what next?

turbojo · 10-15-2001, 08:19 PM

i'm posting this for a friend of mine who has a 93 notchback. he wanted me to ask what you guys thought he should do next to his car. he's already got the following: moroso cold air; c&l 76mm MAF housing w/ stock sensor; motorsport pullies; motorsport 9mm wires; BBK shorty headers; a generic off-road h-pipe; flowmaster 2 1/4" cat-back; king cobra clutch; B&M shifter; 3.73 gears; motorsport sub-frame connectors; nitto drag radials.

------------------

[This message has been edited by turbojo (edited 10-15-2001).]

Tony Frank · 10-15-2001, 09:47 PM

HEADS

------------------
1985 Mustang GT 15,000 original miles, cam, intake, headers, carb, windage tray, you know the goodies

turbojo · 10-16-2001, 06:02 PM

thats what i told him. i said he needed to get some AFR's but he's kinda on a budget. what are some of his options? what about an intake?

fiveohpatrol · 10-17-2001, 05:49 PM

an intake will help a little bit on a stock head/cammed engine, but not enough to justify the $400+

i'd first tell him to get rid of the 2 1/4" catback and step up to a 2.5"

what about some 1.7RR's along with some new valve springs (depending on his mileage)
i've heard the 1.7 rockers wont help and can actually hurt if you have worn/ old springs, which I do and that probably explains why i saw no gain when i put them on

if he's on a budget tell him to get some GT40P heads ($99 bare each), port them a little and your ready to go, he'll also need a P specific header for these though because of spark plug angle i think?

THEN he can get the intake and a cam

many people have gotten great power out of the P heads, mid 12's is farily easily obtainable with them
good luck

------------------
88 Notch, B&M Ripper, 3.73's, Ported E7's, Explorer int. w/ ported lower, pulleys, 1.7RR's, BBK headers, off-road H-pipe, flowmasters, subframes, 65mm TB, March ram air ,MSD coil, U/L control arms, 155lph f/p, Crane Adj.FPR, Nitto drag radials, best 1/4--> 13.76@101.4 on a 2.17 60ft

smokedchevy · 10-18-2001, 03:01 AM

150 shot of the "juice".

------------------
92 GT, 4:10 gears, centerforce clutch, 6# powerdyne blower, bbk h-pipe, flowmasters

Chevyguy · 10-18-2001, 09:23 AM

I'll vote for the Juice too, Even if he replaces the exhaust with new 2.5" system probably not a big difference for the buck like the NOS would.

------------------
Frank W 90 5.0 LX Notch MAC 2.5"cat bk FMS alu ds, MSD coil, MAC shifter 2.73 gears user site
88 Notch 2.3L FOR SALE! My two Notchbacks
74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 now 454 soon My web site

turbojo · 10-18-2001, 05:12 PM

thanks guys! where could we pick up tose bare castings? when i asked about the intake i meant after the heads what would be the best bang for the buck intake? after we clean up the new heads what hardware should we use? rockers, valves, etc.? i'm going to tell him to go ahead and spring for a cam while we got all this apart. any suggestions? this is his daily driver so it needs to be fairly tame. any help is greatly appriciated.

------------------
1987 Buick Grand National
low-optioned factory lightweight
stock with 42k miles

10-15-2001, 08:19 PM	#1
turbojo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: falls church, va USA Posts: 4	what next? i'm posting this for a friend of mine who has a 93 notchback. he wanted me to ask what you guys thought he should do next to his car. he's already got the following: moroso cold air; c&l 76mm MAF housing w/ stock sensor; motorsport pullies; motorsport 9mm wires; BBK shorty headers; a generic off-road h-pipe; flowmaster 2 1/4" cat-back; king cobra clutch; B&M shifter; 3.73 gears; motorsport sub-frame connectors; nitto drag radials. ------------------ [This message has been edited by turbojo (edited 10-15-2001).]

10-15-2001, 09:47 PM	#2
Tony Frank Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brooklyn originally, but Grand Rapids now Posts: 309	HEADS ------------------ 1985 Mustang GT 15,000 original miles, cam, intake, headers, carb, windage tray, you know the goodies

10-16-2001, 06:02 PM	#3
turbojo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: falls church, va USA Posts: 4	thats what i told him. i said he needed to get some AFR's but he's kinda on a budget. what are some of his options? what about an intake?

10-17-2001, 05:49 PM	#4
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	an intake will help a little bit on a stock head/cammed engine, but not enough to justify the $400+ i'd first tell him to get rid of the 2 1/4" catback and step up to a 2.5" what about some 1.7RR's along with some new valve springs (depending on his mileage) i've heard the 1.7 rockers wont help and can actually hurt if you have worn/ old springs, which I do and that probably explains why i saw no gain when i put them on if he's on a budget tell him to get some GT40P heads ($99 bare each), port them a little and your ready to go, he'll also need a P specific header for these though because of spark plug angle i think? THEN he can get the intake and a cam many people have gotten great power out of the P heads, mid 12's is farily easily obtainable with them good luck ------------------ 88 Notch, B&M Ripper, 3.73's, Ported E7's, Explorer int. w/ ported lower, pulleys, 1.7RR's, BBK headers, off-road H-pipe, flowmasters, subframes, 65mm TB, March ram air ,MSD coil, U/L control arms, 155lph f/p, Crane Adj.FPR, Nitto drag radials, best 1/4--> 13.76@101.4 on a 2.17 60ft

10-18-2001, 03:01 AM	#5
smokedchevy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: ventura,CA Posts: 438	150 shot of the "juice". ------------------ 92 GT, 4:10 gears, centerforce clutch, 6# powerdyne blower, bbk h-pipe, flowmasters

10-18-2001, 09:23 AM	#6
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	I'll vote for the Juice too, Even if he replaces the exhaust with new 2.5" system probably not a big difference for the buck like the NOS would. ------------------ Frank W 90 5.0 LX Notch MAC 2.5"cat bk FMS alu ds, MSD coil, MAC shifter 2.73 gears user site 88 Notch 2.3L FOR SALE! My two Notchbacks 74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 now 454 soon My web site

10-18-2001, 05:12 PM	#7
turbojo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: falls church, va USA Posts: 4	thanks guys! where could we pick up tose bare castings? when i asked about the intake i meant after the heads what would be the best bang for the buck intake? after we clean up the new heads what hardware should we use? rockers, valves, etc.? i'm going to tell him to go ahead and spring for a cam while we got all this apart. any suggestions? this is his daily driver so it needs to be fairly tame. any help is greatly appriciated. ------------------ 1987 Buick Grand National low-optioned factory lightweight stock with 42k miles