers too, but those are some of the bigger names. I'm running an F cam in my car, its a great cam and loves to be revved up, its make good down low, but to each his own. Once you get it let us know how it all feels..

04-02-2001, 06:21 PM	#11
Big&bad89rag Guest Posts: n/a	Looks like a pretty good setup from what I've read, and I agree that you should go for 1.6 rockers,'cause they'll let you run more cam and put less strees on the rest of the valvetrain. Wish I could be of more help too, but Im not really diving into my own project till this summer when I get some $$$ again .

04-02-2001, 07:40 PM	#12
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	I'll definently tell you guys about it, I as well won't be doing it till this summer, gotta do an AOD to T5 (tremmec 3550) swap first.