Poppin out of first

REDBARON · 01-12-2001, 01:46 PM

I recently noticed while startingout in first the car will pop out of first. Is this a sign of soon to be tranny failure? Or the clutch needing adjustment?

LX XLR8R · 01-12-2001, 01:48 PM

its either your shifter screw 2 far in not allowing you to put the cr all the way in first or its time to look for another tranny

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exgmguy · 01-12-2001, 04:08 PM

Usually if it pops out while already in first it is not the clutch, but worn gears in the trans.

roadrunner93 · 01-12-2001, 04:08 PM

I'd say tranny

Jeff Chambers · 01-12-2001, 05:54 PM

I've seen this happen most times because of bent shift fork(s). If you have the tranny rebuilt, be sure to replace the shift forks or you may find it happening again right after the rebuild.

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RAINSTANG · 01-12-2001, 07:54 PM

What brand shifter do you have? When I first installed my Hurst it popped out of first one time and I just about went through the roof. BAM! that sound makes me very nervous. Maybe the stop needs to be backed off a 1/16 or so and tighten up the lever. I did those two things and it has never popped out again.

90dpscoupe · 01-13-2001, 02:34 AM

mine has done this, but only a couple times the whole year i been driving it, make sure you are putting it in gear all the way.

Jerm95gt · 05-17-2001, 03:54 PM

I've had it happen it my gt about twice...i've owned the car for around 4-5 months and it now has about 54k on it...i think sometimes you just don't get it in all the way........

Five0 · 05-17-2001, 07:19 PM

Hey redbaron: I had that happen to me and it turned out to be the shifter boot had torn and was getting in the way of the shifter and causing it not to go all the way into gear. You might want to check that.

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egiap's 5.0 · 05-19-2001, 06:13 AM

I would have to go with bent sift fork. If you get trany rebuilt make sure to buy new sifter. One that has possitive stop bolts on it. This will stop over travel of sift fork. I use the Pro 5.0. Not only will it help sift fork last longer 2nd to 3rd is a piece of cake. When the trany is put some Amsoil synthetic trans fuild in. Hope I could help.

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BlackFly · 05-20-2001, 12:26 AM

i would say shift fork, because i've been there, and i've been in there, and rebuilt several of these, the small slipper on the end of the fork is all it takes fork this to happen. it gets crushed from those rough shifts and falls off, or the fork gets bent, either way get a new fork.

2FastLX · 05-20-2001, 02:21 AM

My rebuilt tranny was doing this as soon as I got it back from the rebuilder so I took it back and he said there was nothing wrong with it after examining the gears. I watched him take it apart when I took it back and he never even examined the shift forks. After putting it back in it still jumped out of gear. I'm going to take it to another shop and see if it is the shift forks because we think that is the problem.

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5ive.oh · 05-21-2001, 12:18 AM

I'll bet it's the synchros. Find a used tranny at a junkyard, 83-93 T-5 will work. It'll cost less than a complete teardown and rebuild.

LX5liter · 05-21-2001, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by REDBARON:
I recently noticed while startingout in first the car will pop out of first. Is this a sign of soon to be tranny failure? Or the clutch needing adjustment?

It could also be your detent ball on your shift rail.( internal ) The main reason for these detents is to stop the rtans from popping out of gear.

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01-12-2001, 01:46 PM	#1
REDBARON Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1998 Location: CARSON CALIFORNIA Posts: 126	Poppin out of first I recently noticed while startingout in first the car will pop out of first. Is this a sign of soon to be tranny failure? Or the clutch needing adjustment?

01-12-2001, 01:48 PM	#2
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	its either your shifter screw 2 far in not allowing you to put the cr all the way in first or its time to look for another tranny ------------------ 1987 black notch(ex 4 banger) DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..

01-12-2001, 04:08 PM	#3
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Usually if it pops out while already in first it is not the clutch, but worn gears in the trans.

01-12-2001, 04:08 PM	#4
roadrunner93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 65	I'd say tranny

01-12-2001, 05:54 PM	#5
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	I've seen this happen most times because of bent shift fork(s). If you have the tranny rebuilt, be sure to replace the shift forks or you may find it happening again right after the rebuild. ------------------ Jeff Chambers Trophy Stock #3 11.97 Seconds / 114.5 MPH Chambers Racing Team

01-12-2001, 07:54 PM	#6
RAINSTANG Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 98	What brand shifter do you have? When I first installed my Hurst it popped out of first one time and I just about went through the roof. BAM! that sound makes me very nervous. Maybe the stop needs to be backed off a 1/16 or so and tighten up the lever. I did those two things and it has never popped out again.

01-13-2001, 02:34 AM	#7
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	mine has done this, but only a couple times the whole year i been driving it, make sure you are putting it in gear all the way.

05-17-2001, 03:54 PM	#8
Jerm95gt Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: martinez,california,USA Posts: 12	I've had it happen it my gt about twice...i've owned the car for around 4-5 months and it now has about 54k on it...i think sometimes you just don't get it in all the way........

05-17-2001, 07:19 PM	#9
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	Hey redbaron: I had that happen to me and it turned out to be the shifter boot had torn and was getting in the way of the shifter and causing it not to go all the way into gear. You might want to check that. ------------------ James Cox nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX 12.565 @109.38mph 1.764 60ft

05-19-2001, 06:13 AM	#10
egiap's 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Mansfield, OH. Posts: 113	I would have to go with bent sift fork. If you get trany rebuilt make sure to buy new sifter. One that has possitive stop bolts on it. This will stop over travel of sift fork. I use the Pro 5.0. Not only will it help sift fork last longer 2nd to 3rd is a piece of cake. When the trany is put some Amsoil synthetic trans fuild in. Hope I could help. ------------------ Independent Amsoil dealer. Need information about amsoil synthetic products leave me a message.

05-20-2001, 12:26 AM	#11
BlackFly Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: winnipeg , manitoba , canada Posts: 83	i would say shift fork, because i've been there, and i've been in there, and rebuilt several of these, the small slipper on the end of the fork is all it takes fork this to happen. it gets crushed from those rough shifts and falls off, or the fork gets bent, either way get a new fork.

05-20-2001, 02:21 AM	#12
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	My rebuilt tranny was doing this as soon as I got it back from the rebuilder so I took it back and he said there was nothing wrong with it after examining the gears. I watched him take it apart when I took it back and he never even examined the shift forks. After putting it back in it still jumped out of gear. I'm going to take it to another shop and see if it is the shift forks because we think that is the problem. ------------------ Too much to list. Best ET on the car so far with stock 2.73 gears - 13.73@102mph Indiana Stangers Association Buy your parts here ICQ# 42269241

05-21-2001, 12:18 AM	#13
5ive.oh Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Rocky Posts: 13	I'll bet it's the synchros. Find a used tranny at a junkyard, 83-93 T-5 will work. It'll cost less than a complete teardown and rebuild.