ported e7's?
could i just have my stock e7's ported to effectively with my ecam, i was thinking porting and 3angle valve job. i've taken everyone's advice and not installed the cam yet, but i really want it installed. will my stock heads be suffice or do i really need to get some aftermarkets? tireburner i figure you probably have a good answer. thanx guys this site is great.
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That combo works very well. Port the stock intake as well.
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Cool!!....another local mustanger here!
Yes, it's been proven the E7 heads can be made to make to make lots of power. I forget the name of the website but (maybe someone here can help me out with that) but they are called "Thumper heads" and this guy ports & polishes your E7 heads and does optional other things with them and thses heads are supposed to really make power. I don't know if you plan on porting them yourself or what but there is a machine shop in Catawissa called CROSSLEY'S that really does excellent machine work. BTW, what year mustang do you have? |
local stanger
i actually have 3
an 89 gt blue/silver a 92 black gt i just picked up and a 9935th ann gt red/black i'm trying to slowly mod the 89, on a budget mind you. i was thinking of laubach's in bloom. any idea on them. |
http://www.cmc.net/~xero/Mousesporting.html
Check out the above link and read at it at your leasure. It's got a lot of valueable info. Basicly you want to remove the emisson bump in the exhaust port, take off some of the material around the pushrod on the intake port, and work the vavle guides. The e-303 cam will work pretty well with ported stock heads. Port the intake too while your in there. Have you already bought the E-303 cam? If not I would advise aginst it and suggest instead you go with a TFS #1 cam. The e-303 is a tollerable cam and performs fairly well, but it's out-dated and often seems to cause a idle problems. Quote:
Hell, Drew (FiveOhPatrol) picked up a set of BRAND NEW Pro Topline 200cc aluminum heads for $800 bucks from Summit (they were on clearance) |
I cant remember the exact website, but if u still want the thumperheads website I will get it off my computer tom...at work now.
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www.thumperoforangepark.com
Lots of guys have run his heads with my ported lower and made very good power - 250-260RWHP and 300+RWTQ. |
IMO, dont waste your time on E7's. I used to run ported E7's and I had more money in them than I have in my canfield aluminum heads.
I had them ported, polished, milled, 3 angle valve job, and trick flow springs. They performed well but pale in comparison to aftermarket aluminum heads. JMO, |
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Terra's speed shop is also good but expensive. |
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I had my stock 351w heads ported/ploished, new guides,springsinstalled, and oversize stainless valves installed for a little more than $700...............not bad |
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For $700 you can find used, low mileage aluminum heads all over sites like the Corral, that will walk all over a set of ported stock heads. -Josh, aka the tireburner |
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My $700 got me fresh heads, new parts and peace of mind that they will last me a long time. I'm sorry but if you are going to buy heads then buy new ones....iron or aluminum or have the ones you have rebuilt. Paying $700 for used heads could get you $700 worth of junk. bailey_57 , your best "bang for the buck" would probably be the thumper heads since you are on a budget. |
ported e7's
thanks guys, i am in fact on a very minimal budget, from what i've been told the e cam i have will work great for now with ported e7's. i'm putting off on the afr's until i have the bucko's.:D
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I also have debated buying used heads off the internet. Seems to me like a risky chance to get a set of $700 paper weights.
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You just have to buy heads from a reputable person. You wouldn't buy a car from a shady used car dealership would you?
I like going fast for the least amount of money. $600+ bucks for ported stock castings is a 100% total waste of money IMO. I just can't justify in my mind spending that much money on STOCK heads when there are so many more options that will net you more performance for less money. Ask any hardcore stanger here and they'll tell you the same thing. (dark 5.0, fiveohpatrol, bos55 come to mind) The money you save can be put towards other mods that will ultimatly make your car even faster. If your gonna buy stock heads then talk to Jeff Chambers and get yourself a set of GT-40P heads and port them or have them ported. That will save you several hundred bucks . -Josh, aka the tireburner |
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We are not all born with silver spoons in our mouths and can afford "Canfield" heads....oooohhhh:rolleyes: Before I built my engine, I had a goal in mind, bought the parts, assembled the engine(myself BTW) and ended up with a product that was much better than expected. I say that's money well spent!! Sorry dude but you kind of pissed me off when you started telling me how I wasted my money...blah blah blah As far as buying a car from a "shady" used car person, how does anyone know he's shady until they get the car home and realize about a week later they bought a POS? I'm happy with how my engine runs and the money I spent on it and that's all that really matters. BTW.....I'd love to hear you tell they guy that builds those THUMPER heads that he's wasting his time with STOCK heads and tell all the people who bought his heads that they too also wasted their money. Hell...while you're at it, you may as well tell TMOSS that he's wasting his time on STOCK lower intakes. |
I am not saying he should dump the money into his stock heads. I believe that with the vast knowledge on this board, people could help talk him through a few small self porting steps that could really wake the e7's up. Then he would have very little money in the e7's...but have a better flowing head to compliment the cam.
Anyone can buy a set of aluminum heads and bolt them on. He would probably rather do that. But y not teach him how the head works....what it is in his heads now that is holding him back....and let him work his way to the aluminum heads (when funds allow). Ryan |
With a set of E7s that I ported, my car ran 12.70s @ 107. Now with the car gutted, a stock motor runs 12.40s @ 108. Just for the argument I woud love to see another junkyard motor with "Thumper" or "POWER" heads on it with cobra intake and a B cam. I am currently porting my Alum heads. I had a professional do one cylinder and I am duplicating the rest. This port job is way more shaping and changing to the runners than I ever did to my E7s. I would love to see a good set of E7s on my car now. Matter fact this has got me thinking about backing up the stroker for a few more months.
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Reshaping ports in an intake or a head is where the REAL power comes from, not just going in and hogging the runners out larger. |
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-Josh, aka the tireburner |
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