ATTN: PWRWUD. I need your expertise. - Page 2

PKRWUD · 08-11-2002, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agent_4573
What do you mean there is an open in one of the wires?

An open in a wire means that somewhere along the circuit, the wire has become disconnected. This could be due to a wire getting cut or pinched into a joint, etc.

Agent_4573 · 08-11-2002, 01:55 AM

I guess it doesn't really matter if the wire is open or not, the reading came back to high. I'm a bit confuzed by this voltage thing though. I disconnected the 60 pin thing, then tested the wire harness for voltage, not the ecm itself. How doesn't testing the harness tell me if the ecm is bad?

PKRWUD · 08-11-2002, 02:10 AM

Because the problem is that the ECM is supposed to send a signal out for a certain self test, and yours didn't. So, either the ECM is not getting the signal it needs so as to send a signal, or it's bad.

In laymans terms, think of it this way:

Electricity is water. The battery is like a fire hydrant. Turn the key on, and a hose that goes to the ECM fills with water, and the ECM can now send out water where it needs to. During the KOEO test, I notice that one or more of the places that the ECM is supposed to spray with water are dry. That means either the ECM isn't getting the water, or it is getting it, but not sending it out. So, I disconnect the hose from the battery to the ECM, and check it to see if it's got water from the battery. It does. That means the ECM is getting it, but nolt giving it, which means it's bad. By determining that the ECM was getting sufficient voltage, we proved that there is a failure inside the ECM that is not permitting it to send the required voltage elsewhere.

Take care,
~Chris

Agent_4573 · 08-11-2002, 09:39 AM

O I C. Thanks a bunch for the help.

PKRWUD · 08-11-2002, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agent_4573
O I C. Thanks a bunch for the help.

Sure. I prefer Corona beer.

Take care,
~Chris

Agent_4573 · 08-11-2002, 09:16 PM

Well i do work at a liqour store as a second job, but i think they might get skunked during shipping from nj to ca.

PKRWUD · 08-11-2002, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agent_4573
Well i do work at a liqour store as a second job, but i think they might get skunked during shipping from nj to ca.

LOL. That's cool. BUT, I also love Budweiser promotional goodies. You know, the kinds of things they give to liquor stores....

Take care,
~Chris

08-11-2002, 01:55 AM	#22
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	I guess it doesn't really matter if the wire is open or not, the reading came back to high. I'm a bit confuzed by this voltage thing though. I disconnected the 60 pin thing, then tested the wire harness for voltage, not the ecm itself. How doesn't testing the harness tell me if the ecm is bad? __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

08-11-2002, 02:10 AM	#23
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Because the problem is that the ECM is supposed to send a signal out for a certain self test, and yours didn't. So, either the ECM is not getting the signal it needs so as to send a signal, or it's bad. In laymans terms, think of it this way: Electricity is water. The battery is like a fire hydrant. Turn the key on, and a hose that goes to the ECM fills with water, and the ECM can now send out water where it needs to. During the KOEO test, I notice that one or more of the places that the ECM is supposed to spray with water are dry. That means either the ECM isn't getting the water, or it is getting it, but not sending it out. So, I disconnect the hose from the battery to the ECM, and check it to see if it's got water from the battery. It does. That means the ECM is getting it, but nolt giving it, which means it's bad. By determining that the ECM was getting sufficient voltage, we proved that there is a failure inside the ECM that is not permitting it to send the required voltage elsewhere. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

08-11-2002, 09:39 AM	#24
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	O I C. Thanks a bunch for the help. __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

08-11-2002, 09:16 PM	#26
Agent_4573 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 375	Well i do work at a liqour store as a second job, but i think they might get skunked during shipping from nj to ca. __________________ '89 LX 5.0, off-road h pipe, flowmaster muffs, underdrive pulleys, rebuilt WC T-5, King Cobra Clutch, 65mm throttle body, Explorer Upper/GT40 lower, Lakewood Rear Lift Bars. 76mm C&L Mass air w/ inlet pipe, Twisted wedge heads w/ stage 2 port,polish, MAC equal length shorties, Billet AFPR, 255LPH fuel pump, fresh low end w/ 10.5:1 compression. If anyone ever wants to go to Raceway Park in Englishtown New Jersey, give me a shout. RICER HATERS CLUB MEMBER 87! www.ricehatersclub.com

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