Got a used b303 today

bigred90gt · 05-04-2003, 02:05 AM

I need to know how important it is to buy new lifters with it. I got it at a swap meet at FFW houston today for $50. The guy said it was only in the car for about a month. It still looks new. The lifters I have now only have about 50,000 miles on them. I had my engine re-built and bored .040 in 2001. I still am going to use the stock heads, although I have plans to have them re-worked in a while at which time I'll get new rockers and lifters with pushrods. I dont know how to degree a cam so how hard is it just to install it, right? Thanks for the help folks!

Caymon

Shaggy · 05-04-2003, 02:40 AM

It is fine to reuse your lifters as long as they were good... reusing flat tappets is a no-no but reusing rollers is fine.

Coupe50h · 05-04-2003, 02:46 AM

hydraulic roller lifters can be re-used, i re-used mine, a few of them even had some wear marks, also used my stock pushrods with gt-40 heads, the cam was pretty easy all in all, as long as the heads are off, go for it.
just buy some new head bolts, also, i didnt degree my e-cam, (should have) just installed it straight up, although i havent pulled any good times yet, i will be on slicks next time, expecting a high 12 at least.
many people told me to degree it though, i should be pulling 105 mph out of it way it is, soon as it is tuned.

bigred90gt · 05-04-2003, 05:12 PM

Would it be easier to leave the heads on and take the rockers off, or just take the heads off? i'm thinking just take the heads o9ff. If I do, how hard would it be to get the heads back on with the rockers still in place? Or would I have to re-do the rockers anyways? Also, can someone with a similar set up give me an idea of what kind of gains I can expect with it? Thanks for the help.

Caymon

Shaggy · 05-04-2003, 07:01 PM

For just a cam swap there is no reason to pull you heads.. all you need to do is remove the water pump timing timing cover radiator, valve covers, rockers, pushrods the lifters and intake or optional IF you want to buy yet another tool...

If not then it is mandantory to pull the intake and lifters.

SuperCleanLX · 05-04-2003, 10:41 PM

i was also wondering on what i would have to do to put a cam in from the looks of it the cam would be to long to squeze in between the condensor and the block... is it possible to leave the motor where it is and get the new cam in safely?

and what is this tool in the pic?

heres another one what is it when u degree ur cam?

i was thinking about the b303 what are ur thoughts? my car is mildly modified(intake, tb, maf, exhaust, gears) it is also a 5 speed if that matters

sorry if i steal the post....

Shaggy · 05-05-2003, 07:32 AM

Okay First those tools have a really strong magnet on the end of them and what you do is once the pushrods are out put one in each pushrod hole lift it up just a little (enough for the cam to clear the lifters) then spin the wing down to the head to hole it there while you do the other 7 once that is done the pull the cam out slide new one in and undo lifters tools and voila no intake removal necessary. (that picture was ripped from Anderson Ford Motorsport who sells them premade)

Two no it won't clear the condenser if left sitting there but with the condenser not mounted but ac hoses hooked up still, so you don't have to evacuate and recharge the ac, it moves around enough to get it out of the way just be careful with it.

bigred90gt · 05-05-2003, 08:32 AM

So I guess this will be a good time for me to remove my condensor. I still have the compressor, but all the lines are gone. The compressor is serving as a pulley right now. Is it the FRPP a/c eliminator kit that moves the power steering pump?

Caymon

Shaggy · 05-05-2003, 09:49 AM

Yes the FRPP one is the relocation bracket for teh PS pump.. Tomie Vaughn stocks them and isn't to far from you.

bigred90gt · 05-05-2003, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaggy
Yes the FRPP one is the relocation bracket for teh PS pump.. Tomie Vaughn stocks them and isn't to far from you.

I love that place. Its only 25 min from my house and you can get anything you need. Do you know about how much they run? Also, does anyone know about what I can expect with this cam? Idle quality, power gains, sound? Thanks.

Caymon

bigred90gt · 05-05-2003, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigred90gt
Also, does anyone know about what I can expect with this cam? Idle quality, power gains, sound? Thanks.

Anyone?

Hethj7 · 05-06-2003, 11:17 PM

I am using the B cam in my combo, but I have heads, intake, etc. also. You can see the power I am making. The cam can get a good sound to it when the idle is turned down a little. My idle quality is pretty good, although I get a little bit of a surge when the engine is cold sometimes. In the winter it gets even worse.

bigred90gt · 05-06-2003, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hethj7
I am using the B cam in my combo, but I have heads, intake, etc. also. You can see the power I am making. The cam can get a good sound to it when the idle is turned down a little. My idle quality is pretty good, although I get a little bit of a surge when the engine is cold sometimes. In the winter it gets even worse.

We dont really have a winter here. it just cools off. Thanks for the info man.

Caymon

Jeff Chambers · 05-07-2003, 06:57 AM

Are you sure its a B cam? I've seen people try to pass off stock cams at swap meets by putting them in different boxes.

bigred90gt · 05-07-2003, 08:34 AM

I thought about that, but its actually stamped on the end of the cam. It was in an unmarked box with b-303 hand written on the outside. He said he was selling the cam for a friend who wasnt there and to make him an offer. I said $50 and it was mine. Thanks though.

Caymon

Hethj7 · 05-07-2003, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigred90gt
We dont really have a winter here. it just cools off. Caymon

I can only dream of living in a place where that statement is true

.

bigred90gt · 05-07-2003, 09:21 PM

Ya, its nice!!! But the summers blow nuts!! Today it was, at a guess, mid 80's to low 90's with a heat index of like 100 and about 150% humidity. Open the door and break a sweat.

Falcons Talon · 05-07-2003, 09:43 PM

I'm looking very forward to a b-cam and some 1.7 roller rockers from a very respected poster on this board...

While Baytown is hot, try out Brownsville...Lowest tip of South Texas...and my air con just lost the last of its freon!!!

bigred90gt · 05-07-2003, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falcons Talon
I'm looking very forward to a b-cam and some 1.7 roller rockers from a very respected poster on this board...

While Baytown is hot, try out Brownsville...Lowest tip of South Texas...and my air con just lost the last of its freon!!!

Ya, I'm looking really forward to it too!! I just dont know when I'll have time to do it.

Remember "El Nino" like 5 years ago? My AC went out about a week after I got the truck and I had to go through "El Nino" without it!! Talk about a hot mother****er!!

drtbiker · 05-08-2003, 09:14 AM

Im guessing u can run low to mid 13's with that cam, and no head work. But i am not positive. I know my car will go faster i just need to tune it and do a few other things. Aswell as replace the tfi module. The idle is kinda aggressive.

later

05-04-2003, 02:05 AM	#1
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Got a used b303 today I need to know how important it is to buy new lifters with it. I got it at a swap meet at FFW houston today for $50. The guy said it was only in the car for about a month. It still looks new. The lifters I have now only have about 50,000 miles on them. I had my engine re-built and bored .040 in 2001. I still am going to use the stock heads, although I have plans to have them re-worked in a while at which time I'll get new rockers and lifters with pushrods. I dont know how to degree a cam so how hard is it just to install it, right? Thanks for the help folks! Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

05-04-2003, 02:40 AM	#2
Shaggy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 466	It is fine to reuse your lifters as long as they were good... reusing flat tappets is a no-no but reusing rollers is fine. __________________ A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week. George S. Patton, General (1885-1945)

05-04-2003, 02:46 AM	#3
Coupe50h Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 957	hydraulic roller lifters can be re-used, i re-used mine, a few of them even had some wear marks, also used my stock pushrods with gt-40 heads, the cam was pretty easy all in all, as long as the heads are off, go for it. just buy some new head bolts, also, i didnt degree my e-cam, (should have) just installed it straight up, although i havent pulled any good times yet, i will be on slicks next time, expecting a high 12 at least. many people told me to degree it though, i should be pulling 105 mph out of it way it is, soon as it is tuned. __________________ X-Texas highway patrol ssp 1990 coupe - exploder Gt-40 iron heads, Explorer intake, 19 lber's. E-cam. crane 1.7 rollers. 190fp. 75mm maf. 65mm tb, tubular subframe connectors, mac cai, Asp crank pulley, T-5, king cobra clutch, flowtech 1-5/8 unequals, mac X-pipe Frpp driveshaft, lakewood Lca's. race weight 3,160 12.69 @ 107.35, 1.71 60' 26x8.5 drag's 3.90 gear 13.20 @ 106.91 - 235/60/15 firestones 2.3 60' 3.27 gear

05-04-2003, 05:12 PM	#4
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Would it be easier to leave the heads on and take the rockers off, or just take the heads off? i'm thinking just take the heads o9ff. If I do, how hard would it be to get the heads back on with the rockers still in place? Or would I have to re-do the rockers anyways? Also, can someone with a similar set up give me an idea of what kind of gains I can expect with it? Thanks for the help. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

05-04-2003, 07:01 PM	#5
Shaggy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 466	For just a cam swap there is no reason to pull you heads.. all you need to do is remove the water pump timing timing cover radiator, valve covers, rockers, pushrods the lifters and intake or optional IF you want to buy yet another tool... If not then it is mandantory to pull the intake and lifters. __________________ A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week. George S. Patton, General (1885-1945)

05-04-2003, 10:41 PM	#6
SuperCleanLX Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: fargo, ND Posts: 21	i was also wondering on what i would have to do to put a cam in from the looks of it the cam would be to long to squeze in between the condensor and the block... is it possible to leave the motor where it is and get the new cam in safely? and what is this tool in the pic? heres another one what is it when u degree ur cam? i was thinking about the b303 what are ur thoughts? my car is mildly modified(intake, tb, maf, exhaust, gears) it is also a 5 speed if that matters sorry if i steal the post....

05-05-2003, 07:32 AM	#7
Shaggy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 466	Okay First those tools have a really strong magnet on the end of them and what you do is once the pushrods are out put one in each pushrod hole lift it up just a little (enough for the cam to clear the lifters) then spin the wing down to the head to hole it there while you do the other 7 once that is done the pull the cam out slide new one in and undo lifters tools and voila no intake removal necessary. (that picture was ripped from Anderson Ford Motorsport who sells them premade) Two no it won't clear the condenser if left sitting there but with the condenser not mounted but ac hoses hooked up still, so you don't have to evacuate and recharge the ac, it moves around enough to get it out of the way just be careful with it. __________________ A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week. George S. Patton, General (1885-1945)

05-05-2003, 08:32 AM	#8
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	So I guess this will be a good time for me to remove my condensor. I still have the compressor, but all the lines are gone. The compressor is serving as a pulley right now. Is it the FRPP a/c eliminator kit that moves the power steering pump? Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

05-05-2003, 09:49 AM	#9
Shaggy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 466	Yes the FRPP one is the relocation bracket for teh PS pump.. Tomie Vaughn stocks them and isn't to far from you. __________________ A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week. George S. Patton, General (1885-1945)

05-06-2003, 11:17 PM	#12
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	I am using the B cam in my combo, but I have heads, intake, etc. also. You can see the power I am making. The cam can get a good sound to it when the idle is turned down a little. My idle quality is pretty good, although I get a little bit of a surge when the engine is cold sometimes. In the winter it gets even worse. __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

05-07-2003, 06:57 AM	#14
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	Are you sure its a B cam? I've seen people try to pass off stock cams at swap meets by putting them in different boxes. __________________ Jeff Chambers 1990 Mustang GT 10.032 Seconds / 137.5 MPH 14-time Street Warrior World Record Setter CRT Performance 2001 Tropic Green Mustang GT - 12.181 / 113.2 MPH 2002 Ford F-250 Crew Cab 7.3l Power Stroke - 17.41@77.2 "There's nothing boring about a small block automatic shifting gears at 9400 rpm!"

05-07-2003, 08:34 AM	#15
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	I thought about that, but its actually stamped on the end of the cam. It was in an unmarked box with b-303 hand written on the outside. He said he was selling the cam for a friend who wasnt there and to make him an offer. I said $50 and it was mine. Thanks though. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

05-07-2003, 09:21 PM	#17
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Ya, its nice!!! But the summers blow nuts!! Today it was, at a guess, mid 80's to low 90's with a heat index of like 100 and about 150% humidity. Open the door and break a sweat. __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

05-07-2003, 09:43 PM	#18
Falcons Talon T.P.M. President Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brownsville Posts: 265	I'm looking very forward to a b-cam and some 1.7 roller rockers from a very respected poster on this board... While Baytown is hot, try out Brownsville...Lowest tip of South Texas...and my air con just lost the last of its freon!!!

05-08-2003, 09:14 AM	#20
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	Im guessing u can run low to mid 13's with that cam, and no head work. But i am not positive. I know my car will go faster i just need to tune it and do a few other things. Aswell as replace the tfi module. The idle is kinda aggressive. later __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

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