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Twin Turbo - equal or unequal headers?
I've been asking people on turbo message boards if it makes a difference if you use equal or unequal headers on a twin turbo setup. So far they have all been telling me it won't make a bit of difference. I find that a little hard to believe. Any thoughts?
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I have researched the Twin turbo package, and every package comes with its own headers b/c of the turbo. They are for heat produced i guess.
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I thought on a TT car you would have 2 turbo manifolds:confused:
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Yeah you do.
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hey Kevin, I wouldn't think that it would be that big of a difference between the two.
Do you still have the MAC longtubes from your old setup? I need some for my new GT40P combo. We could make somewhat of a trade+cash for my BBK unequal shorties if you were interested. shoot me an email, see ya |
I've been sending you emails. What email are you using now? My old email address isn't working any more. Use webmaster@mustangwarehouse.com or axemanzz@abcs.com
The guy that was supposed to be buying my exhaust says he isn't going to have the cash and that I should come and get it and try to sell to someone else, so if you want to do some swapping I'm game. |
still using drew.lyons@rose-hulman.edu
I've gotten a few emails from ya, so its still workin:) If you ever visit the corral, go to the engine tech forum and find my post about ported GT40P heads and check out the port work that Tim did for me. My eventual goal is to go 11's NA with P heads. I know it will be tough, so thats why I'm wanting some longtubes, just to get me one step closer. I MAY sell the nitrous kit to get a HAL k-member, but not sure yet. I think I'm gonna spray it just once at IRP when spring hits, just to say I've gone 11's before, and also to get them to kick me out for not having a cage:D |
its like this if you have unequal length shorties dont spend the money buying equal or if your like me im having a set of custom made headers equal leangth with the colector at the turbo.
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I have a set of Canfield heads and have yet to find a set of headers cheap enough to want to buy them and cut them up for turbo manifolds. But I do have a set of custom made header flanges made to line up exactly with the ports of these heads. I think it would be a waste not to use these nicely made flanges so I'm thinking I am going to build the headers myself.
I was just wondering if it would be worth it to add all the extra bends it would take to make equal length headers. I had 3 senior guys from a turbo message board tell me it won't make a difference at all with a turbo application. I find that hard to believe because it does with an N/A application. I don't understand how a turbo would change that. Anyone know? |
Im planning on using equals on my upcoming twin turbo set up. Only prob. i see is its gonna be tight getting to those spark plugs and maybe hood clearence.
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i was running stock headers with a extension and bought a set of equal length shorties and peak hp didnt improve but torque and hp were up over the curve untill the lifters gave out.
when i put the new motor together we put in solid roller lifter and let a friend experiment with headrs on the dyno. what he came up with was a equal lenght header full size from a dragster with the collector cut where the turbo flange neede to be low end boost increased dramatically and witht he lifters hp was up to 712 but it was the improvement all over the curve that impresed us both (even with the solid lifters tq and hp increased when the custom headers were installed) problem is they wont fit in the car without some rerouting so he's building me a custom set for $300.00 bones) my old ones were like these i borrowed the picture from my favorite turbo site. toohighpsi. |
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sorry tried to attach a pic but need to learn how to do these things properly
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So you are saying that you dynoed a turbo car with equal and unequal length headers and gained hp when you switched to equals? Just want to clarify this for a few people.
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max hp and tq remained the same but it was up all over the graph
max hp was reached like 750 rpm sooner tq like 1000 rpm that was between the equal and unequal after that we installed solid rollers and tested between equal length headers and come custom pipes he had in the shop. hp an tq were the same but reached sooner we should of really done a boost graph as i believe boost was reached sooner. so for max hp it doesnt matter that much but throught the curve there was a difference. |
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