starter stay engaged 3 secs too long

blk88lx · 04-21-2003, 06:05 PM

I just finished a 351 swap in my 93 and now my starter stay engaged 3 seconds too long. It was fine before. It has a new selonoid but the same 93 stock starter that was fine w/the 93 stock engine.

Kevin Price · 04-22-2003, 09:09 AM

Check how you have your wiring to the starter relay (in the engine bay).

You should have a larger cable that runs directly to the starter. You shouls have a separate wire that runs to the starter solenoid, directly above the starter. The smaller wire MUST BE ON THE OPPOSITE POST AS THE BATTERY CABLE/CABLE TO STARTER.

If they are both on the same post the starter will not disengage correctly, much like what you are describing. Check that first, I bet that is your problem. Good luck!

drudis · 04-22-2003, 10:08 PM

1989 to 1993 conversion...

blk88lx · 04-23-2003, 10:12 PM

I will check that wire. Thanks!

blk88lx · 04-30-2003, 06:35 PM

Starter still hangs 3 secs after start. My selonoid is set up like this:

seloniod post closest to battery - big and little starter wire.
seloniod post closest to firewall - everything else!

Am I wrong??

Kevin Price · 04-30-2003, 07:53 PM

YES

The big starter wire and small starter wire DO NOT go on the same post.

Test which post is always "hot", or connected to the battery. THe big starter wire goes to this post. THe small starter wire goes to the big post opposite of the battery/big starter wire post.

From experience this will fix your problem. Let us know how it goes and good luck!

blk88lx · 04-30-2003, 08:36 PM

That means everything goes on the battery post except the little starter wire?

drudis · 04-30-2003, 10:00 PM

Basically yes, EVERYTHING goes on the "input" side of the relay. For me, it was the further back side (toward driver), versus the "output" (activated) side which is closer to the headlights. On the 'output" side, you ONLY have the LITTLE WIRE.

Again, EVERYTHING (ALL THE WIRES) goes on the "R" ("R"elay) side of the solenoid, and the little wire ONLY goes on the "y" (rela"Y") side, as in the diagram.

blk88lx · 04-30-2003, 10:13 PM

OK, I'll switch'm out tomorrow.

Thanks!

blk88lx · 05-02-2003, 08:37 PM

Fixed!! works great. Thanks!

04-21-2003, 06:05 PM	#1
blk88lx Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fort Leonard Wood, MO Posts: 179	starter stay engaged 3 secs too long I just finished a 351 swap in my 93 and now my starter stay engaged 3 seconds too long. It was fine before. It has a new selonoid but the same 93 stock starter that was fine w/the 93 stock engine. __________________ 93 GT, 5.8 EFI usual bolt ons, 3.55's, subs, hurst, K+N 78 F100 Short bed, 5.8, dual pipes 4 bbl 03 Sable

04-22-2003, 09:09 AM	#2
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	Check how you have your wiring to the starter relay (in the engine bay). You should have a larger cable that runs directly to the starter. You shouls have a separate wire that runs to the starter solenoid, directly above the starter. The smaller wire MUST BE ON THE OPPOSITE POST AS THE BATTERY CABLE/CABLE TO STARTER. If they are both on the same post the starter will not disengage correctly, much like what you are describing. Check that first, I bet that is your problem. Good luck! __________________ 2001 Mustang "Mach 1" SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide. Best 1/4 ET 9.17 (ALL MOTOR) Best 1/4 MPH 147 My Car

04-22-2003, 10:08 PM	#3
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	1989 to 1993 conversion... __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-23-2003, 10:12 PM	#4
blk88lx Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fort Leonard Wood, MO Posts: 179	I will check that wire. Thanks! __________________ 93 GT, 5.8 EFI usual bolt ons, 3.55's, subs, hurst, K+N 78 F100 Short bed, 5.8, dual pipes 4 bbl 03 Sable

04-30-2003, 06:35 PM	#5
blk88lx Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fort Leonard Wood, MO Posts: 179	still hangin! Starter still hangs 3 secs after start. My selonoid is set up like this: seloniod post closest to battery - big and little starter wire. seloniod post closest to firewall - everything else! Am I wrong?? __________________ 93 GT, 5.8 EFI usual bolt ons, 3.55's, subs, hurst, K+N 78 F100 Short bed, 5.8, dual pipes 4 bbl 03 Sable

04-30-2003, 07:53 PM	#6
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	YES The big starter wire and small starter wire DO NOT go on the same post. Test which post is always "hot", or connected to the battery. THe big starter wire goes to this post. THe small starter wire goes to the big post opposite of the battery/big starter wire post. From experience this will fix your problem. Let us know how it goes and good luck! __________________ 2001 Mustang "Mach 1" SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide. Best 1/4 ET 9.17 (ALL MOTOR) Best 1/4 MPH 147 My Car

04-30-2003, 08:36 PM	#7
blk88lx Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fort Leonard Wood, MO Posts: 179	That means everything goes on the battery post except the little starter wire? __________________ 93 GT, 5.8 EFI usual bolt ons, 3.55's, subs, hurst, K+N 78 F100 Short bed, 5.8, dual pipes 4 bbl 03 Sable

04-30-2003, 10:00 PM	#8
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	Basically yes, EVERYTHING goes on the "input" side of the relay. For me, it was the further back side (toward driver), versus the "output" (activated) side which is closer to the headlights. On the 'output" side, you ONLY have the LITTLE WIRE. Again, EVERYTHING (ALL THE WIRES) goes on the "R" ("R"elay) side of the solenoid, and the little wire ONLY goes on the "y" (rela"Y") side, as in the diagram. __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-30-2003, 10:13 PM	#9
blk88lx Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fort Leonard Wood, MO Posts: 179	OK, I'll switch'm out tomorrow. Thanks! __________________ 93 GT, 5.8 EFI usual bolt ons, 3.55's, subs, hurst, K+N 78 F100 Short bed, 5.8, dual pipes 4 bbl 03 Sable

05-02-2003, 08:37 PM	#10
blk88lx Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fort Leonard Wood, MO Posts: 179	Fixed!! works great. Thanks! __________________ 93 GT, 5.8 EFI usual bolt ons, 3.55's, subs, hurst, K+N 78 F100 Short bed, 5.8, dual pipes 4 bbl 03 Sable

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