Head swap question

Badass_yellowGT · 10-06-2002, 07:34 PM

Hi all
i have a urgent question to ask tommorrow i plan on purchasing a head swap kit from parkway i have asked many people if i will have a problem with my headers going on right. in the 2002 ford racing catalog the headers say specifically that they will not fit 2000 plus engines but will with minor mods on 99 mustangs since this is a considerable chunk of change i will be dishing out i need to know if anybody has had any problems, that is people who have frpp headers on there 98 stang and have done the swap. i myself don`t see a problem but others i have talked to give me conflicting information also can i still run lower octane gas when i need to.with thw higher compression

thanks in advance

i already did a search and could not find this information

esandes · 10-06-2002, 10:43 PM

I doubt you'll have a problem. I have FRPP heads and shortys. The 99+ head swap will bump up your CR but you shouldn't need premium gas unless you bump the timing.

EC98GTcnvrtble · 10-08-2002, 09:50 AM

I spoke to the guys at Parkway about a month or so ago and they say you shouldn't have any problems, the kit looks pretty much complete and I believe they're using '01 stock heads w/ the stock cams. Let me know how it turns out for you, if you have any problems, and what kind of improvement you get from it, thks!!

46stang · 10-08-2002, 10:01 PM

yea, they bolt right on! I did the headswap on my friends 98 gt. he had the ford shorties as well. it bolted right up! the compression will be over 10.5 to 1. I used premium in my headswapped 96 gt at all times! cheap insurance imho! make sure you get the 01 or newer heads so you can reuse your valve covers!
Leon

Badass_yellowGT · 10-09-2002, 10:00 PM

thats great the guys at parkway said they were 01 heads and intake i asked about the fuel question they said i could run mid grade so long as i`m running stock timing on th engine and i should notice a significant increase since this is the last restrictive piece left on my engine if you haven`t already buy a cold air intake i just did and man what a difference car even idles better

If i used a thicker head gasket will it help my compression and if so what thickness should i get
thanks for all your help

tireburner163 · 10-10-2002, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by esandes
The 99+ head swap will bump up your CR but you shouldn't need premium gas unless you bump the timing.

It bumbs the compression to 11:1. Hell yes you will never premium gas!!!

Badass_yellowGT · 10-10-2002, 10:31 PM

i just got my heads today now i need to find the cam shafter holder i tried some dealers and they will not sell nor rent me the tool i need

and the only guy locally that will do the work for me want`s
$800.00

to do the switch the dealer won`t even do it for me so i`m kinda scewed for now until i get the tool i need .for people in MA who did the swap for you and how much did it cost or were did you get the tool from

and ford racing told me the comp is 10.3:1 with the switch not 11.1:1

46stang · 10-11-2002, 09:21 AM

you dont need the cam holding tool! get a ford service manual though! The cams will rest in the position they are supposed to be in! Then when you put the chains on you only need to rotate them slightly to line them up! the service manual shows it pretty clearly. as for the gasket you would need a really really thick one to make any diff. in compression ratio. meaning i don't think there is such a thing. i allways used factory ones but? $800 isn't too bad of a price imho. it is alot of work. If it's your first one plan on 3 days. not real hard just time consuming!
Leon

springs_stang · 10-12-2002, 11:35 AM

Wouldn't using a thicker gasket on stock height heads muck up the timing on an ohc type engine?

Anyway, here is a write up on what's involved in doing the headswap...... Headswap article

xtrememach1racer · 11-04-2002, 12:38 AM

Hey I am purchasing a complete PI head system from www.powerheads.com and I am just wondering if I can do the install myself? Where could I find details or instructions on this? How many hours might it take? Anyone ever done this before? If you have, how did the new power feel? Also, most importantly, how many hours should I expect to be charged for if I pay a speed shop to do this? Thanks.

Dave

EC98GTcnvrtble · 11-04-2002, 09:11 AM

Hey Badass did you get your heads in, how did it work out?? How's the car running now, let us know, thks!!

Badass_yellowGT · 11-04-2002, 11:19 PM

not yet the car is still in the shop had some problems has anybody with a 98 nustang who has done the swap have any idea how to mout the crossover for the plug wires on the alternator the old bracket held the wires and was also the back support for the alternator the new bracket does not line up with the new intake or back alternator bolt

10-06-2002, 07:34 PM	#1
Badass_yellowGT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western,MA Posts: 254	Head swap question Hi all i have a urgent question to ask tommorrow i plan on purchasing a head swap kit from parkway i have asked many people if i will have a problem with my headers going on right. in the 2002 ford racing catalog the headers say specifically that they will not fit 2000 plus engines but will with minor mods on 99 mustangs since this is a considerable chunk of change i will be dishing out i need to know if anybody has had any problems, that is people who have frpp headers on there 98 stang and have done the swap. i myself don`t see a problem but others i have talked to give me conflicting information also can i still run lower octane gas when i need to.with thw higher compression thanks in advance i already did a search and could not find this information __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #55 For My car Specs Click the Home page link http://www.badassyellowgt.50g.com/

10-06-2002, 10:43 PM	#2
esandes Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 72	I doubt you'll have a problem. I have FRPP heads and shortys. The 99+ head swap will bump up your CR but you shouldn't need premium gas unless you bump the timing. __________________ SSS 98 GT w/ lots of bolt-ons

10-08-2002, 09:50 AM	#3
EC98GTcnvrtble Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: charlotte, nc, usa Posts: 20	I spoke to the guys at Parkway about a month or so ago and they say you shouldn't have any problems, the kit looks pretty much complete and I believe they're using '01 stock heads w/ the stock cams. Let me know how it turns out for you, if you have any problems, and what kind of improvement you get from it, thks!! __________________ 98 GT convrtble, March Underdrive pulleys, K&N filter, homemade ram air, Steeda Tri-ax shifter and Strut Tower Brace, billett MOMO shift knob, billett a/c knobs, billett emergency brake handle, UPr's cable adjuster and triple pick-up quadrant, smoked headlight covers.

10-08-2002, 10:01 PM	#4
46stang Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: moorpark ca Posts: 340	yea, they bolt right on! I did the headswap on my friends 98 gt. he had the ford shorties as well. it bolted right up! the compression will be over 10.5 to 1. I used premium in my headswapped 96 gt at all times! cheap insurance imho! make sure you get the 01 or newer heads so you can reuse your valve covers! Leon __________________ 03 sonic blue cobra coupe, 11.49@122mph bakerfield raceway! 11.67@120mph fontana 98 GT, stock for now.

10-09-2002, 10:00 PM	#5
Badass_yellowGT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western,MA Posts: 254	thats great the guys at parkway said they were 01 heads and intake i asked about the fuel question they said i could run mid grade so long as i`m running stock timing on th engine and i should notice a significant increase since this is the last restrictive piece left on my engine if you haven`t already buy a cold air intake i just did and man what a difference car even idles better If i used a thicker head gasket will it help my compression and if so what thickness should i get thanks for all your help __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #55 For My car Specs Click the Home page link http://www.badassyellowgt.50g.com/ Last edited by Badass_yellowGT; 10-09-2002 at 10:32 PM..

10-10-2002, 10:31 PM	#7
Badass_yellowGT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western,MA Posts: 254	i just got my heads today now i need to find the cam shafter holder i tried some dealers and they will not sell nor rent me the tool i need and the only guy locally that will do the work for me want`s $800.00 to do the switch the dealer won`t even do it for me so i`m kinda scewed for now until i get the tool i need .for people in MA who did the swap for you and how much did it cost or were did you get the tool from and ford racing told me the comp is 10.3:1 with the switch not 11.1:1 __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #55 For My car Specs Click the Home page link http://www.badassyellowgt.50g.com/

10-11-2002, 09:21 AM	#8
46stang Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: moorpark ca Posts: 340	you dont need the cam holding tool! get a ford service manual though! The cams will rest in the position they are supposed to be in! Then when you put the chains on you only need to rotate them slightly to line them up! the service manual shows it pretty clearly. as for the gasket you would need a really really thick one to make any diff. in compression ratio. meaning i don't think there is such a thing. i allways used factory ones but? $800 isn't too bad of a price imho. it is alot of work. If it's your first one plan on 3 days. not real hard just time consuming! Leon __________________ 03 sonic blue cobra coupe, 11.49@122mph bakerfield raceway! 11.67@120mph fontana 98 GT, stock for now.

10-12-2002, 11:35 AM	#9
springs_stang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 24	Wouldn't using a thicker gasket on stock height heads muck up the timing on an ohc type engine? Anyway, here is a write up on what's involved in doing the headswap...... Headswap article __________________ '97 GT Coupe-Laser Red MODS: Steeda Tri-Ax, Steeda T/A, FRPP 3.73s, FRPP Alum. Driveshaft, Magnapack cat-back, MM C/C plates, Fox Lake PI heads, BBK LTs, waiting on brown truck with with my Comp Cams 197.3rwhp 272.8tq

11-04-2002, 12:38 AM	#10
xtrememach1racer Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4	how much time to swap the heads? Hey I am purchasing a complete PI head system from www.powerheads.com and I am just wondering if I can do the install myself? Where could I find details or instructions on this? How many hours might it take? Anyone ever done this before? If you have, how did the new power feel? Also, most importantly, how many hours should I expect to be charged for if I pay a speed shop to do this? Thanks. Dave

11-04-2002, 09:11 AM	#11
EC98GTcnvrtble Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: charlotte, nc, usa Posts: 20	Hey Badass did you get your heads in, how did it work out?? How's the car running now, let us know, thks!! __________________ 98 GT convrtble, March Underdrive pulleys, K&N filter, homemade ram air, Steeda Tri-ax shifter and Strut Tower Brace, billett MOMO shift knob, billett a/c knobs, billett emergency brake handle, UPr's cable adjuster and triple pick-up quadrant, smoked headlight covers.

11-04-2002, 11:19 PM	#12
Badass_yellowGT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western,MA Posts: 254	not yet the car is still in the shop had some problems has anybody with a 98 nustang who has done the swap have any idea how to mout the crossover for the plug wires on the alternator the old bracket held the wires and was also the back support for the alternator the new bracket does not line up with the new intake or back alternator bolt __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #55 For My car Specs Click the Home page link http://www.badassyellowgt.50g.com/

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