Pilot Bearing

Falcons Talon · 10-10-2002, 09:47 AM

Any ideas on how to remove the pilot bearing without a pilot bearing remover?

302 LX Eric · 10-10-2002, 09:58 AM

You may find much more detailed information on a search as I know this has been covered before. But, I remember something about loading up a bunch of grease into the center of the bearing, inserting a dowel and then hitting the dowel with a hammer. The grease is supposed to push out the bearing. Not sure if it works (and kind of sounds messy to me

) but I've heard it here before.

Or, just find a local shop that will let you borrow the tool or check with Autozone, Advance Auto Parts, etc, as they have tool lending services for free I think. This will probably be your best bet and will save you headaches.

Hope this helps,
E

richd · 10-10-2002, 10:21 AM

I did mine after a trans rebuild last month. Don't use grease, use soap. Just stuff soap chips into the hole until you can't push any more in.

You'll need an appropriately sized shaft (I used the old input shaft from my transmission) or a socket with extension. If you have to use a socket, I recommend inverting the socket on the extension so there is a flat surface hitting the soap.

Take an 11 ounce sledge (or maybe an impact chisel with a blunt tip will work if you're careful) and beat the shaft or socket into the hole. When I say beat, I mean beat. The harder you hit the less chance the soap has to sneak out.

You may have to repeat the packing once or twice but the bearing will come out.

Also make sure you clean out the soap once the bearing is out. When I finished I started laughing, the packed soap had the exact shape of the pilot bearing, almost like a mold of it.

Feel free to contact me if you need any clarification,

Rich D.

Kamaro Killer · 10-10-2002, 01:47 PM

Go to your local part store and rent a puller. I went to autozone, put a $20 deposit on it and pulled my bearing. I tried a few times to get it out without the puller and it was a pain in the *** The rental should be free, so I'd suggest doing it that way. Good luck, Keith

fiveohpatrol · 10-10-2002, 02:00 PM

I've tried the grease method, and it didnt work for me.

that soap idea sounds like a lot CLEANER method than the grease..

hahahhahahhaha, i crack myself up

'89GTStang · 10-10-2002, 03:26 PM

I have used the greese before. It's a lil messy but it does work. I think I used a large bolt and a lil tape to get the exact size right. came out fairly easy. I had a tool but it didn't work very well because it was just the outter race of the bearing left in there. the rollers and the center completely failed and were in peices. I think the previous owner tightened the bolts on the trans. down and made it fit instead of lining it up correctly. I could also see the soap working and not be quite as messy. Either way Good Luck!!

LX XLR8R · 10-10-2002, 03:28 PM

i use grease..he uses soap..my buddy used to use grape jelly..it all works unless she is really in there..then you need to do the AZ route and rent a puller..

Falcons Talon · 10-10-2002, 08:29 PM

Thanks doe all the suggestions guys. I had to make a run to the parts shop anyways because I need some mercon and a tap due to a frozen starter bolt that broke off in the bellhousing. I got the pull hammer/pilot bearing tool and it came out with about five hits. I swear, I just got my car going and I drove her for 1/2 a day and the throwout went out...and I mean went out. When I got the bellhousing off, it was in three shredded pieces. Let's see...now I've got new head gaskets, planed headed, new lifters, new pushrods, new oil pump, new water pump, new hoses, cleaned out radiator, new fan clutch, new clutch setup, new oil in tranny/motor, and and an upgraded alternator. Anyone want to make any bets on what's going to go out next?

fiveohpatrol · 10-10-2002, 08:49 PM

heater core or fuel pump

Falcons Talon · 10-11-2002, 08:21 PM

Now that's just plain mean

dlb1982 · 10-11-2002, 10:11 PM

This may sound bad but if it worked for me... just take a drill and drill lots of holes in it... after awhile it will pretty much just fall right out. I had gotten this advise from other people so im not the only one. And i didn't even make a scratch on the block.

MEDIK418 · 10-11-2002, 10:59 PM

I just did this not too long ago. Go to someplace like Harbor Freight and look into a slide hammer kit. It has these neat little expander plugs that will fit into the hole very nicely. They expand outward enough to slam the thing out. It's in there real good but with a minimum of patience it should pop right out.
And yes, I'm still alive. . . a lot older now but still alive.

fiveohpatrol · 10-12-2002, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Now that's just plain mean

yah it is, but those are common problems with the fox stangs for some reason

Falcons Talon · 10-16-2002, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by fiveohpatrol
heater core or fuel pump

Starter!

10-10-2002, 09:47 AM	#1
Falcons Talon T.P.M. President Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brownsville Posts: 265	Pilot Bearing Any ideas on how to remove the pilot bearing without a pilot bearing remover?

10-10-2002, 09:58 AM	#2
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	You may find much more detailed information on a search as I know this has been covered before. But, I remember something about loading up a bunch of grease into the center of the bearing, inserting a dowel and then hitting the dowel with a hammer. The grease is supposed to push out the bearing. Not sure if it works (and kind of sounds messy to me ) but I've heard it here before. Or, just find a local shop that will let you borrow the tool or check with Autozone, Advance Auto Parts, etc, as they have tool lending services for free I think. This will probably be your best bet and will save you headaches. Hope this helps, E __________________ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 40,750 miles 331 cu. in. / Tremec 3550 / BFG Drag Radials 12.22 @ 114.31 mph - w/1.89 60'

10-10-2002, 01:47 PM	#4
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	Do yourself a favor Go to your local part store and rent a puller. I went to autozone, put a $20 deposit on it and pulled my bearing. I tried a few times to get it out without the puller and it was a pain in the *** The rental should be free, so I'd suggest doing it that way. Good luck, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

10-10-2002, 02:00 PM	#5
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	I've tried the grease method, and it didnt work for me. that soap idea sounds like a lot CLEANER method than the grease.. hahahhahahhaha, i crack myself up __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

10-10-2002, 03:26 PM	#6
'89GTStang Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: greenwood, ar Posts: 118	I have used the greese before. It's a lil messy but it does work. I think I used a large bolt and a lil tape to get the exact size right. came out fairly easy. I had a tool but it didn't work very well because it was just the outter race of the bearing left in there. the rollers and the center completely failed and were in peices. I think the previous owner tightened the bolts on the trans. down and made it fit instead of lining it up correctly. I could also see the soap working and not be quite as messy. Either way Good Luck!! __________________ '89 GT K&N, Twisted Wedge heads, TFS intake,FMS 1.7 rockers, Trick Flow stage 1 cam(221/225 .530in\.542in) , 3.73's, headers, off road H-pipe, Flowmasters, FMS Clutch, Tremec, PRO-5.0, FMS driveshaft, fluidyne alum. radiator, and more to come.

10-10-2002, 10:21 AM	#3
richd Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Edison, NJ, USA Posts: 125	I did mine after a trans rebuild last month. Don't use grease, use soap. Just stuff soap chips into the hole until you can't push any more in. You'll need an appropriately sized shaft (I used the old input shaft from my transmission) or a socket with extension. If you have to use a socket, I recommend inverting the socket on the extension so there is a flat surface hitting the soap. Take an 11 ounce sledge (or maybe an impact chisel with a blunt tip will work if you're careful) and beat the shaft or socket into the hole. When I say beat, I mean beat. The harder you hit the less chance the soap has to sneak out. You may have to repeat the packing once or twice but the bearing will come out. Also make sure you clean out the soap once the bearing is out. When I finished I started laughing, the packed soap had the exact shape of the pilot bearing, almost like a mold of it. Feel free to contact me if you need any clarification, Rich D.

10-10-2002, 03:28 PM	#7
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	i use grease..he uses soap..my buddy used to use grape jelly..it all works unless she is really in there..then you need to do the AZ route and rent a puller.. __________________ 95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once

10-10-2002, 08:29 PM	#8
Falcons Talon T.P.M. President Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brownsville Posts: 265	Thanks doe all the suggestions guys. I had to make a run to the parts shop anyways because I need some mercon and a tap due to a frozen starter bolt that broke off in the bellhousing. I got the pull hammer/pilot bearing tool and it came out with about five hits. I swear, I just got my car going and I drove her for 1/2 a day and the throwout went out...and I mean went out. When I got the bellhousing off, it was in three shredded pieces. Let's see...now I've got new head gaskets, planed headed, new lifters, new pushrods, new oil pump, new water pump, new hoses, cleaned out radiator, new fan clutch, new clutch setup, new oil in tranny/motor, and and an upgraded alternator. Anyone want to make any bets on what's going to go out next?

10-10-2002, 08:49 PM	#9
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	heater core or fuel pump __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

10-11-2002, 08:21 PM	#10
Falcons Talon T.P.M. President Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brownsville Posts: 265	Now that's just plain mean

10-11-2002, 10:11 PM	#11
dlb1982 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Macomb IL Posts: 42	This may sound bad but if it worked for me... just take a drill and drill lots of holes in it... after awhile it will pretty much just fall right out. I had gotten this advise from other people so im not the only one. And i didn't even make a scratch on the block. __________________ 94 GT (Full length headers, Off Road H Pipe and Flowmasters) MSD Ignition, 75 shot nitrous, cold air induction. 65mm t.b. pulleys and 3:73 gears. everything else STOCK!! 60' = 2.04; 1/4 = 13.9 on street tires dynoed with 87 octane at 240hp 310 lb torch w/out nitrous. Its a pooch but im working on it.

10-11-2002, 10:59 PM	#12
MEDIK418 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Amarillo, Texas, USA Posts: 780	I just did this not too long ago. Go to someplace like Harbor Freight and look into a slide hammer kit. It has these neat little expander plugs that will fit into the hole very nicely. They expand outward enough to slam the thing out. It's in there real good but with a minimum of patience it should pop right out. And yes, I'm still alive. . . a lot older now but still alive. __________________ 1986 four-eyed LX coupe, 358 Cleveland, Tremec TKO600/centerforce clutch, dish cut Probe forged pistons, comp cams hyd.roller cam, .579/.588@224/230, Edel.performer, 670 holley street avenger, CPR custom built long tubes, ported and polished 4bbl heads, manley valves, beehive springs, MSD peo-billet dist/MSD6AL, fluidamper, 5 lug conv. with 17x8 bullits there's more but it's still not finished yet. Oh, and the oldest boy is turning his 89 GT into a FFR cobra this next summer.

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