Has anyone experienced this with your exhaust???

moponys · 02-21-2003, 10:36 PM

This morning, my exhaust sounded like it was rattling a little bit when the car was cold.

Then at lunch when I started my car up, there was this stuff that looked kinda like confetti coming out of my tail pipes. Pretty strange.

Then tonight, after I got gas, my car would barely idle and tons of smoke was coming out of the pipes. After a couple minutes it went away and all was normal.

What could this be?

Tony

moponys · 02-22-2003, 01:12 AM

Has anyone seen what looks to be something like bits of paper coming out there tail pipes???

bircky311 · 02-22-2003, 04:59 AM

sounds to me like a set of blown cats(meow). next time you run it, and it acts up, note the color of the catalytic converters... if they're glowin, then get em changed(or pulled off, but I didn't say that). If you run without em, be aware of the fines involved (I think it's $10,000 a cat around here).

02-26-2003, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bircky311
be aware of the fines involved (I think it's $10,000 a cat around here).

$10,000??!! WHAT?! That's insane. Are you sure?! I got a ticket here in So.Cal. a few years ago for not having cats...only cost me a $140 fine. It wasn't even a fix it ticket! I know that was a few years ago...but $10K?? Whoa!

moponys · 02-26-2003, 02:42 PM

Check this out...

I bought two hi flow cats to replace my blown ones and there are some muffler shops that are telling me they won't put my replacements on because they can't touch the cats...

Hello...if my cats are blown, aren't I doing the right and legal thing to put new replacements on??? Legally it's better that going with an off-road pipe although I'd rather have the off-road pipe instead

ChunkFunky · 02-26-2003, 02:57 PM

muffler shops have to fix cats if they are toast... they probably can only LEGALY replace them with OEM or OEM replacement parts... they probablay wouldnt use HI FLOWS even though they are "legal"

but to be honest... it's an easy job.. might as well do them yourself...
-as

moponys · 02-26-2003, 03:03 PM

Would I be able to do them myself even without a welder?

The place I found is gonna charge me 200 to put them on...

ChunkFunky · 02-26-2003, 03:22 PM

to replace the CATS you replace the whole H/X pipe unit.. the factory unit is an H pipe... you can dig up an OEM replacement H pipe I'm sure.. but if you're going to replace them go with a HI FLOW cat'ed pipe.. it'll have only two cats (as opposed to the factory 4) and they'll be designed to flow better then the stock setup.. yet still pass emissions. Though I bet you could land a factory pipe off ebay.. lots of people who dont get inspected will ditch them... I ditched mine, but I have to keep it, once I year I slap them back on to go to the inspection place... get my sticker and take them back off.. it's not HARD but time consuming.. I can afford to spend an afternoon doing it once a year... it's just a couple bolts that hold the pipe up.. it's flanged front and back.. the worst part is the bolts like to rust into place... but some WD40 and some elbow grease should get them off... or worst case a dremel.. cut them off and buy 8 new bolts fo 50 cents..

-as

moponys · 02-26-2003, 03:30 PM

I was thinking about buying a new h-pipe with hi flow cats...

Getting two seperate cats and replacing them on the Bassani X-pipe I have already would come out to about 100 bucks less in price:

199.00 for two magnaflow cats plus 200 labor.

399.00 for bbk h-pipe with cats plus 80 labor.

I'll look for a stock hpipe just in case.

GhettoPop · 02-26-2003, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ChunkFunky
it's just a couple bolts that hold the pipe up.. it's flanged front and back

So there is no welding involved in switching from a stock h pipe to an aftermarket H or X pipe? or vise versa? Just bolts?

moponys · 02-26-2003, 04:56 PM

Yep...just bolts.

I am totally un mechanically inclined but even I could probably put one on, that is if I had a good hydraulic jack and stands....

ChunkFunky · 02-26-2003, 06:43 PM

It hardly seems worth it to weld in new cats into an existing pipe.. since you could swap out the pipes yourself..

It's a tough call, cause you dont have a nice jack or stands.. though I bought a set at WALMAT for 30 bucks and its teh type of thing youll use again... but the swap is easy.. just bolts... like I said before the only issue is bolts that dont wanna come off.. but worst case, you can just CUT them off

but eiter way it looks like you'll be needing new pipes...
check this out, its an option

CATS

-as

moponys · 02-26-2003, 06:53 PM

This is actually what I bought from Brothers Performance:

moponys · 02-26-2003, 06:54 PM

Crap it didn't work...

Well it was the 2.5" magnaflow cats.

Well this will have to do for now.

Thank you,

Tony

02-21-2003, 10:36 PM	#1
moponys Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Antioch, CA 94521 Posts: 181	Has anyone experienced this with your exhaust??? This morning, my exhaust sounded like it was rattling a little bit when the car was cold. Then at lunch when I started my car up, there was this stuff that looked kinda like confetti coming out of my tail pipes. Pretty strange. Then tonight, after I got gas, my car would barely idle and tons of smoke was coming out of the pipes. After a couple minutes it went away and all was normal. What could this be? Tony __________________ N/A 94 GT vert w/aode...12.19 @110 w1.67 60' Some bolt ons

02-22-2003, 01:12 AM	#2
moponys Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Antioch, CA 94521 Posts: 181	Has anyone seen what looks to be something like bits of paper coming out there tail pipes??? __________________ N/A 94 GT vert w/aode...12.19 @110 w1.67 60' Some bolt ons

02-22-2003, 04:59 AM	#3
bircky311 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Butler, PA Posts: 19	sounds to me like a set of blown cats(meow). next time you run it, and it acts up, note the color of the catalytic converters... if they're glowin, then get em changed(or pulled off, but I didn't say that). If you run without em, be aware of the fines involved (I think it's $10,000 a cat around here). __________________ '89 Grand Marquis. Soon to have HO conversion and 3.27s on a trac lok diff "Hot rodding a Grand Marquis is a little like making bourbon out of Geritol." said by John Phillips about the Mercury Marauder. Car and Driver, July 2002.

02-26-2003, 02:42 PM	#5
moponys Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Antioch, CA 94521 Posts: 181	Check this out... I bought two hi flow cats to replace my blown ones and there are some muffler shops that are telling me they won't put my replacements on because they can't touch the cats... Hello...if my cats are blown, aren't I doing the right and legal thing to put new replacements on??? Legally it's better that going with an off-road pipe although I'd rather have the off-road pipe instead __________________ N/A 94 GT vert w/aode...12.19 @110 w1.67 60' Some bolt ons

02-26-2003, 02:57 PM	#6
ChunkFunky Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 465	muffler shops have to fix cats if they are toast... they probably can only LEGALY replace them with OEM or OEM replacement parts... they probablay wouldnt use HI FLOWS even though they are "legal" but to be honest... it's an easy job.. might as well do them yourself... -as __________________ '89 GT Convertible: TFS TW Heads, TFS Street Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FMS 1.6 RRs, 24# Injectors, Pro-M 75mm MAF, No Name CAI, 3.73s, O/R H-Pipe, FlowMasters, AOD w/ Trans-Go Shift Kit

02-26-2003, 03:03 PM	#7
moponys Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Antioch, CA 94521 Posts: 181	Would I be able to do them myself even without a welder? The place I found is gonna charge me 200 to put them on... __________________ N/A 94 GT vert w/aode...12.19 @110 w1.67 60' Some bolt ons

02-26-2003, 03:22 PM	#8
ChunkFunky Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 465	to replace the CATS you replace the whole H/X pipe unit.. the factory unit is an H pipe... you can dig up an OEM replacement H pipe I'm sure.. but if you're going to replace them go with a HI FLOW cat'ed pipe.. it'll have only two cats (as opposed to the factory 4) and they'll be designed to flow better then the stock setup.. yet still pass emissions. Though I bet you could land a factory pipe off ebay.. lots of people who dont get inspected will ditch them... I ditched mine, but I have to keep it, once I year I slap them back on to go to the inspection place... get my sticker and take them back off.. it's not HARD but time consuming.. I can afford to spend an afternoon doing it once a year... it's just a couple bolts that hold the pipe up.. it's flanged front and back.. the worst part is the bolts like to rust into place... but some WD40 and some elbow grease should get them off... or worst case a dremel.. cut them off and buy 8 new bolts fo 50 cents.. -as __________________ '89 GT Convertible: TFS TW Heads, TFS Street Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FMS 1.6 RRs, 24# Injectors, Pro-M 75mm MAF, No Name CAI, 3.73s, O/R H-Pipe, FlowMasters, AOD w/ Trans-Go Shift Kit

02-26-2003, 03:30 PM	#9
moponys Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Antioch, CA 94521 Posts: 181	I was thinking about buying a new h-pipe with hi flow cats... Getting two seperate cats and replacing them on the Bassani X-pipe I have already would come out to about 100 bucks less in price: 199.00 for two magnaflow cats plus 200 labor. 399.00 for bbk h-pipe with cats plus 80 labor. I'll look for a stock hpipe just in case. __________________ N/A 94 GT vert w/aode...12.19 @110 w1.67 60' Some bolt ons

02-26-2003, 04:56 PM	#11
moponys Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Antioch, CA 94521 Posts: 181	Yep...just bolts. I am totally un mechanically inclined but even I could probably put one on, that is if I had a good hydraulic jack and stands.... __________________ N/A 94 GT vert w/aode...12.19 @110 w1.67 60' Some bolt ons

02-26-2003, 06:43 PM	#12
ChunkFunky Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 465	It hardly seems worth it to weld in new cats into an existing pipe.. since you could swap out the pipes yourself.. It's a tough call, cause you dont have a nice jack or stands.. though I bought a set at WALMAT for 30 bucks and its teh type of thing youll use again... but the swap is easy.. just bolts... like I said before the only issue is bolts that dont wanna come off.. but worst case, you can just CUT them off but eiter way it looks like you'll be needing new pipes... check this out, its an option CATS -as __________________ '89 GT Convertible: TFS TW Heads, TFS Street Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FMS 1.6 RRs, 24# Injectors, Pro-M 75mm MAF, No Name CAI, 3.73s, O/R H-Pipe, FlowMasters, AOD w/ Trans-Go Shift Kit

02-26-2003, 06:53 PM	#13
moponys Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Antioch, CA 94521 Posts: 181	This is actually what I bought from Brothers Performance: __________________ N/A 94 GT vert w/aode...12.19 @110 w1.67 60' Some bolt ons

02-26-2003, 06:54 PM	#14
moponys Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Antioch, CA 94521 Posts: 181	Crap it didn't work... Well it was the 2.5" magnaflow cats. Well this will have to do for now. Thank you, Tony __________________ N/A 94 GT vert w/aode...12.19 @110 w1.67 60' Some bolt ons

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