MSD timing knob for NA motors..

NewAge 5.0 · 11-20-2002, 01:31 AM

not the boost refrence MSD knob the one for NA motor set ups.. I was thinking when I spray my car instead of poppin the hood & bustin out the timing light I would twist the knob.. my buddy has one on his EFI car and it works ok for him.. plus I could turn the knob back to start it too right.. what about Top End say pull timing out of the engine with a twist of the knob??

Just an Idea BTW my car is Carb'ed

Jeff Chambers · 11-20-2002, 07:39 AM

Instead of using the rheostat, just install a timing retard module from MSD. It has a start retard function built in, plus three progressive timing retard settings (uses the chips). When I activate my converter lockup in third gear, I have it pull some timing from the motor. Stick guys could easily put a little microswitch on the shifter so when they hit fourth gear it does the same thing. Pulling a few degrees of timing at the big end does help.

cyberstang5.0 · 11-20-2002, 07:58 AM

I have this installed in addition to my MSD ignition box. There is four stages you can preset and activate with the flip of a switch. You can also set the prestart setting. I think this is better because when your racing, you don't have time to trun a knob to the exact line you desire. With this, all you do it hit a switch and you get the timing you want always. I set my distrubitor at 18deg and retart it down from there. This way, I don't have to use a timing light all the time just to tune it.

Part number : 8975

88workcar · 11-20-2002, 08:52 PM

I like the reostat, I have had mine for 5 years. And for every reason you think. Also it helps straiten the idle from time to time.

NewAge 5.0 · 11-21-2002, 01:27 AM

how much does it help to Pull timing out at the Big end of the track.. more mph i am sure but what about ET? i have a 5 speed so your saying when I hit 4th it will pull timing out, hmm how much do you know to pull back?

Jeff Chambers · 11-21-2002, 09:14 AM

Trial and error. The amount that I pull out in lockup varies from 0 to 4 degrees, depending on track and weather conditions. Its an old racer's trick, but it works. On my combination I'd say its worth about 1.5mph and .02-.03 in the quarter.

11-20-2002, 01:31 AM	#1
NewAge 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Sanford NC USA Posts: 155	MSD timing knob for NA motors.. not the boost refrence MSD knob the one for NA motor set ups.. I was thinking when I spray my car instead of poppin the hood & bustin out the timing light I would twist the knob.. my buddy has one on his EFI car and it works ok for him.. plus I could turn the knob back to start it too right.. what about Top End say pull timing out of the engine with a twist of the knob?? Just an Idea BTW my car is Carb'ed __________________ 88 Hatch 10.60's @ 130 89 Hatch Not as fast but holds its own

11-20-2002, 07:39 AM	#2
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	Instead of using the rheostat, just install a timing retard module from MSD. It has a start retard function built in, plus three progressive timing retard settings (uses the chips). When I activate my converter lockup in third gear, I have it pull some timing from the motor. Stick guys could easily put a little microswitch on the shifter so when they hit fourth gear it does the same thing. Pulling a few degrees of timing at the big end does help. __________________ Jeff Chambers 1990 Mustang GT 10.032 Seconds / 137.5 MPH 14-time Street Warrior World Record Setter CRT Performance 2001 Tropic Green Mustang GT - 12.181 / 113.2 MPH 2002 Ford F-250 Crew Cab 7.3l Power Stroke - 17.41@77.2 "There's nothing boring about a small block automatic shifting gears at 9400 rpm!"

11-20-2002, 08:52 PM	#4
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	I like the reostat, I have had mine for 5 years. And for every reason you think. Also it helps straiten the idle from time to time. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

11-21-2002, 01:27 AM	#5
NewAge 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Sanford NC USA Posts: 155	how much does it help to Pull timing out at the Big end of the track.. more mph i am sure but what about ET? i have a 5 speed so your saying when I hit 4th it will pull timing out, hmm how much do you know to pull back? __________________ 88 Hatch 10.60's @ 130 89 Hatch Not as fast but holds its own

11-21-2002, 09:14 AM	#6
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	Trial and error. The amount that I pull out in lockup varies from 0 to 4 degrees, depending on track and weather conditions. Its an old racer's trick, but it works. On my combination I'd say its worth about 1.5mph and .02-.03 in the quarter. __________________ Jeff Chambers 1990 Mustang GT 10.032 Seconds / 137.5 MPH 14-time Street Warrior World Record Setter CRT Performance 2001 Tropic Green Mustang GT - 12.181 / 113.2 MPH 2002 Ford F-250 Crew Cab 7.3l Power Stroke - 17.41@77.2 "There's nothing boring about a small block automatic shifting gears at 9400 rpm!"

11-20-2002, 07:58 AM	#3
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	I have this installed in addition to my MSD ignition box. There is four stages you can preset and activate with the flip of a switch. You can also set the prestart setting. I think this is better because when your racing, you don't have time to trun a knob to the exact line you desire. With this, all you do it hit a switch and you get the timing you want always. I set my distrubitor at 18deg and retart it down from there. This way, I don't have to use a timing light all the time just to tune it. Part number : 8975

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