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			 Where is the knock sensor located, is there even one at all?  Also can anyone tell me why you make more horsepower with 87 octane?  I tried to run my car with 87 on an 80* day (with cast iron heads and 14* of timing) and it didn't knock or ping (plugs were fine too), but it felt way slower.  I put 93 back in and it ran much better. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 There is no knock sensor,  sometimes you can't hear detonation but it is still there,  I was going to suggest that you might be a touch rich but if the plugs were fine then,  hmm.  I guess some scientific research is in order... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Cool I didn't think there was a knock sensor.  It is wierd that my car ran that poor on 87 octane.  I heard that running 87 octane is supposed to make more power.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I know one possibility is that my timing light could be inaccurate also. I set the timing on a friends car and another guy checked the timing and said it was 8* off. So I should look into that first. Thanks, Jason  | 
	
		
		
		
		
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
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			 Remember to pull the spout connector when setting base timing   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Yeah I know to do that, I just think that my timing light is on its way south.  Maybe it was dropped too many times. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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