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avbcon12 05-09-2002 07:14 PM

for all those with surging idles...long
 
well, i just got to the root of my surging upon startups. i have been trying to tune everything possible in order to get rid of it. i knew my fuel pressure and timing were right on the mark...

so i then began to think that it had to be mechanical. i started to think about how i had my PCV system now then when my idle was smooth.

i had put a breather in place of the oil cap!

so then i was thinking that since i had the PCV still hooked up in the back of the intake there had to be a huge vacuum loss because i didnt have the tube that goes from the throttle body to the oil neck anymore. the PCV was just pulling air in through the breather i had put on. there was a HUGE vacuum loss!!

what i did was instead of putting the tube back on that goes to the throttle body. i just put a airflow control valve inline of the PCV. so i could keep the vacuum down so it wouldnt be such a huge loss, yet keep enough to evacuate the crankcase gasses.

that little valve solved ALL of my idle problems.
i just wanted to let you guys know because i know there are a lot of people out there that have idle problems...

hope it helps,
adam

gtsr515 05-09-2002 07:21 PM

Your problem was caused by unmetered air introduced into the engine, the result of the open oil breather.

avbcon12 05-09-2002 07:44 PM

exactly!

thanks,
adam

MidNiteBlu 5.0 05-09-2002 08:12 PM

I just put one of those breather caps with a filter and i havent noticed any difference in performance or drivability. I left the tube on though. Are you not sopposed to put breather caps on an efi engine? I just did it because it looks cool lol.

Later,
Nick

avbcon12 05-09-2002 08:18 PM

well, thinking about how you have yours setup. you have a loss in vacuum too. because the PCV system is then open to the atmosphere and not being metered. i dont know how you are not experiencing any problems....

take care,
adam

Mach 1 05-09-2002 09:04 PM

I have tried replacing the oil cap instead of the breather to cure a surging idle problem, and it didnt change anything. Im glad this fixed your car, but I dont think its the answer for everybody.

avbcon12 05-09-2002 09:20 PM

im not saying it is, just trying to give other people ideas...

adam


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