need 12's.......help

1_fine_89 · 05-08-2003, 01:15 PM

I have a 1989 convertable 5 spd with pullies, shorties, x-pipe, cold air intake, 4 wheel disk, 17inch 99 cobra wheels, 373 gears, cobra clutch kenny brown double cross subframe connectors. I have about 4 thousand to spend....canadian. My question is what will i need to but motor wise to get me there? What suspension parts are needed? and is my frame strong enough to do so without bending the **** out of it. My car is has 70 000k's on it and is straight as an arrow, and i would like to keep it that way.... please help me.

WADS56 · 05-08-2003, 01:35 PM

heads, intake, and a matching cam= have fun!

1_fine_89 · 05-08-2003, 02:33 PM

any suggestions on what kink of heads intake and cam? performer rpm? Systemmax II? gt-40? I would like to keep it emissions legal. Thanx for the imput

86GT · 05-08-2003, 03:47 PM

The old school way is TFS TW heads, E-303 cam and an Edelbrock intake. Nowadays, AFR 165s or 185s, Custom cam and Holley Systemax 2 or TFS intake.

tmoss · 05-09-2003, 07:44 AM

With that heavy azz vert your gonna need to make over 300 RWHP to get there. AFR 165s to keep good velocity along with a Cobra with a ported lower or Edelbrock RPM and a custom cam from a good cam specifier.

Ackbar00 · 05-09-2003, 11:17 AM

Bagh, do it the easy way, Get a Novi 1000 for like 1500$

Stang_Crazy · 05-09-2003, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ackbar00
Bagh, do it the easy way, Get a Novi 1000 for like 1500$

AMEN brother!

HiFlow5 0 · 05-10-2003, 07:10 AM

Just keep in mind that if your racing at a track they will require you to have a roll bar for a vert if your in the 12's.

Ackbar00 · 05-10-2003, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by HiFlow5 0
Just keep in mind that if your racing at a track they will require you to have a roll bar for a vert if your in the 12's.

Actually, I belive it is 13.99 or quicker

86GT · 05-10-2003, 08:59 AM

Yup, 13.99 or quicker for convertibles.

Nitrous is a cheap alternative too!

HiFlow5 0 · 05-10-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Ackbar00
Actually, I belive it is 13.99 or quicker

Yeah it is. He said he wanted to run 12's though, so I just wanted to make sure he knew about needing a roll bar..

1_fine_89 · 05-10-2003, 11:26 PM

ok so if i was to go with a blower, what other parts would i need to make a good complete setup? What would be a good choice for suspension? are southsides a good choice ? can i get into the 12'S on street tires? I would like to stay away from slicks if possible, due to the great amount of stress put on the frame. Please keep in mind that I would like to keep this car as streetable as possible. Thanx

1_fine_89 · 05-10-2003, 11:30 PM

roll bar i don't need no stinkin roll bar. Just kidding, I hate the look of a 5 point in a vert, But i like the shape of a styling bar. Can u get a functional styling bar? correct me if im wrong but do u need a helmet in a vert?

ultraflo · 05-11-2003, 12:49 AM

13.99 or quicker.... yeah, you'll need a helmet (and a rollbar/cage).

My approach: Nitrous Express single nozzle system jetted @ 150hp, an adj. fuel pressure reg. (40psi), fuel and nitrous pressure gauge(s), bottle heater (1000psi), one heat range colder plugs gapped at .035" (Autolite 24's), 93 octane pump gas, 12-14 degrees timing, an MSD window switch, and a pair of M/T ET Streets. Just my opinion...

Motor wise? .... like mentioned: heads, intake, cam.

Suspension wise? .... depends entirely on the primary function of the car: if it's primarily a street car: upper/lower control arms, aftermarket K-member and A-arms, adj. coil over struts, adj. shocks, etc.

05-08-2003, 01:15 PM	#1
1_fine_89 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 25	need 12's.......help I have a 1989 convertable 5 spd with pullies, shorties, x-pipe, cold air intake, 4 wheel disk, 17inch 99 cobra wheels, 373 gears, cobra clutch kenny brown double cross subframe connectors. I have about 4 thousand to spend....canadian. My question is what will i need to but motor wise to get me there? What suspension parts are needed? and is my frame strong enough to do so without bending the **** out of it. My car is has 70 000k's on it and is straight as an arrow, and i would like to keep it that way.... please help me. Last edited by 1_fine_89; 05-08-2003 at 01:28 PM..

05-08-2003, 01:35 PM	#2
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	heads, intake, and a matching cam= have fun! __________________ 79 Hatch: NA 347, Stage 2 Canfield Heads, Victor JR. Intake, Blueprinted Holley 750 HP, Solid Roller Cam, Shooting for 10's on motor 93 LX: Tremec, dual friction clutch, fms flywheel, Hedman shorties, O/R H-pipe Ricer hater's club member #49

05-08-2003, 03:47 PM	#4
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	The old school way is TFS TW heads, E-303 cam and an Edelbrock intake. Nowadays, AFR 165s or 185s, Custom cam and Holley Systemax 2 or TFS intake. __________________ 2002 Windsor Weekend Q16 Qualifier

05-09-2003, 07:44 AM	#5
tmoss Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 634	With that heavy azz vert your gonna need to make over 300 RWHP to get there. AFR 165s to keep good velocity along with a Cobra with a ported lower or Edelbrock RPM and a custom cam from a good cam specifier. __________________ Tom (Torque) Moss 88Gt 5spd Vert, FLowmaster Catbacks, stock cam advanced 4° @ 108.5° ICL, NMRA prepped GT40P heads 1.85/1.55 valves and 1.7 rockers, MAC P headers Jet-Hot coated, 97 Exlporer intake (ported lower), TB and injectors. 277RWHP/330RWTQ (SAE). http://www.fastlanecars.com/

05-09-2003, 11:17 AM	#6
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	Bagh, do it the easy way, Get a Novi 1000 for like 1500$ __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

05-08-2003, 02:33 PM	#3
1_fine_89 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 25	any suggestions on what kink of heads intake and cam? performer rpm? Systemmax II? gt-40? I would like to keep it emissions legal. Thanx for the imput

05-10-2003, 07:10 AM	#8
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	Just keep in mind that if your racing at a track they will require you to have a roll bar for a vert if your in the 12's. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

05-10-2003, 08:59 AM	#10
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	Yup, 13.99 or quicker for convertibles. Nitrous is a cheap alternative too! __________________ 2002 Windsor Weekend Q16 Qualifier

05-10-2003, 11:26 PM	#12
1_fine_89 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 25	ok so if i was to go with a blower, what other parts would i need to make a good complete setup? What would be a good choice for suspension? are southsides a good choice ? can i get into the 12'S on street tires? I would like to stay away from slicks if possible, due to the great amount of stress put on the frame. Please keep in mind that I would like to keep this car as streetable as possible. Thanx

05-10-2003, 11:30 PM	#13
1_fine_89 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 25	roll bar i don't need no stinkin roll bar. Just kidding, I hate the look of a 5 point in a vert, But i like the shape of a styling bar. Can u get a functional styling bar? correct me if im wrong but do u need a helmet in a vert?

05-11-2003, 12:49 AM	#14
ultraflo NX dealer-man Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Peoria, Illinois Posts: 977	13.99 or quicker.... yeah, you'll need a helmet (and a rollbar/cage). My approach: Nitrous Express single nozzle system jetted @ 150hp, an adj. fuel pressure reg. (40psi), fuel and nitrous pressure gauge(s), bottle heater (1000psi), one heat range colder plugs gapped at .035" (Autolite 24's), 93 octane pump gas, 12-14 degrees timing, an MSD window switch, and a pair of M/T ET Streets. Just my opinion... Motor wise? .... like mentioned: heads, intake, cam. Suspension wise? .... depends entirely on the primary function of the car: if it's primarily a street car: upper/lower control arms, aftermarket K-member and A-arms, adj. coil over struts, adj. shocks, etc. __________________ RLS Racing! 93 LX 9.20 @ 147mph 03 Mach 1 12.39 @ 116mph