How do I remove the A/C and power steering.

Dark_5.0 · 01-06-2003, 01:44 PM

I now have my 90LX near completion and I have removed both the A/c and the power steering.

Problem is now there is no pulley on the drivers side of the engine to run the belt to.

Does someone sell a bracket and pulley for people that have removed both the A/C and power steering.

Or does someone make a water pump that rotates clockwise.

Thanks,

lx mike · 01-06-2003, 03:06 PM

there is a kit that has a pullery you can put where your ac was or you can just reverse your tensioner. here a good place that casn help you with that
www.angelfire.com/ns/PurgingPony/50mainpage.html

cyberstang5.0 · 01-06-2003, 03:32 PM

I'm in the process of removing my A/C and would like to get rid of my powersterring pump too. Can you run a powersterring rack without the pump? Can I just plug up the lines, or will it mess the rack up? I'm assuming there will need to be some fluid in there for lube purposes...

saltzstang · 01-06-2003, 04:32 PM

If you dont drain the rack completely it will be more difficult to turn than if it was drained...my friend experienced this. You can remove the p/s and a/c get a shorter belt and an 83 thunderbird water pump(forward rotation)V8. This will allow you to run the factory tensioner without any modification.

Dark_5.0 · 01-06-2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saltzstang
If you dont drain the rack completely it will be more difficult to turn than if it was drained...my friend experienced this. You can remove the p/s and a/c get a shorter belt and an 83 thunderbird water pump(forward rotation)V8. This will allow you to run the factory tensioner without any modification.

So I just ask for an 83 T-bird alternater. Were they 5.0's or what?

tireburner163 · 01-06-2003, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
So I just ask for an 83 T-bird alternater. Were they 5.0's or what?

83 T-bird water pump

get one from a 5.0/302 powered bird.

saltzstang · 01-06-2003, 06:47 PM

Here is OReilly part#b58-225. The reason you are changing water pump is B/c your belt will just circle the remaining 3 pulleys with the tensioner pushing down on the belt just like stock(changes how the water pump pulley rotates...

saltzstang · 01-06-2003, 06:48 PM

if you want Ill post jpeg of mine...

88workcar · 01-06-2003, 10:08 PM

Salt, post it. I was looking at your sig. You and I would be a race off the tree.

Dark_5.0 · 01-06-2003, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saltzstang
if you want Ill post jpeg of mine...

Yes please post it I would like to see it.

Thanks,

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 01-06-2003, 10:55 PM

better have an electric fan, stock fan will do nothing for the car spinning backwards

saltzstang · 01-07-2003, 10:44 AM

bowties right this setup definatly requires elec fan......sorry I assume that everyone already has change that from the get go....well we all know what assume means.

cyberstang5.0 · 01-07-2003, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by saltzstang
If you dont drain the rack completely it will be more difficult to turn than if it was drained...my friend experienced this.

Huh?

So do I drain it completely? 50%? or make sure it's filled up? Will it mess up the rack if there is not fliud flowing though it like the pump makes it?

saltzstang · 01-07-2003, 10:56 AM

notice the grooved asp pulley....cyberstang, my friend only drove his car down the track and to local drag.......he sold the car before the rack craped out.....and it has to be completely drained. If your driving your car all the time go with the flaming river and universal joint.belt

saltzstang · 01-07-2003, 11:02 AM

sorry wrong picbelt2

Dark_5.0 · 01-07-2003, 11:30 AM

I could just use a forward rotation flex fan.....Right????

saltzstang · 01-07-2003, 12:04 PM

yeah...but for the money why not buy elec fan?

87BOSS351C · 01-07-2003, 01:27 PM

a cheap way to change to a standard rotation w/p and get a grooved w/p pulley is to get the pulleys (crank and w/p) and even the water pump from a mid '80s Lincoln 5.0. I did this to convert my 351C to serpentine belts for $10. My pulleys cam from an '86 Town Car. One note is that there are 2 belts driven off the crank, so you can't use an underdrive crank pulley anymore. just use the front groove to run the w/p and alt and ignore the rear groove. You do, however, endup overdriving the w/p and alt a little bit, good for most street driving, bad at high RPMs at the strip. You may have to shim out the alt a little bit too, so things line up.

Dark_5.0 · 01-07-2003, 01:51 PM

You dont remember off the top of your head how long the belt you need is do you??

87BOSS351C · 01-07-2003, 04:04 PM

I don't remember exactly off the top of my head but it was like 42 3/4" long. I'll be at the shop tonight so I'll check. However, you may need a different length since you have a belt tensioner and a 302. My 351C still uses the old v-belt style belt tightening technique with the alt.

01-06-2003, 01:44 PM	#1
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	How do I remove the A/C and power steering. I now have my 90LX near completion and I have removed both the A/c and the power steering. Problem is now there is no pulley on the drivers side of the engine to run the belt to. Does someone sell a bracket and pulley for people that have removed both the A/C and power steering. Or does someone make a water pump that rotates clockwise. Thanks, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-06-2003, 03:06 PM	#2
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	there is a kit that has a pullery you can put where your ac was or you can just reverse your tensioner. here a good place that casn help you with that www.angelfire.com/ns/PurgingPony/50mainpage.html __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #101

01-06-2003, 04:32 PM	#4
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	If you dont drain the rack completely it will be more difficult to turn than if it was drained...my friend experienced this. You can remove the p/s and a/c get a shorter belt and an 83 thunderbird water pump(forward rotation)V8. This will allow you to run the factory tensioner without any modification. __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

01-06-2003, 06:47 PM	#7
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	Here is OReilly part#b58-225. The reason you are changing water pump is B/c your belt will just circle the remaining 3 pulleys with the tensioner pushing down on the belt just like stock(changes how the water pump pulley rotates... __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

01-06-2003, 06:48 PM	#8
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	if you want Ill post jpeg of mine... __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

01-06-2003, 03:32 PM	#3
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	I'm in the process of removing my A/C and would like to get rid of my powersterring pump too. Can you run a powersterring rack without the pump? Can I just plug up the lines, or will it mess the rack up? I'm assuming there will need to be some fluid in there for lube purposes...

01-06-2003, 10:08 PM	#9
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Salt, post it. I was looking at your sig. You and I would be a race off the tree. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

01-06-2003, 10:55 PM	#11
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	better have an electric fan, stock fan will do nothing for the car spinning backwards __________________ 1984 Bronco II, 36" Michelin Military Tires, 95 EFI 5.0, NP435 Tranny, NP208 Doubler, NP205 Transfer Case, Fill Size Solid Dana 44 Front End, WH Progressive Rate Rock Crawling Coils, Bronco 8.8 Rear, Skyjacker Softride Leafs, 5.13 Gears, Detroit Locker. Final Crawl Ratio Of 175:1 88 GT Best 60ft. 2.181 Best ET 14.350 Best MPH 98.01 ~WRECKED!!!!~

01-07-2003, 10:44 AM	#12
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	bowties right this setup definatly requires elec fan......sorry I assume that everyone already has change that from the get go....well we all know what assume means. __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

01-07-2003, 10:56 AM	#14
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	notice the grooved asp pulley....cyberstang, my friend only drove his car down the track and to local drag.......he sold the car before the rack craped out.....and it has to be completely drained. If your driving your car all the time go with the flaming river and universal joint.belt __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

01-07-2003, 11:02 AM	#15
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	sorry wrong picbelt2 __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

01-07-2003, 11:30 AM	#16
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I could just use a forward rotation flex fan.....Right???? __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-07-2003, 12:04 PM	#17
saltzstang Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: southeast texas Posts: 90	yeah...but for the money why not buy elec fan? __________________ AFR 1492 heads,Track Heat Intake, d.s.s super pro bullet 331, lakewood bell, king cobra, 3550 ,UPR shifter, aluminum shaft, 4.10, 31-spline, spool,hoosier27x10, moroso ds-2, 175-juice, egt...11.40 on motor spray pass coming.

01-07-2003, 01:27 PM	#18
87BOSS351C Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Midland, Michigan Posts: 92	Pulleys a cheap way to change to a standard rotation w/p and get a grooved w/p pulley is to get the pulleys (crank and w/p) and even the water pump from a mid '80s Lincoln 5.0. I did this to convert my 351C to serpentine belts for $10. My pulleys cam from an '86 Town Car. One note is that there are 2 belts driven off the crank, so you can't use an underdrive crank pulley anymore. just use the front groove to run the w/p and alt and ignore the rear groove. You do, however, endup overdriving the w/p and alt a little bit, good for most street driving, bad at high RPMs at the strip. You may have to shim out the alt a little bit too, so things line up. __________________ Black '87 LX 5.0 5 spd T-top with 450hp '71 351 Cleveland 4V, C6 tranny, "and some other stuff" Rice Haters Club Member #124

01-07-2003, 01:51 PM	#19
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	You dont remember off the top of your head how long the belt you need is do you?? __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-07-2003, 04:04 PM	#20
87BOSS351C Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Midland, Michigan Posts: 92	I don't remember exactly off the top of my head but it was like 42 3/4" long. I'll be at the shop tonight so I'll check. However, you may need a different length since you have a belt tensioner and a 302. My 351C still uses the old v-belt style belt tightening technique with the alt. __________________ Black '87 LX 5.0 5 spd T-top with 450hp '71 351 Cleveland 4V, C6 tranny, "and some other stuff" Rice Haters Club Member #124

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