Suspension!!!!! HELP

drtbiker · 05-18-2003, 07:38 PM

OK, I need some help with traction. No system in the back now i cant get traction worth crap! I have upper and lower control arms. What springs and shocks should i get i want names. I really need help with this. I have the worst issues with suspension i know nothing about it. I was running 2.1-2.2 60 fts. It is really agravating me because i know the car can hit 12's i have a good mile an hour i just cant seem to get any traction

thanks
sorry about the length

5ohlover · 05-18-2003, 09:46 PM

well u saw my suspension setup. i have KYB shocks/struts and FMS "B" springs.

drtbiker · 05-18-2003, 10:08 PM

hey whats up yeah, it was a little stiff though i want a little more travel to....

5ohlover · 05-18-2003, 10:42 PM

yea it is a little too stiff. but oh well what can i do. hehe

drtbiker · 05-21-2003, 10:44 PM

anyone come on now share the knowledge of suspension or does no one know anything about suspension

later

FritzDaKat · 05-22-2003, 12:20 AM

Ummm... Didnt I catch you saying your trac-loc was fubar in another post? If so I'd really suggest fixing that before doing all the work on setting your rear up for runing well without that. Otherwise you may find yourself back at it when you do finaly fix the problem with the trac-loc.

drtbiker · 05-22-2003, 09:20 AM

na not me, i could hook when i had the system in the back... but now i have blown shocks... and they need to be fixed but i dont know what shocks or springs to buy....

raini

FritzDaKat · 05-23-2003, 09:52 PM

Well, I had a book on setting up chassie / suspension once (funny how things dissapear when you loan them to people) and from what I recall setting the suspension properly as opposed to just slipping in some of the shelf gear on the advice of a friend involves weighing the car at all 4 wheels simultaneously and doing "a little math" to determine the proper proportional stiffness of the springs.

Heres one book from Amazon on the topic (They should have it at Borders books) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books Mabey that's what your looking for

drtbiker · 05-25-2003, 04:16 PM

anyone else....... come on i need some shocks and springs.. who has nice set ups??? I need somthing to work with

HiFlow5 0 · 05-26-2003, 02:12 PM

I have Lakewood 70/30 struts, and 50/50 shocks. They work a lot better then the stock set up for launching. I can feel the front end pop up more on hard launches, the only bad thing is it's kind of a rough ride on the street, and the car floats a little on the highway at higer speeds. But they do what they were designed to do. Tokico makes a 5 way adjustable shock and strut, that are suppose to be pretty good, I'm actually thinking about these for my project car.

Try removing your front sway bar when you run at the track, this will help transfer weight better to the rear. Also air down the rear tires some, to help spread out the surface area of the tire.

drtbiker · 05-26-2003, 04:56 PM

hmmm. i was running 10lbs of air on nitto's at the track. What are ur 60fts?

later and thanks for responding

86GT · 05-27-2003, 09:23 AM

Lakewood 70/30s and 50/50's here, with the Eibach Drag launch springs. I have Lakewood Traction Action lower control arms, and MAC adjustable uppers. I haven't had a chance to test it, but that'll occur in a week or so when the motor is back in.

drtbiker · 05-28-2003, 12:22 AM

i am really looking into the Tokico Drag Struts and shocks not the price is a littles steap but if they do what everyone claims they do i think it would be a good investment

later

05-18-2003, 07:38 PM	#1
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	Suspension!!!!! HELP OK, I need some help with traction. No system in the back now i cant get traction worth crap! I have upper and lower control arms. What springs and shocks should i get i want names. I really need help with this. I have the worst issues with suspension i know nothing about it. I was running 2.1-2.2 60 fts. It is really agravating me because i know the car can hit 12's i have a good mile an hour i just cant seem to get any traction thanks sorry about the length __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-18-2003, 09:46 PM	#2
5ohlover Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Glencoe, IL Posts: 3	well u saw my suspension setup. i have KYB shocks/struts and FMS "B" springs. __________________ 91GT mods: gears and exhaust

05-18-2003, 10:08 PM	#3
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	hey whats up yeah, it was a little stiff though i want a little more travel to.... __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-18-2003, 10:42 PM	#4
5ohlover Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Glencoe, IL Posts: 3	yea it is a little too stiff. but oh well what can i do. hehe __________________ 91GT mods: gears and exhaust

05-21-2003, 10:44 PM	#5
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	anyone come on now share the knowledge of suspension or does no one know anything about suspension later __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-22-2003, 12:20 AM	#6
FritzDaKat Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Franklin Park IL Posts: 57	Ummm... Didnt I catch you saying your trac-loc was fubar in another post? If so I'd really suggest fixing that before doing all the work on setting your rear up for runing well without that. Otherwise you may find yourself back at it when you do finaly fix the problem with the trac-loc.

05-22-2003, 09:20 AM	#7
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	na not me, i could hook when i had the system in the back... but now i have blown shocks... and they need to be fixed but i dont know what shocks or springs to buy.... raini __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-23-2003, 09:52 PM	#8
FritzDaKat Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Franklin Park IL Posts: 57	Well, I had a book on setting up chassie / suspension once (funny how things dissapear when you loan them to people) and from what I recall setting the suspension properly as opposed to just slipping in some of the shelf gear on the advice of a friend involves weighing the car at all 4 wheels simultaneously and doing "a little math" to determine the proper proportional stiffness of the springs. Heres one book from Amazon on the topic (They should have it at Borders books) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books Mabey that's what your looking for

05-25-2003, 04:16 PM	#9
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	anyone else....... come on i need some shocks and springs.. who has nice set ups??? I need somthing to work with __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-26-2003, 02:12 PM	#10
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	I have Lakewood 70/30 struts, and 50/50 shocks. They work a lot better then the stock set up for launching. I can feel the front end pop up more on hard launches, the only bad thing is it's kind of a rough ride on the street, and the car floats a little on the highway at higer speeds. But they do what they were designed to do. Tokico makes a 5 way adjustable shock and strut, that are suppose to be pretty good, I'm actually thinking about these for my project car. Try removing your front sway bar when you run at the track, this will help transfer weight better to the rear. Also air down the rear tires some, to help spread out the surface area of the tire. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

05-26-2003, 04:56 PM	#11
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	hmmm. i was running 10lbs of air on nitto's at the track. What are ur 60fts? later and thanks for responding __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

05-27-2003, 09:23 AM	#12
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	Lakewood 70/30s and 50/50's here, with the Eibach Drag launch springs. I have Lakewood Traction Action lower control arms, and MAC adjustable uppers. I haven't had a chance to test it, but that'll occur in a week or so when the motor is back in. __________________ 2002 Windsor Weekend Q16 Qualifier

05-28-2003, 12:22 AM	#13
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	i am really looking into the Tokico Drag Struts and shocks not the price is a littles steap but if they do what everyone claims they do i think it would be a good investment later __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

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