Intake

bigred90gt · 10-21-2002, 11:57 AM

I met a guy last night at the track that said he had a used cobra intake and a used set of AFR heads. I don't know enough about heads to want to buy a used set from someone I don't know. But the intake is another story. Is there anything I need to look for to insure the quality of the intake? Would the cobra intake make enough of a difference in the power to be worth the $250 he is asking and the effort to put it on? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Caymon

429mustang · 10-21-2002, 12:19 PM

Does he want $250 for the intake & heads? The heads go new for over $1000, the intake new is 400-500 $$$$, I'd definitely get them. What kind of setup are you running?

bigred90gt · 10-21-2002, 12:44 PM

$250 is just for the intake. I didn't inquire about the heads, wereas I don't feel comfortable buying used ones from someone I don't know. The set-up I'm running is just what you see in my sig. I am just curious if the power gains from the intake are worth the time and money, and if there is anything I need to look for as far as wear and tear on the intake before buying it.
Thanks,
Caymon

LX XLR8R · 10-21-2002, 01:46 PM

grab it it is a good intake for what you have and it can expand well with a mild cam and heads...as for the 70mm TB..LOOSE IT..its way to big..go back to stock..nothing you have can support the power range that it puts you in..

switch back and you will tahnks me..save it for when you get heads and a bigger cam

USMC302 · 10-21-2002, 06:11 PM

Who was this guy, what's his name? I might know him. A cobra intake is a good one to get as well as the heads, but ask the seller to have the heads magnofluxed before the purchase to ensure there are no crackes, the machine shop will check for warpage too as well as valve seals and everything else.

NotchJohnson · 10-21-2002, 06:30 PM

The intake seems like a good deal if its in good shape. You wont feel much, if any, difference just swapping out the intakes. You might consider picking up the intake from him and waiting to put it on until you figure out something to do about your heads. Possibly have your stock ones ported, or maybe pick up some gt40 irons if your on a budget and do everything at once. I also agree on dumping the 70mm tb, its too big. - John

bigred90gt · 10-22-2002, 01:10 PM

Will it pose a negative effect if I go back to my stock throttle body ad keep the 70mm egr spacer? I have no need to do this, It is just a few less things for me to change. What is the downside to having an oversized throttle body if it is not needed? Loss of hp/tq or both? The first time I went to the track, I had headers, .040 overbore, 3.73's, flows, and the CAI. I ran a 14.8@around 93mph, I think. This past time, after all that is listed, I only knocked off .2 sec and gained no mph, could this be part of the problem? Also, what effect woult it have if one of the sensors in my mass air looks fried? Would it even run if it was, or would it just not run to its full potential? Thanks for the replies. Also, the first time I went to the track, I was shifting at about 6200 prm, last time it was about 5500 rpm.

USMC302 - His name was Corey. Are you from this area?

LX XLR8R · 10-22-2002, 01:21 PM

you have a stock mass air meter?then there is no need for the TB now..you are putting air threw a 58/60mm hole then up to a 70mm..no point..you are loosing velocity..
now if you told me you hade a 72mm+ mass air and a 70mm TB then if anything at the track(with your combo)your et would of went down and your MPH would be the same or up 1 or 2

bigred90gt · 10-22-2002, 01:31 PM

Yes, the maf is stock. I plan on upgrading soon. I'm going to probably go with a 73mm or 76mm. I want to go to 24# injectors. I know that the 19# injectors are good to about 300 hp, but I figure I might as well do it now in anticipation of future mods.
Caymon

bigred90gt · 10-22-2002, 01:34 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the opening in the stock maf only about 40mm? It doesn't look like it is as big as the stock TB. Are the stock TB's 58mm?
Caymon

jonnyk · 10-22-2002, 10:12 PM

That's a good deal and an intake can't really go bad unless it was warped upon installation (very unlikely). Stock throttle body on mass air cars is 60mm. Stock mass air is 58mm I believe. I would leave the stock throttle body, but change the mass air. If you want to do injectors, it's overkill now, but with a head/cam swap later it will be necessary. Plan your mods!

USMC302 · 10-23-2002, 10:31 AM

From Orange, so you pretty much live in Baytown if you race mustangs in that area. Don't know a Corey though, good luck to you

bigred90gt · 10-23-2002, 11:00 AM

We actually get alot of people from all over the place come out on Friday and Sunday. I've talked to peopl from Beaumont to the other side of Houston. Thanks for the good luck.
Caymon

drudis · 10-23-2002, 11:40 AM

The $250 is a "good" price on a Cobra intake. GET IT!

Had one on my stock motored (ok, so I also added an S-trim later), but liked the difference even with stock EVERYTHING and still pulled 237rwhp (mind you STOCK). With S-trim it went 335rwhp.
Now I run the TFS intake/heads/cam for (undynoed) 440rwhp?

bigred90gt · 10-23-2002, 12:09 PM

I think I'm going to call the guy this weekend and set up asomething to get it. About how much of a power gain can I expect to see with the cobra intake and a set of gt40p heads off of and explorer? Thanksfor the replies.
Caymon

10-21-2002, 11:57 AM	#1
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Intake I met a guy last night at the track that said he had a used cobra intake and a used set of AFR heads. I don't know enough about heads to want to buy a used set from someone I don't know. But the intake is another story. Is there anything I need to look for to insure the quality of the intake? Would the cobra intake make enough of a difference in the power to be worth the $250 he is asking and the effort to put it on? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

10-21-2002, 12:19 PM	#2
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	Does he want $250 for the intake & heads? The heads go new for over $1000, the intake new is 400-500 $$$$, I'd definitely get them. What kind of setup are you running? __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

10-21-2002, 12:44 PM	#3
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	$250 is just for the intake. I didn't inquire about the heads, wereas I don't feel comfortable buying used ones from someone I don't know. The set-up I'm running is just what you see in my sig. I am just curious if the power gains from the intake are worth the time and money, and if there is anything I need to look for as far as wear and tear on the intake before buying it. Thanks, Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

10-21-2002, 01:46 PM	#4
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	grab it it is a good intake for what you have and it can expand well with a mild cam and heads...as for the 70mm TB..LOOSE IT..its way to big..go back to stock..nothing you have can support the power range that it puts you in.. switch back and you will tahnks me..save it for when you get heads and a bigger cam __________________ 95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once

10-21-2002, 06:11 PM	#5
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	Who was this guy, what's his name? I might know him. A cobra intake is a good one to get as well as the heads, but ask the seller to have the heads magnofluxed before the purchase to ensure there are no crackes, the machine shop will check for warpage too as well as valve seals and everything else. __________________

10-21-2002, 06:30 PM	#6
NotchJohnson Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 593	The intake seems like a good deal if its in good shape. You wont feel much, if any, difference just swapping out the intakes. You might consider picking up the intake from him and waiting to put it on until you figure out something to do about your heads. Possibly have your stock ones ported, or maybe pick up some gt40 irons if your on a budget and do everything at once. I also agree on dumping the 70mm tb, its too big. - John __________________ 89 notch-finally not stock!! ported gt40's, ported cobra intake, 65mm tb, 75mm maf, mac cai, lt's,prochamber, fms 1.6 rr, 125 shot.

10-22-2002, 01:10 PM	#7
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Will it pose a negative effect if I go back to my stock throttle body ad keep the 70mm egr spacer? I have no need to do this, It is just a few less things for me to change. What is the downside to having an oversized throttle body if it is not needed? Loss of hp/tq or both? The first time I went to the track, I had headers, .040 overbore, 3.73's, flows, and the CAI. I ran a 14.8@around 93mph, I think. This past time, after all that is listed, I only knocked off .2 sec and gained no mph, could this be part of the problem? Also, what effect woult it have if one of the sensors in my mass air looks fried? Would it even run if it was, or would it just not run to its full potential? Thanks for the replies. Also, the first time I went to the track, I was shifting at about 6200 prm, last time it was about 5500 rpm. USMC302 - His name was Corey. Are you from this area? __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

10-22-2002, 01:21 PM	#8
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	you have a stock mass air meter?then there is no need for the TB now..you are putting air threw a 58/60mm hole then up to a 70mm..no point..you are loosing velocity.. now if you told me you hade a 72mm+ mass air and a 70mm TB then if anything at the track(with your combo)your et would of went down and your MPH would be the same or up 1 or 2 __________________ 95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once

10-22-2002, 01:31 PM	#9
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Yes, the maf is stock. I plan on upgrading soon. I'm going to probably go with a 73mm or 76mm. I want to go to 24# injectors. I know that the 19# injectors are good to about 300 hp, but I figure I might as well do it now in anticipation of future mods. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

10-22-2002, 01:34 PM	#10
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the opening in the stock maf only about 40mm? It doesn't look like it is as big as the stock TB. Are the stock TB's 58mm? Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

10-22-2002, 10:12 PM	#11
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	That's a good deal and an intake can't really go bad unless it was warped upon installation (very unlikely). Stock throttle body on mass air cars is 60mm. Stock mass air is 58mm I believe. I would leave the stock throttle body, but change the mass air. If you want to do injectors, it's overkill now, but with a head/cam swap later it will be necessary. Plan your mods! __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

10-23-2002, 10:31 AM	#12
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	From Orange, so you pretty much live in Baytown if you race mustangs in that area. Don't know a Corey though, good luck to you __________________

10-23-2002, 11:00 AM	#13
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	We actually get alot of people from all over the place come out on Friday and Sunday. I've talked to peopl from Beaumont to the other side of Houston. Thanks for the good luck. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

10-23-2002, 11:40 AM	#14
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	The $250 is a "good" price on a Cobra intake. GET IT! Had one on my stock motored (ok, so I also added an S-trim later), but liked the difference even with stock EVERYTHING and still pulled 237rwhp (mind you STOCK). With S-trim it went 335rwhp. Now I run the TFS intake/heads/cam for (undynoed) 440rwhp? __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

10-23-2002, 12:09 PM	#15
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	I think I'm going to call the guy this weekend and set up asomething to get it. About how much of a power gain can I expect to see with the cobra intake and a set of gt40p heads off of and explorer? Thanksfor the replies. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

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