the unending tire debate

86LX5liter · 04-08-2001, 05:45 PM

ok guys. I am looking for tires. I need a good daily driver street tire, that is good in the rain, and the best performance possible in the dry. I am not so much concerned with the best abrasction, like a
Nitto or Toyo, but in a tire that will last 30,000 or 40,000 and be good in all weather conditions. Here in NY the rain sucks, and the snow is a bear. We are getting out of snow season, so the snow traction isn't an issue. let me know what you guys run and how well they work for you.

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Warmed over 302,
Edelbrock Carb, MSD, Accel, t-5 w/ frpp flywheel & clutch, Hurst shifter, traction bars, ds safety loop, subframes, 3.08 posi, shorties, H, and Flows. Same setup w/ auto netted a 12.54 @ 110.90
in a 300 lbs heavier car.
Can't wait till Spring for E-town.
1981 GT

jimberg · 04-08-2001, 05:51 PM

I really like my Sumitomos. Check out tirerack.com. They really do well in the rain and are great on dry pavement. They're not so good on snow, though.

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

dinomite · 04-08-2001, 06:04 PM

You can get tires that will be ok for rain and dry, but finding one that works well in snow too is pretty much impossible. Snow is completely different. In dry, you want as much on the ground a posssible (slicks), in rain, you just need a little bit of area for the water to go to (regualar street tire). For snow, you want lots of big grooves, think about snow chains.

DemonGT · 04-08-2001, 07:06 PM

i need new tires also..i want something that will last and is good on the street...i want something thats ok in rain but a little better on dry...would the bf goodrich radial T/A be good?

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'91 GT,91K,T-5,air silencer removed,racing clutch(previous owner put in so dont know what kind),K&N air filter,Aiwa deck,power acoustic amp,2 12" pianeers,Mac long tubes,Cat-back,off road H,FMS 9mm wires

Future Mods:3.73's,Pro 5.0,Shifter knob,E303 cam,cobra intake,76mm MAF,70mm tb

Mad Horse · 04-08-2001, 09:15 PM

I have spent the last month looking for a good street tire that is good on dry and wet roads. After spending what seems like the past 2 weeks at www.tirerack.com I've decided to go with the Firestone Firehawk SZ 50 EP. I didn't order them from tirerack because my home town tire dealership had them for a little less. They should be on my car by thursday so I'll get back on and let you know what I think of them.

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88GT 5-speed
Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, K&N, 9mm plug wires, PS91 coil, Accel Cap/Rotor, 190lph Fuel pump, 16" Ponies.
"Nip it in the Bud"
My Webpage

04-08-2001, 10:11 PM

I love my BF Goodrich Comp T/A's. They've taken a beating on dry pavement, and keep coming back for more. Personally, I've never tried taking my car out in the snow, cause I think it'd be suicide.

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads;
BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit;
Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less;
rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

84_GT350 · 04-09-2001, 01:05 AM

I agree with Dinomite. Tgere are tires that will work good in rain and in dry weather, but forget about snow. I've got some Falkens that are great in dry weather and decent in the rain, but lick @ss in the snow.

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1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

StreetStang37 · 04-09-2001, 02:18 AM

I got some Dunlop SP5000's All Season Ultra-High Performance 245/50/16 ZRs and they seem to work great for me. Traction in the rain is good and in dry is great too, their side wall is just too soft, so the response isn't all there. People say they are scary when changing lanes but I have no trouble whatso ever. I think the Dunlop's are rated pretty good on tirerack.com, I don't remember. If your gonna drive in the snow eventually, then I'd suggest getting an All Season tire since you will drive through atleast two winters with them even if your not in snow season anymore.

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1993 Mustang GT - March Ram Air & Pullies, K&N, C&L 73mm MAF, Super Competition Hooker Headers, 2 1/2 in. mandrel bent cat back, High Flow H-Pipe, Pro 5.0 Shifter, 16* Timing Advance

rtz · 04-09-2001, 03:28 PM

Get some "dual tread compound" Futura's. They hook up and they are about the cheapest tire you can find for the money.
http://www.pepboys.com/tires/peptire...supersportgls/

91LXConv · 04-09-2001, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mad Horse:
I have spent the last month looking for a good street tire that is good on dry and wet roads. After spending what seems like the past 2 weeks at www.tirerack.com I've decided to go with the Firestone Firehawk SZ 50 EP. I didn't order them from tirerack because my home town tire dealership had them for a little less. They should be on my car by thursday so I'll get back on and let you know what I think of them.

Good tire choice man! I've had the SZ 50 EP tires on my 91 for about 6 months now. Best tires I've had yet. You can really throw these things around a corner. Excellent wet traction too.

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1991 LX 5.0 Convertible:
AOD w/ shift kit, Steeda 3-pc. chassis stiffening kit, 4-pt. AutoPower roll-bar, the K&N, MAC shorties and cat-backs, 3.73's.

lx mike · 04-09-2001, 04:01 PM

Another vote for the SZ-50's, i tried them on my last stang and when i am ready for tires thats what i will be putting on my 93-LX. they worked great in the dry road and pretty good in the wet weather and living in florida we do get a bit of rain here so i would recommend them to anyone that has to drive there stang in the rain.

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93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

86LX5liter · 04-10-2001, 09:39 AM

I do not intend to get tires that work on dry, wet and snow. I need a dry and wet compound right now, I use my work van whenever it snows. An AWD Astro Van. Thing is decent in the snow. So i just need a summer tire. What kind of coin are those Firestone's? and were they ever part of that recall?

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Warmed over 302,
Edelbrock Carb, MSD, Accel, t-5 w/ frpp flywheel & clutch, Hurst shifter, traction bars, ds safety loop, subframes, 3.08 posi, shorties, H, and Flows. Same setup w/ auto netted a 12.54 @ 110.90
in a 300 lbs heavier car.
Can't wait till Spring for E-town.
1981 GT

Mad Horse · 04-10-2001, 11:35 AM

No the Firehawk SZ 50 EP's were never a part of any recall. The recall was for SUV tires so you have nothing to worry about. The price I got on them was $145.00 each for 225/55/16. Hope this helps. Go to www.tirerack.com and take a look at them. They are rated the best tire in their category by customers.

Rocket 99GT · 04-12-2001, 12:52 PM

I go this tires in in December. They are great in the rain and snow, I do fine that they could do better in the dry but maybe I am the one that needs to change my driving style.
http://www.michelin-us.com/us/eng/ti...log/pxgtz4.htm

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99GT…
rear sway bar (adjustable)
rear lower control arm
traction bars,
tokiko struts illumina 5 position,
tokiko shocks,
caster camber plates
racing lower springs
3:73
strut tower brace
underdrive pulleys
Michelin “pilot XGT-Z4. NOW I WILL ADD POWER.

jimberg · 04-12-2001, 03:52 PM

Update on Sumitomos. Apparently TireRack doesn't carry them any more because of their partnership with Goodyear. I guess I'm gonna have to try something else.

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

Smokedawg · 04-12-2001, 04:00 PM

For the price and quality I would go with the Futuras from Pepboys. They hook great on my buddies Z28

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, A9P Computer, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley Fuel Regulator, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 79mm Mass Air Unit, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors

Mach 1 · 04-12-2001, 04:31 PM

Avoid Futuras like the plaque. I had one come apart on me, the tread separated from the steel belts. What a cheap piece of crap tire. It caused sheetmetal damage to my car.

The best tire for the money (cheap) is the BFG Radial TA.

04-08-2001, 05:45 PM	#1
86LX5liter Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NY Posts: 524	the unending tire debate ok guys. I am looking for tires. I need a good daily driver street tire, that is good in the rain, and the best performance possible in the dry. I am not so much concerned with the best abrasction, like a Nitto or Toyo, but in a tire that will last 30,000 or 40,000 and be good in all weather conditions. Here in NY the rain sucks, and the snow is a bear. We are getting out of snow season, so the snow traction isn't an issue. let me know what you guys run and how well they work for you. ------------------ Warmed over 302, Edelbrock Carb, MSD, Accel, t-5 w/ frpp flywheel & clutch, Hurst shifter, traction bars, ds safety loop, subframes, 3.08 posi, shorties, H, and Flows. Same setup w/ auto netted a 12.54 @ 110.90 in a 300 lbs heavier car. Can't wait till Spring for E-town. 1981 GT

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04-08-2001, 05:51 PM	#2
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	I really like my Sumitomos. Check out tirerack.com. They really do well in the rain and are great on dry pavement. They're not so good on snow, though. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

04-08-2001, 06:04 PM	#3
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	You can get tires that will be ok for rain and dry, but finding one that works well in snow too is pretty much impossible. Snow is completely different. In dry, you want as much on the ground a posssible (slicks), in rain, you just need a little bit of area for the water to go to (regualar street tire). For snow, you want lots of big grooves, think about snow chains.

04-08-2001, 07:06 PM	#4
DemonGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 879	i need new tires also..i want something that will last and is good on the street...i want something thats ok in rain but a little better on dry...would the bf goodrich radial T/A be good? ------------------ '91 GT,91K,T-5,air silencer removed,racing clutch(previous owner put in so dont know what kind),K&N air filter,Aiwa deck,power acoustic amp,2 12" pianeers,Mac long tubes,Cat-back,off road H,FMS 9mm wires Future Mods:3.73's,Pro 5.0,Shifter knob,E303 cam,cobra intake,76mm MAF,70mm tb

04-08-2001, 09:15 PM	#5
Mad Horse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Dayton, OH., United States Posts: 467	I have spent the last month looking for a good street tire that is good on dry and wet roads. After spending what seems like the past 2 weeks at www.tirerack.com I've decided to go with the Firestone Firehawk SZ 50 EP. I didn't order them from tirerack because my home town tire dealership had them for a little less. They should be on my car by thursday so I'll get back on and let you know what I think of them. ------------------ 88GT 5-speed Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, K&N, 9mm plug wires, PS91 coil, Accel Cap/Rotor, 190lph Fuel pump, 16" Ponies. "Nip it in the Bud" My Webpage

04-08-2001, 10:11 PM	#6
1mintlx Guest Posts: n/a	I love my BF Goodrich Comp T/A's. They've taken a beating on dry pavement, and keep coming back for more. Personally, I've never tried taking my car out in the snow, cause I think it'd be suicide. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

04-09-2001, 01:05 AM	#7
84_GT350 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Overland Park, KS, USA Posts: 1,631	I agree with Dinomite. Tgere are tires that will work good in rain and in dry weather, but forget about snow. I've got some Falkens that are great in dry weather and decent in the rain, but lick @ss in the snow. ------------------ 1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

04-09-2001, 02:18 AM	#8
StreetStang37 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Jose, California USA Posts: 275	I got some Dunlop SP5000's All Season Ultra-High Performance 245/50/16 ZRs and they seem to work great for me. Traction in the rain is good and in dry is great too, their side wall is just too soft, so the response isn't all there. People say they are scary when changing lanes but I have no trouble whatso ever. I think the Dunlop's are rated pretty good on tirerack.com, I don't remember. If your gonna drive in the snow eventually, then I'd suggest getting an All Season tire since you will drive through atleast two winters with them even if your not in snow season anymore. ------------------ 1993 Mustang GT - March Ram Air & Pullies, K&N, C&L 73mm MAF, Super Competition Hooker Headers, 2 1/2 in. mandrel bent cat back, High Flow H-Pipe, Pro 5.0 Shifter, 16* Timing Advance

04-09-2001, 03:28 PM	#9
rtz Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 180	Get some "dual tread compound" Futura's. They hook up and they are about the cheapest tire you can find for the money. http://www.pepboys.com/tires/peptire...supersportgls/

04-09-2001, 04:01 PM	#11
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	Another vote for the SZ-50's, i tried them on my last stang and when i am ready for tires thats what i will be putting on my 93-LX. they worked great in the dry road and pretty good in the wet weather and living in florida we do get a bit of rain here so i would recommend them to anyone that has to drive there stang in the rain. ------------------ 93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

04-10-2001, 09:39 AM	#12
86LX5liter Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NY Posts: 524	I do not intend to get tires that work on dry, wet and snow. I need a dry and wet compound right now, I use my work van whenever it snows. An AWD Astro Van. Thing is decent in the snow. So i just need a summer tire. What kind of coin are those Firestone's? and were they ever part of that recall? ------------------ Warmed over 302, Edelbrock Carb, MSD, Accel, t-5 w/ frpp flywheel & clutch, Hurst shifter, traction bars, ds safety loop, subframes, 3.08 posi, shorties, H, and Flows. Same setup w/ auto netted a 12.54 @ 110.90 in a 300 lbs heavier car. Can't wait till Spring for E-town. 1981 GT

04-10-2001, 11:35 AM	#13
Mad Horse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Dayton, OH., United States Posts: 467	No the Firehawk SZ 50 EP's were never a part of any recall. The recall was for SUV tires so you have nothing to worry about. The price I got on them was $145.00 each for 225/55/16. Hope this helps. Go to www.tirerack.com and take a look at them. They are rated the best tire in their category by customers.

04-12-2001, 12:52 PM	#14
Rocket 99GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: gaithersburg md, 20879 usa Posts: 120	I go this tires in in December. They are great in the rain and snow, I do fine that they could do better in the dry but maybe I am the one that needs to change my driving style. http://www.michelin-us.com/us/eng/ti...log/pxgtz4.htm ........................................ 99GT… rear sway bar (adjustable) rear lower control arm traction bars, tokiko struts illumina 5 position, tokiko shocks, caster camber plates racing lower springs 3:73 strut tower brace underdrive pulleys Michelin “pilot XGT-Z4. NOW I WILL ADD POWER.

04-12-2001, 03:52 PM	#15
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	Update on Sumitomos. Apparently TireRack doesn't carry them any more because of their partnership with Goodyear. I guess I'm gonna have to try something else. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

04-12-2001, 04:00 PM	#16
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	For the price and quality I would go with the Futuras from Pepboys. They hook great on my buddies Z28 ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, A9P Computer, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley Fuel Regulator, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 79mm Mass Air Unit, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors

04-12-2001, 04:31 PM	#17
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Avoid Futuras like the plaque. I had one come apart on me, the tread separated from the steel belts. What a cheap piece of crap tire. It caused sheetmetal damage to my car. The best tire for the money (cheap) is the BFG Radial TA.