nned opinions please

jimdrechsler · 12-04-2004, 07:15 PM

ok, i am thinking of getting a super charger over the winter- probably used one. can you guide me as to what kind i want, and any othe partsi need to buy to have it installed. also, i have 30# injectors now that people say are killing me in power. i was thinking of going to 24#, any thoughts? i want to spend as little as possible and dont want to go too extreme with the charger. just want something that will pick me up a bunch without nitrous all the time. speaking of which i will have the 75 shot hooled up to it. thanks a lot!

jim

~The Jester~ · 12-04-2004, 08:41 PM

IMHO stay away from the nitrous if your're gonna 'charge it. An absolute tuning nightmare. I'm a big nitrous guy, and it's a bitch when it wants to be, I can't imagine trying to tune it with even 6 lbs of boost on top. If you want to 'charge it, great. There is tons of information out there, the same goes with nitrous. Don't mix them both until you have 1 of them HANDS DOWN figured out.

Dance with the girl you brought to the dance.

jimdrechsler · 12-05-2004, 11:42 AM

thanks for the advice, any other opinions? about injectors too?

Dave_mustang_50 · 12-05-2004, 12:31 PM

How much boost are you looking for?

jimdrechsler · 12-05-2004, 04:44 PM

i honestly am not sure. would like something to get me in the range of the nitrous shot without it. how much boost would take a full second (close to) off in the 1/4? thanks,

i also have a chance of buying some 24# injectors used for about 120 or 140, cant remember. should i grab them?
jim

jimdrechsler · 12-13-2004, 09:06 PM

anyone ?????

88fivepointoh · 12-14-2004, 03:36 PM

Hey there, Long time no talk. Keep the 30's, its in your best interest. If you SC it, the extra fuel will make your motor happy. I like the paxton SC'ers, however, if you can swing a kenny Bell, awsome.. hehehe.. There all the same, vortec, paxton, its all the same stuff.

jimdrechsler · 12-14-2004, 04:06 PM

thanks, this weather blows huh??? sounds like the kenny belles are more expensive, so ill look into the paxtons. thanks. anything else i will need to run a SC? i have a 155 lph pump now.

GhOsT6_9 · 12-14-2004, 04:51 PM

Whats going to be the main use for your car?? Drag racing, or just fun on the street??

If you plan on using it mainly for the track I'd go with a centrifulgal S/C. If its gonna stick mainly to cruzin and such then go with a roots type S/C.

With centrifulgal S/C's I'm a fan of the procharger P-1SC, but any of the big 3 are good (Vortec, Paxton, ATI). For the roots, Kenny Belle seems to be the one to go with.

For your injectors if you're gonna add a S/C keep the 30#'s you're gonna need them.

Want to take 1 sec off your 1/4 mile time, you'll need to run probably 8-10lbs of boost, give or take, and get some slicks or DR's. With stock bottom end wouldn't go past 10-12 lbs of boost.

Surf the web there's tons of info on S/C's, you'll probably find more then you want to know.

jimdrechsler · 12-15-2004, 08:23 PM

thanks again for the info. i want to keep it a daily driver, however i have another car on the raod the same time this is on the road. i was thinking of the 8-10 paxton super charger. i was also thinking of buying a used one. what are your thoughts on buying a used one. i can save a lot of money, however will i suffer in the longevity of the charger? i have DR's on there now which helped a ton!

GhOsT6_9 · 12-16-2004, 03:55 PM

With the used supercharger's you should be ok with them. Just make sure you check for any play in the pulley and turbine, both front to back and side to side. That could give you a sign of whether the bearings are gone or not.

I personally wouldn't buy a used one unless I knew the person, just cuz of the amount of $$ being spent, but thats just me. That and I like having a warranty incase it flies apart or something. Just remember with the used stuff its buyer beware with a tail light warranty.

jimdrechsler · 12-19-2004, 03:15 PM

http://www.superstallions.com/forum/tm.asp?m=51908
what does this look like to you and does it have everyhitng i need to put it in my car?

thanks,

jim

12-04-2004, 07:15 PM	#1
jimdrechsler Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 167	nned opinions please ok, i am thinking of getting a super charger over the winter- probably used one. can you guide me as to what kind i want, and any othe partsi need to buy to have it installed. also, i have 30# injectors now that people say are killing me in power. i was thinking of going to 24#, any thoughts? i want to spend as little as possible and dont want to go too extreme with the charger. just want something that will pick me up a bunch without nitrous all the time. speaking of which i will have the 75 shot hooled up to it. thanks a lot! jim __________________ OLD CAR-89 lx convt- Flowtech II headers, H-pipe, 2 1/2 "flowmasters- pulleys- 3.73's, ripper shifter- ram air- Best 1/4 mile time- a measley 14.2 at 98.6 PRESENT CAR- 90 LX BBK long tubes, h-pipe with cats, flowmasters. 3.55's holley systemax II kit- 70 mm TB 30#injectors, jacobs ignition, black magic fan, 180 thermostat, 75 shot of NOS- NITTO DR'S STREET TIRE BEST RUNS 1/4 mile13.2 @112 w/ NOS 2.17 60' 13.5 @103 2.1 60' *new time with Dr's 12.8 at 111 w/ 75 shot

12-04-2004, 08:41 PM	#2
~The Jester~ Rat Killer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cold ass Ohio Posts: 1,143	Re: nned opinions please IMHO stay away from the nitrous if your're gonna 'charge it. An absolute tuning nightmare. I'm a big nitrous guy, and it's a bitch when it wants to be, I can't imagine trying to tune it with even 6 lbs of boost on top. If you want to 'charge it, great. There is tons of information out there, the same goes with nitrous. Don't mix them both until you have 1 of them HANDS DOWN figured out. Dance with the girl you brought to the dance. __________________ d-Con Racing "Nothing fancy, just 347 inches of RAT POISON!" MICE need not apply.....

12-05-2004, 11:42 AM	#3
jimdrechsler Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 167	Re: nned opinions please thanks for the advice, any other opinions? about injectors too? __________________ OLD CAR-89 lx convt- Flowtech II headers, H-pipe, 2 1/2 "flowmasters- pulleys- 3.73's, ripper shifter- ram air- Best 1/4 mile time- a measley 14.2 at 98.6 PRESENT CAR- 90 LX BBK long tubes, h-pipe with cats, flowmasters. 3.55's holley systemax II kit- 70 mm TB 30#injectors, jacobs ignition, black magic fan, 180 thermostat, 75 shot of NOS- NITTO DR'S STREET TIRE BEST RUNS 1/4 mile13.2 @112 w/ NOS 2.17 60' 13.5 @103 2.1 60' *new time with Dr's 12.8 at 111 w/ 75 shot

12-05-2004, 12:31 PM	#4
Dave_mustang_50 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 483	Re: nned opinions please How much boost are you looking for? __________________ 1969 Mach 1 351C with a c6(for now) Sold 92 Rag Top GT Procharged & intercooled DSS 331 LC Holley Systemax 2 Intake, Edelbrock RPM Heads,E 303 ,blow thru air meter, race bypass, 42 pph injectors,65mm tb,1.7 rr, Mac long tube headers w/off road H pipe, Force 2 catback, TKO,Pro 5.0, K&N, Alum DS,3 core radiator, subframe connectors,3.73`s, Nitto DR`s and a Heavy Foot.

12-05-2004, 04:44 PM	#5
jimdrechsler Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 167	Re: nned opinions please i honestly am not sure. would like something to get me in the range of the nitrous shot without it. how much boost would take a full second (close to) off in the 1/4? thanks, i also have a chance of buying some 24# injectors used for about 120 or 140, cant remember. should i grab them? jim __________________ OLD CAR-89 lx convt- Flowtech II headers, H-pipe, 2 1/2 "flowmasters- pulleys- 3.73's, ripper shifter- ram air- Best 1/4 mile time- a measley 14.2 at 98.6 PRESENT CAR- 90 LX BBK long tubes, h-pipe with cats, flowmasters. 3.55's holley systemax II kit- 70 mm TB 30#injectors, jacobs ignition, black magic fan, 180 thermostat, 75 shot of NOS- NITTO DR'S STREET TIRE BEST RUNS 1/4 mile13.2 @112 w/ NOS 2.17 60' 13.5 @103 2.1 60' *new time with Dr's 12.8 at 111 w/ 75 shot

12-13-2004, 09:06 PM	#6
jimdrechsler Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 167	Re: nned opinions please anyone ????? __________________ OLD CAR-89 lx convt- Flowtech II headers, H-pipe, 2 1/2 "flowmasters- pulleys- 3.73's, ripper shifter- ram air- Best 1/4 mile time- a measley 14.2 at 98.6 PRESENT CAR- 90 LX BBK long tubes, h-pipe with cats, flowmasters. 3.55's holley systemax II kit- 70 mm TB 30#injectors, jacobs ignition, black magic fan, 180 thermostat, 75 shot of NOS- NITTO DR'S STREET TIRE BEST RUNS 1/4 mile13.2 @112 w/ NOS 2.17 60' 13.5 @103 2.1 60' *new time with Dr's 12.8 at 111 w/ 75 shot

12-14-2004, 03:36 PM	#7
88fivepointoh Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rochester Posts: 553	Re: nned opinions please Hey there, Long time no talk. Keep the 30's, its in your best interest. If you SC it, the extra fuel will make your motor happy. I like the paxton SC'ers, however, if you can swing a kenny Bell, awsome.. hehehe.. There all the same, vortec, paxton, its all the same stuff.

12-14-2004, 04:06 PM	#8
jimdrechsler Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 167	Re: nned opinions please thanks, this weather blows huh??? sounds like the kenny belles are more expensive, so ill look into the paxtons. thanks. anything else i will need to run a SC? i have a 155 lph pump now. __________________ OLD CAR-89 lx convt- Flowtech II headers, H-pipe, 2 1/2 "flowmasters- pulleys- 3.73's, ripper shifter- ram air- Best 1/4 mile time- a measley 14.2 at 98.6 PRESENT CAR- 90 LX BBK long tubes, h-pipe with cats, flowmasters. 3.55's holley systemax II kit- 70 mm TB 30#injectors, jacobs ignition, black magic fan, 180 thermostat, 75 shot of NOS- NITTO DR'S STREET TIRE BEST RUNS 1/4 mile13.2 @112 w/ NOS 2.17 60' 13.5 @103 2.1 60' *new time with Dr's 12.8 at 111 w/ 75 shot

12-14-2004, 04:51 PM	#9
GhOsT6_9 Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 233	Re: nned opinions please Whats going to be the main use for your car?? Drag racing, or just fun on the street?? If you plan on using it mainly for the track I'd go with a centrifulgal S/C. If its gonna stick mainly to cruzin and such then go with a roots type S/C. With centrifulgal S/C's I'm a fan of the procharger P-1SC, but any of the big 3 are good (Vortec, Paxton, ATI). For the roots, Kenny Belle seems to be the one to go with. For your injectors if you're gonna add a S/C keep the 30#'s you're gonna need them. Want to take 1 sec off your 1/4 mile time, you'll need to run probably 8-10lbs of boost, give or take, and get some slicks or DR's. With stock bottom end wouldn't go past 10-12 lbs of boost. Surf the web there's tons of info on S/C's, you'll probably find more then you want to know. __________________ 1989 Mustang LX Notch 5.0L, T-5, 1969 351W heads, cut & welded stock plenum, F-303 cam, Mac 1 5/8 full length headers, Cat'd H-pipe, 3.73 gears, Underdrives, SSM lift bars, E-Fan, 3G Alt, Custom Chip, Autometer gauges, Weld Draglite wheels , M/T ET Street Radials Best 1/4: 13.33@101.53MPH

12-15-2004, 08:23 PM	#10
jimdrechsler Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 167	Re: nned opinions please thanks again for the info. i want to keep it a daily driver, however i have another car on the raod the same time this is on the road. i was thinking of the 8-10 paxton super charger. i was also thinking of buying a used one. what are your thoughts on buying a used one. i can save a lot of money, however will i suffer in the longevity of the charger? i have DR's on there now which helped a ton! __________________ OLD CAR-89 lx convt- Flowtech II headers, H-pipe, 2 1/2 "flowmasters- pulleys- 3.73's, ripper shifter- ram air- Best 1/4 mile time- a measley 14.2 at 98.6 PRESENT CAR- 90 LX BBK long tubes, h-pipe with cats, flowmasters. 3.55's holley systemax II kit- 70 mm TB 30#injectors, jacobs ignition, black magic fan, 180 thermostat, 75 shot of NOS- NITTO DR'S STREET TIRE BEST RUNS 1/4 mile13.2 @112 w/ NOS 2.17 60' 13.5 @103 2.1 60' *new time with Dr's 12.8 at 111 w/ 75 shot

12-16-2004, 03:55 PM	#11
GhOsT6_9 Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 233	Re: nned opinions please With the used supercharger's you should be ok with them. Just make sure you check for any play in the pulley and turbine, both front to back and side to side. That could give you a sign of whether the bearings are gone or not. I personally wouldn't buy a used one unless I knew the person, just cuz of the amount of $$ being spent, but thats just me. That and I like having a warranty incase it flies apart or something. Just remember with the used stuff its buyer beware with a tail light warranty. __________________ 1989 Mustang LX Notch 5.0L, T-5, 1969 351W heads, cut & welded stock plenum, F-303 cam, Mac 1 5/8 full length headers, Cat'd H-pipe, 3.73 gears, Underdrives, SSM lift bars, E-Fan, 3G Alt, Custom Chip, Autometer gauges, Weld Draglite wheels , M/T ET Street Radials Best 1/4: 13.33@101.53MPH

12-19-2004, 03:15 PM	#12
jimdrechsler Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 167	Re: nned opinions please http://www.superstallions.com/forum/tm.asp?m=51908 what does this look like to you and does it have everyhitng i need to put it in my car? thanks, jim __________________ OLD CAR-89 lx convt- Flowtech II headers, H-pipe, 2 1/2 "flowmasters- pulleys- 3.73's, ripper shifter- ram air- Best 1/4 mile time- a measley 14.2 at 98.6 PRESENT CAR- 90 LX BBK long tubes, h-pipe with cats, flowmasters. 3.55's holley systemax II kit- 70 mm TB 30#injectors, jacobs ignition, black magic fan, 180 thermostat, 75 shot of NOS- NITTO DR'S STREET TIRE BEST RUNS 1/4 mile13.2 @112 w/ NOS 2.17 60' 13.5 @103 2.1 60' *new time with Dr's 12.8 at 111 w/ 75 shot

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