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XBAJBUSX 11-09-2004 01:13 AM

explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
i was woundering if i get complete explore 5.0 engine what mods you have to do to fit it in to 1988 mustang gt 5 spd is the tranny housing the same or is just easy swap please let me know thanx

GhOsT6_9 11-09-2004 11:10 AM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
Should be a fairly simple swap overall.

You'll need to swap motor mounts. Then make sure ya have all the electronics for the new motor since the 4.6L ECU won't work, unless you go carb'd. Although if you go with EFI the explorer ECU uses the PATS system which can be a PITA. Oh and you'll have to make sure you get the proper exhaust, don't use the explorer exhaust manifolds cuz they use a y-pipe to single exhaust. Get the exhaust parts off of a Mustang so you can have full duals.

As for tranny I'm not sure if it bolts up or not, I believe that it does but could be wrong.

I'm sure there's lots of other little small things but thats probably most of the major things.

XBAJBUSX 11-09-2004 12:17 PM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
i'm talking about 5.0 explorer engine not 4.6

Unit 5302 11-10-2004 01:08 AM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
I think he got side-tracked a little.

The Explorer engine is a direct swap, for the most part. I believe you can use the stock 5.0 headers with the GT-40P heads on late 96+ Explorer 5.0's, but it's a really tight squeeze. You can also use the Explorer headers. The best thing to do is use GT-40P specific headers to maximize the performance gain. Another problem is the camshaft.

I don't know about the flywheel vs ring gear, and whether or not you'll need to drill anything out there. Also, the Exploder engine has no smog pump connections to the back of the heads. You'll probably need to mess around with the throttle body too. Since you have a 88 (I assume non California model) you'll also need to convert to a mass airflow setup because of the camshaft differences between the 5.0HO and the 5.0 Exploder GT-40P engine.

andy669 11-10-2004 07:45 AM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
You'll also need to swap everything from the timing cover, forward. Including the balancer and the distributor. IMO its not really worth all the trouble.

Andy

XBAJBUSX 11-10-2004 12:14 PM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
thank you this was helpfull

tmoss 11-10-2004 01:32 PM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unit 5302
Since you have a 88 (I assume non California model) you'll also need to convert to a mass airflow setup because of the camshaft differences between the 5.0HO and the 5.0 Exploder GT-40P engine.

Easily addressed by swapping in the 5.0 cam. The 85-88 SD cams are known to have faster ramps and better durations than the later cams. The only way to know exactly what you have is to take off the valve events and lobe centers/seperation. My 88 SD cam has 219*I/212.5* duration @ .050" lift with a 112.5 lsa (113*I/112*E lobe centers).

If you have to stay emissions, the Explorer intakes from the 96-early 97 Explorers have the internal EGR passages just like the stock intake,have the bosses in them for drilling/tapping the ACT and EGR coolant lines and will bolt right on. The later 97+ intakes do not have internal EGR passages or the ECT/EGR bosses.

andy669 11-10-2004 02:32 PM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
Oh yeah. Oil pan and pump pick-up as well.

Andy

Coupe50h 11-10-2004 09:01 PM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
imo, id just use the the longblock, and go 5 ohhh all the way from there:) my heads and intake are explorer.

GhOsT6_9 11-11-2004 11:32 AM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
Sorry thought I read that you had a 1998 Stang, not a 88.

Unit 5302 11-11-2004 08:21 PM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmoss
Easily addressed by swapping in the 5.0 cam. The 85-88 SD cams are known to have faster ramps and better durations than the later cams. The only way to know exactly what you have is to take off the valve events and lobe centers/seperation. My 88 SD cam has 219*I/212.5* duration @ .050" lift with a 112.5 lsa (113*I/112*E lobe centers).

If you have to stay emissions, the Explorer intakes from the 96-early 97 Explorers have the internal EGR passages just like the stock intake,have the bosses in them for drilling/tapping the ACT and EGR coolant lines and will bolt right on. The later 97+ intakes do not have internal EGR passages or the ECT/EGR bosses.

I would hope that with GT-40 heads you wouldn't be swapping in the HO cam. Technically, if you wanted to take the time and tune it, you could swap the cams, but it doesn't sound like that's his idea of fun.

The early 96's had smog pump passages in the heads because they didn't have GT-40P heads. They came equipped with GT-40 Irons.

tmoss 11-11-2004 10:34 PM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
The stock HO cam is better than the Explorer cam that's for sure. I'm at 277RWHP and 330RWTQ with mine at this stage.

If he doesn't want to swap cams, timing cover and the other things that need to be done, then he shouldn't even be thinking of doing this.

Coupe50h 11-13-2004 07:48 PM

Re: explorer 5.0 engine swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmoss
The stock HO cam is better than the Explorer cam that's for sure. I'm at 277RWHP and 330RWTQ with mine at this stage.

If he doesn't want to swap cams, timing cover and the other things that need to be done, then he shouldn't even be thinking of doing this.

Good point, and also i might add, with a exploder cam, and stock valvesprings, he'll be pulling hard to a whopping 4k rpm :D vs the 5.0, or at least a cobra cam would pull alot further, especially with some roller rockers.


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