new motor option

bailey_57 · 05-28-2006, 09:29 AM

i had a 302 offered to me for what i consider a fair price. brand new motorsport block, i believe its a stock rotating assembly, x cam, and ported out roush heads, i think they are the windsor jrs. anyway my concern is the cylinder heads. has anyone out there run them and been happy with them. i really want to buy this motor, but the heads are a concern. i also am questioning how much improvement this will really be over my stock 302 currently in the car with ported e7's, and E cam. thanks guys.

Coupe50h · 05-28-2006, 12:49 PM

imo windsor jr's are much better than e7's or ported e7's/gt40's

If that is indeed a stock rotating assembly, I hope they cut the pistons to clear that xcam lift, if it was built as a longblock im sure everything clears, but i would specify that before buying it.

I would stick with the e-cam anyways, for drivability purposes, I run the ecam and never have drivability problems, with the x-cam you'll just lose lowend power, unless this block is high compression, id stick with the e-cam and windsor jr's.... iron?

rwhite65 · 05-28-2006, 03:36 PM

I agree and believe that the lower end has to not be totally "stock" to clear that x-cam. The Windsor head is going to be better then the ported e7's. If you can get it for a good price, would be worth it as an upgrade.
Ryan

bailey_57 · 05-29-2006, 01:18 PM

i have the guy down to $2000 for the motor, it comes as a longblock, never run. needs accessories and intake, and can be bolted in. is it worth it? i really want AFR 165's, but this seems more responsible. any suggestions, i've asked all my friends with mixed review. also i'll be selling the motor currently in my car, of course sans edelbrock intake. any suggestions on asking price for that, and would i sell it easier if i left it in the car until it was sold. i'm really fighting myself with this one.

82 GT · 06-11-2006, 11:02 PM

I would leave your old motor in the car until you sell it. That way, any potential buyer will be able to see/hear it first.
I have a friend that's running mid 11's on his 351w with Windsor Jr. heads.
You could always sell them to offset the price of the AFR heads.
If I had the money now, I would offer to buy the Jr. heads right now!

~The Jester~ · 06-12-2006, 08:23 AM

I had a set of those heads on my Stang when I first got it, and THEY ROCK!!!! IMHO for an iron head, you can't go wrong with those! I'd take a set of those over 3 sets of ported/polished E7's any day of the week.

If those heads are your only concern about buying that motor, well then in my mind you have NO concern about buying that motor! You will NOT be un-happy with them, trust me.

rwhite65 · 06-12-2006, 08:27 AM

I want those heads now

Ryan

05-28-2006, 09:29 AM	#1
bailey_57 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Berwick,Pa Posts: 127	new motor option i had a 302 offered to me for what i consider a fair price. brand new motorsport block, i believe its a stock rotating assembly, x cam, and ported out roush heads, i think they are the windsor jrs. anyway my concern is the cylinder heads. has anyone out there run them and been happy with them. i really want to buy this motor, but the heads are a concern. i also am questioning how much improvement this will really be over my stock 302 currently in the car with ported e7's, and E cam. thanks guys. __________________ '89 GT hatch back performer rpm intake, performer rpm cylinder heads, fms e-303 cam, kirban adj fp regulator, holley 65mm tb, harland sharp 1.6 roller rockers, alum driveshaft, 3.73 gears (283 rwhp, 303 rwtq new numbers with new heads)

05-28-2006, 12:49 PM	#2
Coupe50h Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 957	Re: new motor option imo windsor jr's are much better than e7's or ported e7's/gt40's If that is indeed a stock rotating assembly, I hope they cut the pistons to clear that xcam lift, if it was built as a longblock im sure everything clears, but i would specify that before buying it. I would stick with the e-cam anyways, for drivability purposes, I run the ecam and never have drivability problems, with the x-cam you'll just lose lowend power, unless this block is high compression, id stick with the e-cam and windsor jr's.... iron? __________________ X-Texas highway patrol ssp 1990 coupe - exploder Gt-40 iron heads, Explorer intake, 19 lber's. E-cam. crane 1.7 rollers. 190fp. 75mm maf. 65mm tb, tubular subframe connectors, mac cai, Asp crank pulley, T-5, king cobra clutch, flowtech 1-5/8 unequals, mac X-pipe Frpp driveshaft, lakewood Lca's. race weight 3,160 12.69 @ 107.35, 1.71 60' 26x8.5 drag's 3.90 gear 13.20 @ 106.91 - 235/60/15 firestones 2.3 60' 3.27 gear

05-28-2006, 03:36 PM	#3
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: new motor option I agree and believe that the lower end has to not be totally "stock" to clear that x-cam. The Windsor head is going to be better then the ported e7's. If you can get it for a good price, would be worth it as an upgrade. Ryan __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

05-29-2006, 01:18 PM	#4
bailey_57 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Berwick,Pa Posts: 127	Re: new motor option i have the guy down to $2000 for the motor, it comes as a longblock, never run. needs accessories and intake, and can be bolted in. is it worth it? i really want AFR 165's, but this seems more responsible. any suggestions, i've asked all my friends with mixed review. also i'll be selling the motor currently in my car, of course sans edelbrock intake. any suggestions on asking price for that, and would i sell it easier if i left it in the car until it was sold. i'm really fighting myself with this one. __________________ '89 GT hatch back performer rpm intake, performer rpm cylinder heads, fms e-303 cam, kirban adj fp regulator, holley 65mm tb, harland sharp 1.6 roller rockers, alum driveshaft, 3.73 gears (283 rwhp, 303 rwtq new numbers with new heads)

06-11-2006, 11:02 PM	#5
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	Re: new motor option I would leave your old motor in the car until you sell it. That way, any potential buyer will be able to see/hear it first. I have a friend that's running mid 11's on his 351w with Windsor Jr. heads. You could always sell them to offset the price of the AFR heads. If I had the money now, I would offer to buy the Jr. heads right now! __________________ '82 GT 351W (.060)Comp Cams 274* Extreme Energy cam, ported & polished heads w/ 1.94/1.60 valves 10.3:1 flat top pistons,stealth intake, Mallory dizzy,Holley 750dp carb, BBK shorties,Flowmaster exhaust,C-4 with 3700 stall converter, B&M pro shifter,8.8 rear, 4:10's, subframes, electric fan, powermaster alternator, 4 core radiator.

06-12-2006, 08:23 AM	#6
~The Jester~ Rat Killer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cold ass Ohio Posts: 1,143	Re: new motor option I had a set of those heads on my Stang when I first got it, and THEY ROCK!!!! IMHO for an iron head, you can't go wrong with those! I'd take a set of those over 3 sets of ported/polished E7's any day of the week. If those heads are your only concern about buying that motor, well then in my mind you have NO concern about buying that motor! You will NOT be un-happy with them, trust me. __________________ d-Con Racing "Nothing fancy, just 347 inches of RAT POISON!" MICE need not apply.....

06-12-2006, 08:27 AM	#7
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	Re: new motor option I want those heads now Ryan __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored