What does it take for a stock Fox body to keep up with a late model Z28 SS?
 

Anyone know what HP/times these cars have? Aren't they something like 5.7L? I guess right off the bat we are giving them 48 cubes so its not like comparing apples to apples. My guess it that they are around 320HP. They do look a little fat, though. What is their HP/lb ratio? Just wondering what HP should I shoot for it I wanted to keep up with one of these...

being a good driver you should be able to beat z28's all day long but on the other hand if it is a ss then it is going to take a little bit more

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A good driver....I beat my friends 2002 Trans Am WS6 6-speed with my brothers stock 87 GT.

Look at my sig. I can beat a 2001 SS easy at the track. Around here they run 13.40@105 stock, but very from place to place.

New SS Camaros make about 320 hp and if I remember right, weigh in the 3400 neighborhood. The engine is a 5.7 Liter LS1, unless it's an older 4th gen SS, which has an LT1 making less power.

the new ss camaro's hp #s are unrated...

best ive seen one do is near 13flat stock though....so beat that...:)...course, thats a good driver..

did he keep it in 1st gear and the race was for 5miles? theres no way in hell a stock WS6 would lose to a stock 87GT...

4.10's ,slicks, full exhaust a lil' weight reduction and bolt ons usually does the job.

LS-1's run 13.8- 14.4 here @3000ft

Camaro hp #'s for the last model year, 2002, are very rated.. Check Chevy.com. 325 @ 5200 Horsepower. The Z28 got 310 hp @ 5200.

The SS's come standard with a 4 speed auto but optional is a 6 speed. They have a Zexel Torsen differential which is great for launch...the ONLY downfall to these differentials is they cannot handle horsepower. They work WAY better than a traditional limited slip unit.

I have a friend that had a 2002 SS. With just exhaust, it made 331 rwhp. He no longer has it but it was damn quick!!

What are you guys talking about:confused: Mustangs cant beat LS1's. The are unbeatable, and hand assembled by God.

jj...........i'm telling you I raced him and won. My brothers car has a cat-back exhaust, thats it! The car runs 14.0@96 all day long, with over 200,000 miles on it. My friends WS6 ran the best of 13.7@103. I'm not tring to brag, but I know I can drive stick better than him. I ran 13.9@100 with the WS6. It has that crappy hydralic clutch.


Latter :D

So, with all other things being equal, I would need is about 300+ rwhp? That about 340-350 hp at the motor. Hmmmm... it will take quite a bit to get there. Am I pretty close with these numbers?

Lets just face it.........The war is over FORD won! They don't even make the Camaro og TA any more!!!!

Now its on to the IMPORTS!!! :D :D :D

Ha ha...Ford won...yes...which still irritates me. I'm GM at heart....I just own a Ford because I found it cheap and I can't afford more right now. Can't beat cheap power.

But yeah, LS1's are a godsend. Glorious motors. Too complicated though..they're very high tech. Wanna know an even better motor? The LS6...just like the LS1 took over for the LT1, the LS6 is the next one..that's the motor in the new Z06 Corvettes. Can we say 405 hp stock? Wow...not even the 2002 SVT Cobras could keep up with that...although they came damn close, and were priced much better. I have to admit..that car really was well done. 390 hp, 390 ft lbs, a pricetag, if I'm not mistaken, LESS than a BASE MODEL vette... Only thing the Mustang had nothing on the Vette with was handling.

It's been proven time and time again, there is no significant power differences between the base Z28 and an SS. Both are LS1 powered (98-02). Typically the base Z28 is as quick or quicker due to a slight weight advantage over the SS.

The horsepower differences are only slight. 310 versus 325. Sure, 15 horsepower sounds like a lot when you're only making, say 150...but when you're over 300 hp, 15 hp isn't going to make a hell of a lot of a difference....at that point it just boils down to driver skill.

Kinda disappointing they only gave the SS 325 horses...only 15 more than a base Z. But I know why. The base model Corvette was making, I think in the 360 or so neighborhood, and they couldn't have the Camaro coming close to or tying the vette...it's just taboo with Chevy. Hell, back in 89 when Pontiac released the Turbo Trans-Am, they underrated its horsepower because it was too close to the vettes and GM execs were getting nervous. Severely underrated its power. It was posted as about 240 horsepower I believe...but in actuality tests showed it to make closer to 300. And that is a Turbocharged, intercooled 3.8 V6. Amazing...

First you say the 87 is stock.


Then it has a catback. What else you hiding? I love the mustang as much as anybody, but the LS1 deserves much respest. Both cars being stock or close to stock, the mustang with a good driver will win off the line due to better gearing and less weight, but once the LS1 gets moving, it's going to blow by an 87' with 200K miles on it. Either your brother has a freak 87' or the LS1 was running on 7 cyls.

No flames intended, but I've seen enough of both cars in action. Some of you guys are in for a rude awakening when you run one.

I know enough to rev at an LS1 but not to try anything more than that. Although I might get the jump on it once I gain traction through first and some of second possibly just due to the 4.11 rear.

Ok, a few things here...the new Cobra's are a 03 model not a 02 model. No Cobra's were produced in 2002. And second, the 390hp rating that Ford gave the Cobra's is underrated. They make closer to 410-420 bhp.